Forwards: Millsap + ???

[NuggetsWY]

This is not asking who Malone might use; the question is: Who would you choose based on our current roster?

[The Rebel]

I think you have to let Beasley, Juancho, MPJ, Craig, and Barton all battle it out in camp/preseason, may the best man win.

[Coeur]

Right now with Millsap they’ll prob go Torrey Craig.

I think post trade they’ll want Grant and MPJ with a guy they trade for.

[skywalker33]

Right now with Millsap they’ll prob go Torrey Craig.

I think post trade they’ll want Grant and MPJ with a guy they trade for.

Putting TC into the starting lineup KILLS our spacing, can’t see it happening unless he has suddenly developed his shot.

I like to keep Grant at the PF and Beasley at the SG so my battle will be between Juancho and Barton

And I know I’ll regret asking this...”post trade” ????

[Coeur]

Right now with Millsap they’ll prob go Torrey Craig.

I think post trade they’ll want Grant and MPJ with a guy they trade for.

Putting TC into the starting lineup KILLS our spacing, can’t see it happening he has suddenly developed.

I like to keep Grant at the PF and Beasley at the SG so my battle will be between Juancho and Barton

And I know I’ll regret asking this...”post trade” ????

Starting Grant at pf and Beasley at 2??


Barton has to play minutes opposite of Jokic and Murray. Or w just one of them usually as the 3rd playmaker.


I don’t like Craig and Gary Harris starting together either but I think they’ll do it unless mpj is ready or Juancho shines early. They want that shooter in there of either guy I’d assume. But can’t quite yet.


Murray Fultz
Bogdanovic/Beasley
Wiggins/Craig/MpJ
Gordon/Grant/Vanderbilt Bolbol
Jokic/Bjelica/plumlee


Championship roster.

[NuggetsWY]

Murray Fultz
Bogdanovic/Beasley
Wiggins/Craig/MpJ
Gordon/Grant/Vanderbilt Bolbol
Jokic/Bjelica/plumlee

Championship roster.

"Championship roster"? Fultz is so questionable, most of the league doesn't want him. Bogdanovic is a nice offensive player but only average or a little worse on defense - not even close to Harris (whom you've obviously traded) and Beasley is better too. Bogdanovic is a nice bench player. Wiggins is so terrible nobody wants him, even those who hope they can tap into his talent are afraid of his massive contract. Gordan is virtually identically to Grant and not much of an upgrade and Vanderbilt is similar to them but could end up being the best of them. Bol is going to be G-League this year, so don't include him for much and why oh why would we want both Bjelica & Plumlee. I'm in favor of a third center but a young guy that can develop.

So you've traded:

Morris - Harris - Barton - Millsap - Hernangomez - Cancar -for- Fultz - Bogdanovic - Wiggins - Gordon - Bjelica

This makes me feel like you are a Lakers & Wolves fan trying to undermine Denver's future.

[skywalker33]

Starting Grant at pf and Beasley at 2??

Never said ANYTHING about Grant or Beasley starting (although I have pondered Beasley starting at SG while Harris returns to form), I just stated I'd like to seperate those two from the SF option.

Barton has to play minutes opposite of Jokic and Murray. Or w just one of them usually as the 3rd playmaker.

I have heard that mention by a few analysts, I think its gotta be kept as an option. Need to see if Barton can return to his pre-injury form.

I don’t like Craig and Gary Harris starting together either but I think they’ll do it unless mpj is ready or Juancho shines early. They want that shooter in there of either guy I’d assume. But can’t quite yet.

I like Harris and Craig as a defensive-stopper lineup, add in Grant and you can see some shut-down possibilities. Grant/Harris/Jokic/Murray/TC still can put up a few point.

Murray Fultz
Bogdanovic/Beasley
Wiggins/Craig/MpJ
Gordon/Grant/Vanderbilt Bolbol
Jokic/Bjelica/plumlee


Championship roster.

Glad you still have that morbid sense of humor, that roster SUCKS IMO

[THE J0KER]

Grant as a starter, but playing just half of his 30min at SF. The most SF minutes I would give Porter.

