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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#221 » by theman » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:54 pm

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Mickey8 wrote:Bol Bol tooth pick legs are not build for the NBA , I just can't picture him being successful in the NBA, to me he's just the attraction because of the height and because he can do some things from time to time, hitting threes , execute a nice pass , I don't see at what position on the floor he can play successfully with continuity , he look clueless on the floor in the organized set up.

I'm not convinced he can be a 30 mpg starter, but if he can become an effective 20 mpg bench player; I'd be happy. {What's effective? 20 minutes with 10 pts and 5 rebounds and 1 block but most important would be learning to be effective on defense. He looks like his best defense is playing a zone in the paint, and that won't do it.}


20 minutes a night is probably about right. But is per 36 is incredible. He is at 36 point per 36 minutes over the last three games. But that is just fun with statistics.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#222 » by THE J0KER » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:33 pm

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Mickey8 wrote:Bol Bol tooth pick legs are not build for the NBA , I just can't picture him being successful in the NBA, to me he's just the attraction because of the height and because he can do some things from time to time, hitting threes , execute a nice pass , I don't see at what position on the floor he can play successfully with continuity , he look clueless on the floor in the organized set up.

I'm not convinced he can be a 30 mpg starter, but if he can become an effective 20 mpg bench player; I'd be happy. {What's effective? 20 minutes with 10 pts and 5 rebounds and 1 block but most important would be learning to be effective on defense. He looks like his best defense is playing a zone in the paint, and that won't do it.}


20 minutes a night is probably about right. But is per 36 is incredible. He is at 36 point per 36 minutes over the last three games. But that is just fun with statistics.

Another very tall player, Boban Marjanovic, is an NBA king of garbage time production, so several seasons his per-36 stats are around monster 25-15 double-double. Unfortunately, better opponent players from starting lineup can effectively use his weaknesses, so he was never able to translate his garbage time numbers into a "real" competitive game.

But this is a great improvement and sign for Bol Bol because once he realizes no serious playing time for him this season, his body language on the court becomes painful to watch. But lately, he obviously started to care about every minute he gets! A very positive sign IMO, love him or hate but Porzingis works for Dallas. Bol Bol is maybe not that good, but he is a similar type of player.
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Post#223 » by DaFan334 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:47 am

It's interesting to hear rumors that we were more willing to give up RJ than we were Bol. WHo knows if that was a smoke screen, but if not, I am curious to see what the Nuggets actually think they can get out of Bol's development.
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Post#224 » by leo7 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:27 pm

Why is he not playing in the g league right now? That would be better for his development than sitting on the bench all season.
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Post#225 » by skywalker33 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:53 pm

leo7 wrote:Why is he not playing in the g league right now? That would be better for his development than sitting on the bench all season.


Who are you going to play him in front of when we're in a playoff race ??
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Post#226 » by Richard Miller » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:25 pm

DaFan334 wrote:It's interesting to hear rumors that we were more willing to give up RJ than we were Bol. WHo knows if that was a smoke screen, but if not, I am curious to see what the Nuggets actually think they can get out of Bol's development.


I liked RJ a lot, but if Bol ever gets his s**t together, he'll be on another planet
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Post#227 » by skywalker33 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:44 pm

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DaFan334 wrote:It's interesting to hear rumors that we were more willing to give up RJ than we were Bol. WHo knows if that was a smoke screen, but if not, I am curious to see what the Nuggets actually think they can get out of Bol's development.


I liked RJ a lot, but if Bol ever gets his s**t together, he'll be on another planet



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Post#228 » by leo7 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:02 pm

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leo7 wrote:Why is he not playing in the g league right now? That would be better for his development than sitting on the bench all season.


Who are you going to play him in front of when we're in a playoff race ??


No one until he improves. That's why he needs to be in the g league.
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Post#229 » by skywalker33 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:10 pm

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leo7 wrote:Why is he not playing in the g league right now? That would be better for his development than sitting on the bench all season.


Who are you going to play him in front of when we're in a playoff race ??


