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Would you like to see Melo retire a Nugget? 

Post#1 » by D.Brasco » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:42 am

Is it time for him to come home? I believe he's a on a min contract would there be much to lose compared to what he can bring in with his place in team history?
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Post#2 » by Coeur » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:56 am

Yes. I would love to see him play a positive role for a few years here. With jokic and Murray specifically he could fit it.
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Post#3 » by THE J0KER » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:55 am

Nuggets and Melo part ways in an ugly way, but he is still Denver biggest XXI century legend, and he is an SF, exactly the spot we need the most at the moment... so I see other reason why that is maybe not the best idea. There are several reports from Oklahoma last season, and Houston at the start of this season that he has a negative impact on the team chemistry in both cases. Experienced veterans are more than welcomed to be part of this so young Denver team, and I'm sure Melo wouldn't do anything intentionally to ruin his Nuggets legacy after eventual comeback. But is he capable to do it now, and control his frustration and ego, when he is a not elite player anymore, especially with control-freak coach like Malone is? I can't predict Melo reaction if Malone puts him in a similar position as he did with Faried last season which didnt get a fair chance even when Millsap, Plumlee, Juancho, and Arthur was all injured in the same moment. Nobody knows why he ignored Juancho whole last season, and in the October of this, despite Barton was already injured during 2nd game. Or today's pathetic "blame-game" reaction to put Murray on the bench. Melo problems with Houston starts with Rockets decision to start with him from the bench. Melo would play from the bench, of course, the conflict can start if Malone starts to give him under 10 minutes, or whatever. So, is it a worthy a risk?
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Post#4 » by Popovich » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:21 am

I would , It would be the perfect end of successful career. Also I would like that he takes the ring this season, bricks are starting to fall apart in GSW so he might have a chance . Yeah , coming back to Nuggets next season would be the perfect closing of the circle.
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Post#5 » by skywalker33 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:36 am

I’m in the NO column, Mr LaLa let his wife make the decision to leave DEN, didn’t have any balls to say otherwise. After the trade he was on a stripped down team that couldn’t win, left a good situation for a bad one. Poor defender, poor decision maker that didn’t want to embrace the Nuggets nor the city of Denver. Leave him to his own means
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Post#6 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:49 am

Not interested . He's more of a PF these days and he's a ball-stopper. On the other hand, he can score.

I'll give him a pass on his attitude, hoping it's improved.

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Post#7 » by RRFB » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:06 am

Not even a little bit. I don't think the bridge Melo burned on his way out of here has been repaired in the slightest, and he'd be a terrible fit in the "Jokic ball" offense.

He dug his grave when he forced his way to the Knicks. I'm happy to watch him lie in it from a distance.
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Post#8 » by psimanic1 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:51 am

Give him a 10 day contract :nod: :nod:
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Post#9 » by MidMountain » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:46 pm

Absolutely not! Demanding a trade is akin to giving the team the finger. I'd want nothing to do with him even if he wasn't washed up.
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Post#10 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:49 pm

psimanic1 wrote:Give him a 10 day contract :nod: :nod:

:lol: Can we sign him to a two-way?
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Post#11 » by Lala870 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:08 pm

After reading some old articles about melos wedding and his relation with the Kroenkes doubtful this happens.

Looks like he's also still using leon rose as his agent
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Post#12 » by skywalker33 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:29 pm

psimanic1 wrote:Give him a 10 day contract :nod: :nod:


Why, when we'd have to cut someone who WANTS to be on this team and deserves it ???
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Post#13 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:35 pm

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psimanic1 wrote:Give him a 10 day contract :nod: :nod:

Why, when we'd have to cut someone who WANTS to be on this team and deserves it ???

and that, Mr. Sky, is the biggest argument against bringing him here --- who would we want to sacrifice? He's not worth that cost!
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Post#14 » by TunaFish » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:54 am

No Melo. The way he forced a trade out of Denver is not something easily forgotten.
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Post#15 » by Maf » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:48 am

HELL NO!
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Post#16 » by U hova » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:00 pm

Melo forcing his way out gave us the foundation for starting over, and his 2014 Free Agency helped us get Gary Harris (The Bulls were shedding the salary of 2 draft picks so they can free room for Melo).

Also don't kid yourselves all of you have wanted Craig out of the rotation since day 1.
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Post#17 » by skywalker33 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:08 pm

U hova wrote:Melo forcing his way out gave us the foundation for starting over, and his 2014 Free Agency helped us get Gary Harris (The Bulls were shedding the salary of 2 draft picks so they can free room for Melo).

Also don't kid yourselves all of you have wanted Craig out of the rotation since day 1.


Melo tore down a WCF's team, however you want to spin it, that part is true. Whatever gets you to sleep at night.
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Post#18 » by NuggetsWY » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:29 pm

U hova wrote:Melo forcing his way out gave us the foundation for starting over, and his 2014 Free Agency helped us get Gary Harris (The Bulls were shedding the salary of 2 draft picks so they can free room for Melo).

Also don't kid yourselves all of you have wanted Craig out of the rotation since day 1.

Some of us have wanted Craig starting this year. He's a better fit next to Jokic at least to some degree. If he & Harris & Murray are cutting and moving, he's a great finisher at the basket. I don't think he worked out this year simply because the Nuggets aren't moving that much.

Let's face it, that slot doesn't need a scorer on this team (although we won't object to a scorer there). Hernangomez is getting the shot now because he can space the floor better than Craig and we really need that right now. IMO Craig's similar to JaKarr Sampson or Axel Toupane - Malone liked them in 2015-16 but they didn't stick around.