[Coeur]

Starting Grant at pf and Beasley at 2??

Never said ANYTHING about Grant or Beasley starting (although I have pondered Beasley starting at SG while Harris returns to form), I just stated I'd like to seperate those two from the SF option.

Barton has to play minutes opposite of Jokic and Murray. Or w just one of them usually as the 3rd playmaker.

I have heard that mention by a few analysts, I think its gotta be kept as an option. Need to see if Barton can return to his pre-injury form.

I don’t like Craig and Gary Harris starting together either but I think they’ll do it unless mpj is ready or Juancho shines early. They want that shooter in there of either guy I’d assume. But can’t quite yet.

I like Harris and Craig as a defensive-stopper lineup, add in Grant and you can see some shut-down possibilities. Grant/Harris/Jokic/Murray/TC still can put up a few point.

Murray Fultz
Bogdanovic/Beasley
Wiggins/Craig/MpJ
Gordon/Grant/Vanderbilt Bolbol
Jokic/Bjelica/plumlee


Championship roster.

Glad you still have that morbid sense of humor, that roster SUCKS IMO

Stop it. I don’t think this will be funny but you think that roster sucks? You think millsap, Harris, Barton, and Morris trades for Bogdanovic, Gordon and Wiggins. And Fultz/Bjelica and now that roster sucks??


I think that kind of statement says it’s not even worth trying w you. But I still will. No there’s not enough scoring help to make a unit out of Craig, Gary Harris, and Grant.

[skywalker33]

Murray Fultz
Bogdanovic/Beasley
Wiggins/Craig/MpJ
Gordon/Grant/Vanderbilt Bolbol
Jokic/Bjelica/plumlee


Championship roster.

Stop it. I don’t think this will be funny but you think that roster sucks? You think millsap, Harris, Barton, and Morris trades for Bogdanovic, Gordon and Wiggins. And Fultz/Bjelica and now that roster sucks??


I think that kind of statement says it’s not even worth trying w you. But I still will. No there’s not enough scoring help to make a unit out of Craig, Gary Harris, and Grant.

Well, I agree that you and I will NEVER see eye to eye, you are "outside the box" in fact I believe you're on the other side of the universe...

First thing I see about your "championship roster" is it's financially unrealistic/impossible. You have at least FOUR Max players there and not even the GSW can do that and KSE will not spend that kind of money.

Second, I doubt that starting lineup will play well together, don't see a lot of defense on that lineup. You'll be playing Westphal-ball trying to outscore the other team...and we all know how that turned out.

Wiggins is an inefficient, inconsistent average scoring SF he's a $$$ anchor who is killing the Wolves salary cap, he'd be doing the same thing here. He shot 41%/2pt and 34%/3pt you think that's good production ???

Fultz validates my belief you're just a name-chaser, please tell me what has he done in the NBA to validate ANY trust. Maybe you just believe draft position equates to talent and that's not the case here or with Wiggins.

About the only one your put on this roster (other than the existing Nuggets players) I really like is Bogdanovic and even so I can't see him near the two-way player Harris is. Gordon is OK but after 4 years in the league he's still only scoring 16ppg as a 1st option for his team ??? And NONE of the guys you've added are leaders, yet you see a CHAMPIONSHIP there ??

[Coeur]

Murray Fultz
Bogdanovic/Beasley
Wiggins/Craig/MpJ
Gordon/Grant/Vanderbilt Bolbol
Jokic/Bjelica/plumlee


Championship roster.

Stop it. I don’t think this will be funny but you think that roster sucks? You think millsap, Harris, Barton, and Morris trades for Bogdanovic, Gordon and Wiggins. And Fultz/Bjelica and now that roster sucks??


I think that kind of statement says it’s not even worth trying w you. But I still will. No there’s not enough scoring help to make a unit out of Craig, Gary Harris, and Grant.

Well, I agree that you and I will NEVER see eye to eye, you are "outside the box" in fact I believe you're on the other side of the universe...