No one until he improves. That's why he needs to be in the g league.



Denver does not have a G-league team so putting him on another's G-team may not be as advantageous since they probably would not play him in the same offense/scheme that Denver does, thus we'd have to re-rain him with better habits more appropriate to our schemes.
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Post#230 » by leo7 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:40 am

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Who are you going to play him in front of when we're in a playoff race ??


No one until he improves. That's why he needs to be in the g league.



Denver does not have a G-league team so putting him on another's G-team may not be as advantageous since they probably would not play him in the same offense/scheme that Denver does, thus we'd have to re-rain him with better habits more appropriate to our schemes.


You're right I forgot about that. I guess it will be a few years before he develops into a rotational player for Denver. They're going to be a good playoff team for a long time.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#231 » by NuggetsWY » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:00 am

leo7 wrote:
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leo7 wrote:No one until he improves. That's why he needs to be in the g league.


Denver does not have a G-league team so putting him on another's G-team may not be as advantageous since they probably would not play him in the same offense/scheme that Denver does, thus we'd have to re-rain him with better habits more appropriate to our schemes.


You're right I forgot about that. I guess it will be a few years before he develops into a rotational player for Denver. They're going to be a good playoff team for a long time.

Just wondering:
1. Is our ownership too cheap to pay for a G-League team?
2. Does our ownership and/or front office believe they have no value. That's silly since the vast majority believe they have value.
3. ... ... uh, ... ... um ... ... see the first two possibilities
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Post#232 » by Richard Miller » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:26 am

NuggetsWY wrote:1. Is our ownership too cheap to pay for a G-League team?
2. Does our ownership and/or front office believe they have no value. That's silly since the vast majority believe they have value.
3. ... ... uh, ... ... um ... ... see the first two possibilities


I guess you missed this then:

The Denver Nuggets will add their first official NBA G League affiliate team next season, partnering with the Grand Rapids Drive in a deal that won’t become official until the end of the 2020-21 season.
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Post#233 » by The Rebel » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:58 am

DaFan334 wrote:It's interesting to hear rumors that we were more willing to give up RJ than we were Bol. WHo knows if that was a smoke screen, but if not, I am curious to see what the Nuggets actually think they can get out of Bol's development.


While I saw 1 rumor that the Nuggets would prefer to keep Bol I saw plenty of rumors for more than a week that they were shopping Bol. To me with the way the deal was rumored even the mornign before it got done the reports were saying that the Magic wants Barton and RJ while the Nuggets were wanting to send Harris and Bol.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#234 » by NuggetsWY » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:57 am

Richard Miller wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:1. Is our ownership too cheap to pay for a G-League team?
2. Does our ownership and/or front office believe they have no value. That's silly since the vast majority believe they have value.
3. ... ... uh, ... ... um ... ... see the first two possibilities


I guess you missed this then:

The Denver Nuggets will add their first official NBA G League affiliate team next season, partnering with the Grand Rapids Drive in a deal that won’t become official until the end of the 2020-21 season.

Three years ago, we were teased with a similar press release.
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Post#235 » by Manolito » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:27 am

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DaFan334 wrote:It's interesting to hear rumors that we were more willing to give up RJ than we were Bol. WHo knows if that was a smoke screen, but if not, I am curious to see what the Nuggets actually think they can get out of Bol's development.


While I saw 1 rumor that the Nuggets would prefer to keep Bol I saw plenty of rumors for more than a week that they were shopping Bol. To me with the way the deal was rumored even the mornign before it got done the reports were saying that the Magic wants Barton and RJ while the Nuggets were wanting to send Harris and Bol.
ORL was really interested in Hampton, he was a key part of the trade.

Bol Bol has more hype in Twitter than among Front offices

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Post#236 » by skywalker33 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:31 pm

Manolito wrote:Bol Bol has more hype in Twitter than among Front offices


Well, to be fair, there are MILLIONS of Twitter acct while there are only 30 NBA Front Officesv :wink:
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