Look at our roster and ask who is most expendable. Craig has to make the short list but he's probably not going to be the first to go. I'd love him coming off the bench, especially against some of the bigger SFs in the league.
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Post#19 » by THE J0KER » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:16 pm

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U hova wrote:Melo forcing his way out gave us the foundation for starting over, and his 2014 Free Agency helped us get Gary Harris (The Bulls were shedding the salary of 2 draft picks so they can free room for Melo).

Also don't kid yourselves all of you have wanted Craig out of the rotation since day 1.

Some of us have wanted Craig starting this year. He's a better fit next to Jokic at least to some degree. If he & Harris & Murray are cutting and moving, he's a great finisher at the basket. I don't think he worked out this year simply because the Nuggets aren't moving that much.

Let's face it, that slot doesn't need a scorer on this team (although we won't object to a scorer there). Hernangomez is getting the shot now because he can space the floor better than Craig and we really need that right now. IMO Craig's similar to JaKarr Sampson or Axel Toupane - Malone liked them in 2015-16 but they didn't stick around.

Look at our roster and ask who is most expendable. Craig has to make the short list but he's probably not going to be the first to go. I'd love him coming off the bench, especially against some of the bigger SFs in the league.

There is a simple explanation why Craig looked (with a reason) more useful last season. When Harris-Millsap-Jokic all three are healthy, Denver doesn't need at all to sacrifice one roster spot to some defensive specialist. But last season, Millsap missed about 45 games, and at some point when he is back, Harris missed about 15 too. Also, our 2017-18 SF starter option with 32mpg was Willson Chandler which offensively has a very silent season last year, so no significant drop of our offense when Craig subs him. But this season so far Craig case is different because Harris-Millsap-Jokic is healthy so far all-three so we don't need his defense so much, and offensively impact difference between Barton/Craig or Juancho/Craig is more visible for sure than Chandler/Craig. That said, with 4/2 contract he is still a very useful asset, but should be used in 2nd unit only, particularly when Harris or Millsap is on the bench.

And talking about Melo=>Denver, I know this is going to be too emotional, so I will try once again to rationalize that subject. Look at Carter=>Toronto transfer which is never happening. Vince Carter is Toronto legend which obviously wanted to retire there, and in this case, no bad blood compared to Anthony/Nuggets case. But Toronto doesn't need right now player of Carter profile at all even if he willing to play for a veteran minimum deal. End of story.
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Post#20 » by The Rebel » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:11 am

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U hova wrote:Melo forcing his way out gave us the foundation for starting over, and his 2014 Free Agency helped us get Gary Harris (The Bulls were shedding the salary of 2 draft picks so they can free room for Melo).

Also don't kid yourselves all of you have wanted Craig out of the rotation since day 1.

Some of us have wanted Craig starting this year. He's a better fit next to Jokic at least to some degree. If he & Harris & Murray are cutting and moving, he's a great finisher at the basket. I don't think he worked out this year simply because the Nuggets aren't moving that much.

Let's face it, that slot doesn't need a scorer on this team (although we won't object to a scorer there). Hernangomez is getting the shot now because he can space the floor better than Craig and we really need that right now. IMO Craig's similar to JaKarr Sampson or Axel Toupane - Malone liked them in 2015-16 but they didn't stick around.

Look at our roster and ask who is most expendable. Craig has to make the short list but he's probably not going to be the first to go. I'd love him coming off the bench, especially against some of the bigger SFs in the league.

There is a simple explanation why Craig looked (with a reason) more useful last season. When Harris-Millsap-Jokic all three are healthy, Denver doesn't need at all to sacrifice one roster spot to some defensive specialist. But last season, Millsap missed about 45 games, and at some point when he is back, Harris missed about 15 too. Also, our 2017-18 SF starter option with 32mpg was Willson Chandler which offensively has a very silent season last year, so no significant drop of our offense when Craig subs him. But this season so far Craig case is different because Harris-Millsap-Jokic is healthy so far all-three so we don't need his defense so much, and offensively impact difference between Barton/Craig or Juancho/Craig is more visible for sure than Chandler/Craig. That said, with 4/2 contract he is still a very useful asset, but should be used in 2nd unit only, particularly when Harris or Millsap is on the bench.


If you think about it, Chandler or Lyles was usually at PF last year when Craig was on the court, they are both respected as shooters whether they deserve it or not. Millsap is not respected as a spot up shooter so that allowed 2 guys to sag off their guys and wait in the paint. I don't think anybody minds Craig off the bench but to ignore how bad the offense was with Craig starting or trying to blame fans for it not working out is crazy.
THE J0KER wrote:And talking about Melo=>Denver, I know this is going to be too emotional, so I will try once again to rationalize that subject. Look at Carter=>Toronto transfer which is never happening. Vince Carter is Toronto legend which obviously wanted to retire there, and in this case, no bad blood compared to Anthony/Nuggets case. But Toronto doesn't need right now player of Carter profile at all even if he willing to play for a veteran minimum deal. End of story.


Carter and Toronto didn't have bad blood? What Carter pulled to get out of Toronto was arguably the worst example of a star forcing his way out of a franchise in the last 30 years. He openly quit on his team, openly talked about wanting traded, had a fist fight with his head coach in the lockerroom, and reportedly told opponents plays on the court. Raptors fans may have forgiven him, but I doubt that any of the management or ownership (who I believe are the same owners) has forgotten what he pulled. If Melo would have pulled that crap than I doubt there would be a single supporter of his among Nuggets fans.


I think if Melo wanted to sign a 1 day deal this summer so that he could retire a Nuggets than that is fine, but to cut anybody off this team to clear room so Melo can have a retirement tour is a waste of time and cap space. I have long been a supporter of Melo and apprecaited the way that he let the front office know he was leaving and did his best not to cause drama and to still play hard while waiting to be moved. Also it does not hurt that even today a lot of this roster has come directly and indirectly from the trade.

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