First thing I see about your "championship roster" is it's financially unrealistic/impossible. You have at least FOUR Max players there and not even the GSW can do that and KSE will not spend that kind of money.

Second, I doubt that starting lineup will play well together, don't see a lot of defense on that lineup. You'll be playing Westphal-ball trying to outscore the other team...and we all know how that turned out.

Wiggins is an inefficient, inconsistent average scoring SF he's a $$$ anchor who is killing the Wolves salary cap, he'd be doing the same thing here. He shot 41%/2pt and 34%/3pt you think that's good production ???

Fultz validates my belief you're just a name-chaser, please tell me what has he done in the NBA to validate ANY trust. Maybe you just believe draft position equates to talent and that's not the case here or with Wiggins.

About the only one your put on this roster (other than the existing Nuggets players) I really like is Bogdanovic and even so I can't see him near the two-way player Harris is. Gordon is OK but after 4 years in the league he's still only scoring 16ppg as a 1st option for his team ??? And NONE of the guys you've added are leaders, yet you see a CHAMPIONSHIP there ??

I couldn’t get through the first thing after your shot. Not financially possible? For those cap slots? Nugs have the capability to have the most big cap slots of any team ever. We all know they won’t. And there will not be 11 or 12 big contracts. But explain that if you can.


Oh fultz one is easy. This “names” thing is completely opposite. That’s you guys. What do you really know? How should I know what you know?

It’s talent and value for me.

Trade Morris out as 1st round value. And take fultz in at negative value. Big contract. That can be expiring or 2 years. But if you have Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley then the reality is that Monte Morris wasn’t going to play anywhere. Fultz is a guy I’ll have at the very end of the bench. If you get nothing you needed nothing.

I watch every single pac 12 game. And the nba. Ive seen fultz in person. He’s a super talent. And you know all the rest. He’s worth nothing right now. But when you want brandin Goodwin on the end of your bench I’m fine with how you think. I want fultz on the end of mine. He might ducking take someone’s job someday. Or not. I’ll yake lo risk high reward Nugs don’t need him. But what if he puts his **** together?? Still high ceiling. Low probability of getting there.


But yeah. Some people focus on the image of a fultz or Wiggins. I just go by talent and value

[skywalker33]

I couldn’t get through the first thing after your shot. Not financially possible? For those cap slots? Nugs have the capability to have the most big cap slots of any team ever. We all know they won’t. And there will not be 11 or 12 big contracts. But explain that if you can.


Oh fultz one is easy. This “names” thing is completely opposite. That’s you guys. What do you really know? How should I know what you know?

It’s talent and value for me.

Trade Morris out as 1st round value. And take fultz in at negative value. Big contract. That can be expiring or 2 years. But if you have Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley then the reality is that Monte Morris wasn’t going to play anywhere. Fultz is a guy I’ll have at the very end of the bench. If you get nothing you needed nothing.

I watch every single pac 12 game. And the nba. Ive seen fultz in person. He’s a super talent. And you know all the rest. He’s worth nothing right now. But when you want brandin Goodwin on the end of your bench I’m fine with how you think. I want fultz on the end of mine. He might ducking take someone’s job someday. Or not. I’ll yake lo risk high reward Nugs don’t need him. But what if he puts his **** together?? Still high ceiling. Low probability of getting there.


But yeah. Some people focus on the image of a fultz or Wiggins. I just go by talent and value

Can't do some simple math ?? Just add salaries of your starting lineup for next year and compare it to the anticipate #118M cap...if you can't figure it out from there

Your posts are filled with no real substance, I'm so done, seems like I'm talking to a brick wall !!

[NuggetsWY]

I couldn’t get through the first thing after your shot. Not financially possible? For those cap slots? Nugs have the capability to have the most big cap slots of any team ever. We all know they won’t. And there will not be 11 or 12 big contracts. But explain that if you can.

Oh fultz one is easy. This “names” thing is completely opposite. That’s you guys. What do you really know? How should I know what you know?

It’s talent and value for me.

