stoo wrote: Timmyyy wrote:
stoo wrote:grant doesn't need an excuse, he's been good. And way better on defense... and cheaper
murray also has Jokic, Grant has Hayes
problem with denver is that we limit our guys potential in order to extend them for cheap. I have no doubt that Grant was very aware of this
we are/were doing that with MPJ too, and i won't be surprised when he doesn't sign an extension
Ok reading this, I have the feeling my first understanding of your posts wasn't wrong at all. You seem to think that it was wrong letting Grant go despite of the money he received, that he plays good and that he should have been given the room to play like this on the Nuggets and that we actually would have been better with him playing like that.
- No offensively he isn't playing good. There is a difference between nice looking boxscore stats and true offensive impact.
- If we would have given him the opportunity to play like this on the Nuggets it would have taken the ball out of the hands of Joker and Murray which would have resulted in a waaaay worse offense. Because of that, the way he plays, as I already said, works only on a bad team like the Pistons. We couldn't and shouldn't have given him that freedom on offense.
Who is seriously watching Grants offense at the moment and thinks this is exactly what our team needs? The only part we are missing is his defense and his ability to hit threes and play off ball. So exactly what he did last year. Nothing we saw this year should change our perceiption of him.
And to the last thing you seem to believe, I personally don't think that Grant of last year is worth 20M and Grant of this year is only worth it to bad teams that do not know where to throw their money at.
my first post said somebody should apologize to Grant for questioning his inteligence for signing with Detroit, that's all
And I replied asking what you were inferring we apologize for, this is your response:
stoo wrote:people here who said that his bb iq is low because he wants to go to detroit. By staying with us, Malone would give him way less usage than he deserves, which would cost him 10s of millions of dollars in his career.
You also implied his role would be more limited by Malone. He was averaging 27mpg and everyone expected his role to increase as he was believed to become our new starting PF, isn't that a "bigger role" ? (referring to your comment below)
stoo wrote:you are probably young. He didn't go to have bettter statline, but to have bigger role that will be seen through statline that will ultimatelly get him money. Nba is bussines and players do it for money. There is a lot of sacrifices there. You can play pick up basketball in your yard for fun
I agree this is a business, he made what he believes was the best move for his career. While he is scoring more on his new team, when I look at his business opportunity, it is clouded by a couple of things. One he has two highly touted young players playing behind him in Sekou and Saddig, how long are they going to be sitting on the bench, that seems to be an open-ended question. Secondly, if it's about a financial decision, it's clear the money was EXACTLY the same, except he'd be 3rd or 4th option, he wanted to be "The Man,". My premise is exactly that ! He wanted to be "The Man". Back to the business part of it now. Leaving a team where he could've been a starter on a contending team for a starter on a lottery team just doesn't make sense unless it's purely ego related IMO. I'll question that all the time, as I am NOT A YOUNGSTER as you surmise, I've been watching basketball since the 70's, I go old-school, don't even try to be condescending with me, makes you look desperately bad.
I think in the long-run, a player (much like his uncle) will get more attention as a player with a ring (which he isn't going to get in DET) , more respect and possibly more endorsements playing on a championship-caliber team like this current Nuggets team.
If you want to say STUPID stuff, you may want to think before you put it in a post, it's hard to back-pedal.
When your days are grey, and your nights are black, it's just different shades of mundane !