2019 mid-level exception (MLE) and veteran minimum options

[THE J0KER]

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Korver as experienced SF 3pt specialist would be very useful for Denver, and he obviously wants to play last years of his career in contender team. But we don't care.

BTW, talking about MLE role players, Markieff Morris and Boban Marjanovic signed 7/2 type of deals both. Morris would be interesting PF backup, and with Marjanovic we definitely can trade expiring Plumlee without fear.

[skywalker33]

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Korver as experienced SF 3pt specialist would be very useful for Denver, and he obviously wants to play last years of his career in contender team. But we don't care.

BTW, talking about MLE role players, Markieff Morris and Boban Marjanovic signed 7/2 type of deals both. Morris would be interesting PF backup, and with Marjanovic we definitely can trade expiring Plumlee without fear.

So how do you know that, who's your FO insider ???

[The Rebel]

We have MPJ, Hernangomez, Craig, Barton, and Beasley at SF who are all fighting for minutes

At PF we have Millsap, Vanderbilt, Plumlee, Bol Bol, Hernangomez, and likely Cancar fighting for minutes.

At Center we have Jokic, Plumee, Welsh, and Bol Bol

PG we have Murray, Morris, and Goodwin

SG we have Harris, Barton, Beasley, and Craig all fighting for minutes.



Anybody out there and available is not going to be better than what we have right now at any position outside of 3rd PG, you are getting placeholders at this point.


We have a ton of young forwards, too many in my mind, and at this point it is time to find out what we have. Guys like Markieff Morris, Mudiay, hell even Cousins or Boban do nothing for this team. We have a solid backup C, Boban was on the market due to his lack of defense, and nobody that watched Cousins in the finals can believe that he can guard a chair at this point. I would much rather give the young guys those minutes, this team was at it's best in November through mid January last year, when the young guys were the only ones healthy. Why not see if they can play like that with minutes for the full season?

Outside of upgrading or just straight dumping Barton, I am fine as the team currently stands.

[TunaFish]

Can't argue with that.

[THE J0KER]

We have MPJ, Hernangomez, Craig, Barton, and Beasley at SF who are all fighting for minutes
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As one of the youngest teams in the league, we really lack some experience in general, better 3pt shooting too, and Barton and Beasley are undersized vs many opponents, better to be used as SG. All these facts are in favor to sign someone like 3pt legend Kyle Korver. Talking about the advantages of the eventual signing of someone like Boban Marjanovic for just 3.5M I was focused on the bigger picture with trading without fear our other backup center Plumlee which 14M salary would be redirected on some more useful forward, which can be even elite ones if we dump Barton too.

On long terms, our biggest problem will be PF not SF, with MPJ rising and Millsap expiring (or aging, if re-sign), but this season, SF is still our by far biggest problem again, like every season since Galinnari is gone. We have all big expectations from Porter, and with a reason, but as I repeat it many times, don't expect a miracle from any small forward in his rookie season. Only LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, Wiggins, and Tatum has starters level worthy numbers in the past 25 years out of all SF rookies, and even they underperformed on some way, for example, LBJ and KD have miserable TS% around 50% for their around TS%60% standards in the rest of the career. Small forward is definitely the last spot where you should expect a miracle from a rookie in playoff level team. I have some hopes from cases of Embiid, Simmons, Griffin, which was redshirted too first season working with the team on the practice court, which all three played their rookie season since start like they are sophomores already not rookies. But I don't know how much MPJ case is comparable with these three knowing he is not in the position practicing too much 5-on-5 last season due to recovery, and he missed his NCAA career too, unlike Griffin-Embiid-Simmons with their notable college years.

[Coeur]

We have MPJ, Hernangomez, Craig, Barton, and Beasley at SF who are all fighting for minutes
...

As one of the youngest teams in the league, we really lack some experience in general, better 3pt shooting too, and Barton and Beasley are undersized vs many opponents, better to be used as SG. All these facts are in favor to sign someone like 3pt legend Kyle Korver. Talking about the advantages of the eventual signing of someone like Boban Marjanovic for just 3.5M I was focused on the bigger picture with trading without fear our other backup center Plumlee which 14M salary would be redirected on some more useful forward, which can be even elite ones if we dump Barton too.