Trade Morris out as 1st round value. And take fultz in at negative value. Big contract. That can be expiring or 2 years. But if you have Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley then the reality is that Monte Morris wasn’t going to play anywhere. Fultz is a guy I’ll have at the very end of the bench. If you get nothing you needed nothing.

I watch every single pac 12 game. And the nba. Ive seen fultz in person. He’s a super talent. And you know all the rest. He’s worth nothing right now. But when you want brandin Goodwin on the end of your bench I’m fine with how you think. I want fultz on the end of mine. He might ducking take someone’s job someday. Or not. I’ll yake lo risk high reward Nugs don’t need him. But what if he puts his **** together?? Still high ceiling. Low probability of getting there.

But yeah. Some people focus on the image of a fultz or Wiggins. I just go by talent and value

Can't do some simple math ?? Just add salaries of your starting lineup for next year and compare it to the anticipate #118M cap...if you can't figure it out from there

Your posts are filled with no real substance, I'm so done, seems like I'm talking to a brick wall !!

I did a rough estimate and that "winning roster" would be about $140m this year and far beyond that next year.

[The Rebel]

Starting Grant at pf and Beasley at 2??

Never said ANYTHING about Grant or Beasley starting (although I have pondered Beasley starting at SG while Harris returns to form), I just stated I'd like to seperate those two from the SF option.

Barton has to play minutes opposite of Jokic and Murray. Or w just one of them usually as the 3rd playmaker.

I have heard that mention by a few analysts, I think its gotta be kept as an option. Need to see if Barton can return to his pre-injury form.

I don’t like Craig and Gary Harris starting together either but I think they’ll do it unless mpj is ready or Juancho shines early. They want that shooter in there of either guy I’d assume. But can’t quite yet.

I like Harris and Craig as a defensive-stopper lineup, add in Grant and you can see some shut-down possibilities. Grant/Harris/Jokic/Murray/TC still can put up a few point.

Murray Fultz
Bogdanovic/Beasley
Wiggins/Craig/MpJ
Gordon/Grant/Vanderbilt Bolbol
Jokic/Bjelica/plumlee


Championship roster.

Glad you still have that morbid sense of humor, that roster SUCKS IMO

Stop it. I don’t think this will be funny but you think that roster sucks? You think millsap, Harris, Barton, and Morris trades for Bogdanovic, Gordon and Wiggins. And Fultz/Bjelica and now that roster sucks??


I think that kind of statement says it’s not even worth trying w you. But I still will. No there’s not enough scoring help to make a unit out of Craig, Gary Harris, and Grant.

Holey Crap, come on man you have to be trolling us.

You think trading a 4 time all star and our defensive leader, a top 5 perimeter defender in the league, a very good 6th man, and arguably the best backup PG in the league is a great deal for a decent scoring SG with iffy defense, a solid underachieving young PF, arguably a top 5 bad contract in the league, a backup PG that lost his jumpshot despite not having an injury, and a good jumpshooting with marginal defense PF/C is a good deal? Are you serious?

That is not even talking about the money, which puts us well into the luxury tax for a team that will be lucky to make the playoffs, and that will be with big growth from Murray and Jokic.

Sorry but you have to be a troll, there is just no other explanation.

[Coeur]

Never said ANYTHING about Grant or Beasley starting (although I have pondered Beasley starting at SG while Harris returns to form), I just stated I'd like to seperate those two from the SF option.



I have heard that mention by a few analysts, I think its gotta be kept as an option. Need to see if Barton can return to his pre-injury form.



I like Harris and Craig as a defensive-stopper lineup, add in Grant and you can see some shut-down possibilities. Grant/Harris/Jokic/Murray/TC still can put up a few point.


Glad you still have that morbid sense of humor, that roster SUCKS IMO

Stop it. I don’t think this will be funny but you think that roster sucks? You think millsap, Harris, Barton, and Morris trades for Bogdanovic, Gordon and Wiggins. And Fultz/Bjelica and now that roster sucks??


