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[Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension

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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#41 » by The Rebel » Fri Jul 5, 2019 8:28 pm

CanadaUprise wrote:You guys realize that Murray plays out of position on the nuggets right. He's a pure SG being forced to play PG because of Jokic which hurts his game a lot.


Last I checked Murray played PG in high school, for the Canadian national team, and for the Nuggets, with his only time at SG being at Kentucky when he was in the backcourt with 5'8" Tyler Ullis. So I guess you better let the staff with the Nuggets and the Canadian national team, as well as Jamal Murray and his father know that he is playing the wrong position, as you are obviously more qualified to make that decision than all of them.

As for Jokic making the game harder for Murray, even saying that just shows how low of a basketball iq you have. There is no legitimate argument that Jokic makes the game harder for anybody that has a clue how to play basketball. Jokic changes his own game to fit what the team needs at any given moment, and it is obvious to anybody that has played the game how much easier that makes it for everybody.

Now I will say that Jokic hurts Murray's ability to put up assist stats, but who cares about stats? Murray, Jokic, Harris, and the rest of the team as well as most of us fans do not give a crap about the stats we just want to win.
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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#42 » by TunaFish » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:44 pm

If I am understanding this 538 projection (WAR), Murray went from 1.7 to 4.7 in his last season. That's right up there with Ray Allen and Tony Parker.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/jamal-murray/

They also marked him down for his height which seems strange for 6'4" point guard.
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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#43 » by The Rebel » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:20 pm

TunaFish wrote:If I am understanding this 538 projection (WAR), Murray went from 1.7 to 4.7 in his last season. That's right up there with Ray Allen and Tony Parker.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/jamal-murray/

They also marked him down for his height which seems strange for 6'4" point guard.


The interesting thing to me is that all the comparisons were either in the league longer and/or older than Murray with the comparisons.

I also do not like that they project Murray to only get slightly better on offense and regress on defense, I think as Murray fills out his body more he will get better on defense, and I doubt his offense gets worse considering his growth last year.

While his shooting percentages declined last year, I thought he got much better at handling hard double teams, controlling the tempo when he had the ball, and picking his spots. HE also obviously got better playing off of Jokic. Overall I think his stats improve just by having Harris healthy and a decent SF on the floor.
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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#44 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Aug 2, 2019 7:47 pm

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Post#45 » by Coeur » Sat Aug 3, 2019 2:11 am

Murray is going to be an all star. This season

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