On long terms, our biggest problem will be PF not SF, with MPJ rising and Millsap expiring (or aging, if re-sign), but this season, SF is still our by far biggest problem again, like every season since Galinnari is gone. We have all big expectations from Porter, and with a reason, but as I repeat it many times, don't expect a miracle from any small forward in his rookie season. Only LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, Wiggins, and Tatum has starters level worthy numbers in the past 25 years out of all SF rookies, and even they underperformed on some way, for example, LBJ and KD have miserable TS% around 50% for their around TS%60% standards in the rest of the career. Small forward is definitely the last spot where you should expect a miracle from a rookie in playoff level team. I have some hopes from cases of Embiid, Simmons, Griffin, which was redshirted too first season working with the team on the practice court, which all three played their rookie season since start like they are sophomores already not rookies. But I don't know how much MPJ case is comparable with these three knowing he is not in the position practicing too much 5-on-5 last season due to recovery, and he missed his NCAA career too, unlike Griffin-Embiid-Simmons with their notable college years.

A legit backup center was a good idea. Plumlee is an untouchable in a trade until another legit Center is on the roster.


Also the shooter idea is exactly what should be addressed. I loved Layman from Portland And didn’t like Wolves grabbing him at like 3 per.


Obviously this is all about a big trade or 2. I like akings guys

[The Rebel]

We have MPJ, Hernangomez, Craig, Barton, and Beasley at SF who are all fighting for minutes
...

As one of the youngest teams in the league, we really lack some experience in general, better 3pt shooting too, and Barton and Beasley are undersized vs many opponents, better to be used as SG. All these facts are in favor to sign someone like 3pt legend Kyle Korver. Talking about the advantages of the eventual signing of someone like Boban Marjanovic for just 3.5M I was focused on the bigger picture with trading without fear our other backup center Plumlee which 14M salary would be redirected on some more useful forward, which can be even elite ones if we dump Barton too.

On long terms, our biggest problem will be PF not SF, with MPJ rising and Millsap expiring (or aging, if re-sign), but this season, SF is still our by far biggest problem again, like every season since Galinnari is gone. We have all big expectations from Porter, and with a reason, but as I repeat it many times, don't expect a miracle from any small forward in his rookie season. Only LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, Wiggins, and Tatum has starters level worthy numbers in the past 25 years out of all SF rookies, and even they underperformed on some way, for example, LBJ and KD have miserable TS% around 50% for their around TS%60% standards in the rest of the career. Small forward is definitely the last spot where you should expect a miracle from a rookie in playoff level team. I have some hopes from cases of Embiid, Simmons, Griffin, which was redshirted too first season working with the team on the practice court, which all three played their rookie season since start like they are sophomores already not rookies. But I don't know how much MPJ case is comparable with these three knowing he is not in the position practicing too much 5-on-5 last season due to recovery, and he missed his NCAA career too, unlike Griffin-Embiid-Simmons with their notable college years.

The fact of the matter is that we do not know whether we need a SF or a PF in the future, we have 5 young forwards that due to various reasons have not had a chance to show what they can do on the court.

IF you see a perfect fit that we can get without killing our roster and that wants to be hear than I am all ears, until than I am happy to see what we can do as is.

[THE J0KER]

If we going to dump expiring $14M Plumlee contract, as a backup center solution it may be interesting to take for veteran minimum some of remaining FA former all-star centers Joakim Noah, Pau Gasol, or Tyson Chandler. They will play just about 10-15 mpg, but their experience can be very useful to our young players which have only Millsap to get some good advice right now.

[Coeur]

If we going to dump expiring $14M Plumlee contract, as a backup center solution it may be interesting to take for veteran minimum some of remaining FA former all-star centers Joakim Noah, Pau Gasol, or Tyson Chandler. They will play just about 10-15 mpg, but their experience can be very useful to our young players which have only Millsap to get some good advice right now.

I don’t ever understand the idea that plumlee should be dumped but I think you are spot on knowing that a backup C would be a huge hole then. And that their is potential to grab a backup C w this money that doesn’t seem to afford any other position group?