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[Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension

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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#61 » by SkillzFromThe6 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:52 pm

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I'm probably in the minority here but I've noticed it since last season that Jamal Murray doesn't play well with Will Barton. I'm not exactly sure why (could be usage?) but I'd be surprised if he got a 40 point game this year.

His top 2 scoring performances this year:

27 points 8/19 40min vs Phoenix Suns W by 1
39 points 14/24 31min vs Memphis Grizzlies W by 17

Will Barton those 2 games (also lowest minutes of season):
5 points 1/6 20min vs Phoenix Suns
6 points 2/6 23min vs Memphis Grizzlies

Last year Jamal Murray scored 30+ 5 times when Will Barton went down but only twice when he came back.

This is just extra stats to prove my point that I don't see Jamal Murray taking a leap with Will's heavy minutes.

Mind you, I haven't been a Will Barton fan since he's gotten here so take this as you so please. Lol.


Ah, haven't posted a while on here... I hate to bring a negative to the conversation, but what I said beginning of the season still holds true.
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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#62 » by skywalker33 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 12:25 am

SkillzFromThe6 wrote:
SkillzFromThe6 wrote:
I'm probably in the minority here but I've noticed it since last season that Jamal Murray doesn't play well with Will Barton. I'm not exactly sure why (could be usage?) but I'd be surprised if he got a 40 point game this year.

His top 2 scoring performances this year:

27 points 8/19 40min vs Phoenix Suns W by 1
39 points 14/24 31min vs Memphis Grizzlies W by 17

Will Barton those 2 games (also lowest minutes of season):
5 points 1/6 20min vs Phoenix Suns
6 points 2/6 23min vs Memphis Grizzlies

Last year Jamal Murray scored 30+ 5 times when Will Barton went down but only twice when he came back.

This is just extra stats to prove my point that I don't see Jamal Murray taking a leap with Will's heavy minutes.

Mind you, I haven't been a Will Barton fan since he's gotten here so take this as you so please. Lol.


Ah, haven't posted a while on here... I hate to bring a negative to the conversation, but what I said beginning of the season still holds true.


While it's hard to not notice how Murray has developed sans Barton, however, I don't agree that there is any type of chemistry issue between the two and I believe Murray would've blown up here anyway.

It doesn't bode well for Barton that he's doing it sans Will on the court, makes him look very expendable (Malone and TC's problem now).
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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#63 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Tue Sep 1, 2020 12:37 am

looks like this is working out after all lol.

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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#64 » by skywalker33 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 1:02 am

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:looks like this is working out after all lol.

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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#65 » by Mac1958 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:02 am

Yeah, I didn't like the deal. I didn't think he had any Alpha Dog in him.

Not feeling all that smart right now.

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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#66 » by The Rebel » Thu Sep 3, 2020 2:42 am

Murray is never going to put up gaudy stats for a season in our offense, it is designed for most plays to go to the open man through Jokic. Murray has developed into the guy who we should be going to when they shut down the lane and people are struggling to hit shots like much of the Jazz series. Barton has to move to the bench now, but I think with MPJ's shooting and Murray being the guy to take over when we get bogged down, we will win a lot of games. Murray's stats will come in the playoffs, and this year he has shown the ability to handle the playoff game while putting up huge stats.

I have always understood the reasoning behind giving him the max when they did, but imagine with this showing from Murray and Jokic and what kind of free agents we might have attracted? If MPJ can continue on his development path and Murray, Jokic, and MPJ all stay healthy than it does not matter.
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Re: [Shams] Murray agrees to 5/$170M extension 

Post#67 » by skywalker33 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:07 am

Murray has now played in three playoff series, all three have gone to 7 games. In the 3 series, we've played 5 do-or-die situations, losing only one of those, a game where Murray didn't play well. Even so, Jamal has improved his scoring in each series, from 19ppg to 31+ppg this year, and he's only 23yo. I do think Murray has to up his scoring a bit more in the regular season, 2-4 more ppg would not be hard for him IMO, puts him in the 21-23ppg average and into the superstar status and fear in opponents game plan.

MPJ already has the offense, the defense looks like it can develop, put them together and he can be a very potent 2nd or 3rd cog in our machine given some good health. Most prognosticators say we're a year or two out, hard to disagree but we're getting some great experience along the way. Keeping Barton on the bench with Bol and Dozier can create a potent 2nd unit while Grant, Harris, and perhaps a solid wing defender with our 1st this year to provide some solid D and that's a contender core for a few years anyway.
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