I think that kind of statement says it’s not even worth trying w you. But I still will. No there’s not enough scoring help to make a unit out of Craig, Gary Harris, and Grant.

Holey Crap, come on man you have to be trolling us.

You think trading a 4 time all star and our defensive leader, a top 5 perimeter defender in the league, a very good 6th man, and arguably the best backup PG in the league is a great deal for a decent scoring SG with iffy defense, a solid underachieving young PF, arguably a top 5 bad contract in the league, a backup PG that lost his jumpshot despite not having an injury, and a good jumpshooting with marginal defense PF/C is a good deal? Are you serious?

That is not even talking about the money, which puts us well into the luxury tax for a team that will be lucky to make the playoffs, and that will be with big growth from Murray and Jokic.

Sorry but you have to be a troll, there is just no other explanation.

You are trolling yourself. Look at your descriptions of Nugs players and then your description of these other players. It’s proof that you’re just a fanboy light blue goggles wearing fan. That’s fine. Don’t you get that you shouldn’t take that into discussion on talent of trade value?


The other thing you’re showing beside the undervalue overvalue fanboy part is that you’re not able to project what actual abilities a guy has will look like in different situation.


Also not being able to understand the situation at all of future ramifications of still having both Gary Harris and will Barton still on the team when and needing to sign Beasley, hernangomez, Torrey Craig, and Grant. And then oh yeah still have to re sign Plumlee or pay real money for another C which since it isn’t really possible Will mean a bigger longer deal to plumlee again than you want.


It’s sad for you not to be able to understand things if that was the case. If you’re not recognizing this because you just don’t want too that’s a different thing. Those people are just stupid. Looking at Paul Millsap and where he’s really at and what he’s worth as a player and expirer is silly to want that contract to expire. Some of you are prob so whack that you envision another millsap deal after or just letting him expire. That’s fanboy stuff and it’s fine. But it’s stupid business value wise and long term.



Aaron Gordon is so much better Than any forward on the Nugs team and a perfect skill set match for the Nugs best player Jokic. It’s idiotic or fanboy to not see that. Fan boy is fine.

[Coeur]

I couldn’t get through the first thing after your shot. Not financially possible? For those cap slots? Nugs have the capability to have the most big cap slots of any team ever. We all know they won’t. And there will not be 11 or 12 big contracts. But explain that if you can.

Oh fultz one is easy. This “names” thing is completely opposite. That’s you guys. What do you really know? How should I know what you know?

It’s talent and value for me.

Trade Morris out as 1st round value. And take fultz in at negative value. Big contract. That can be expiring or 2 years. But if you have Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley then the reality is that Monte Morris wasn’t going to play anywhere. Fultz is a guy I’ll have at the very end of the bench. If you get nothing you needed nothing.

I watch every single pac 12 game. And the nba. Ive seen fultz in person. He’s a super talent. And you know all the rest. He’s worth nothing right now. But when you want brandin Goodwin on the end of your bench I’m fine with how you think. I want fultz on the end of mine. He might ducking take someone’s job someday. Or not. I’ll yake lo risk high reward Nugs don’t need him. But what if he puts his **** together?? Still high ceiling. Low probability of getting there.

But yeah. Some people focus on the image of a fultz or Wiggins. I just go by talent and value

Can't do some simple math ?? Just add salaries of your starting lineup for next year and compare it to the anticipate #118M cap...if you can't figure it out from there

Your posts are filled with no real substance, I'm so done, seems like I'm talking to a brick wall !!

I did a rough estimate and that "winning roster" would be about $140m this year and far beyond that next year.

That’s cute of you to worry for kroenkes money. Or just ?? But you have to go overboard ?? To justify not showing your math. Because you can.


If you show your work and still agree with yourself which you won’t. Yousee that you’re saying you can’t even afford the guys you already have and that makes keeping them all even dumber.


What’s the keep everyone payroll you want for Denver next year. When you have to pay Atleast this much for each

Beasley- 15-18
Hernangomez 10-12
Craig 8-12
Grant 10-14 if you have only him and millsap this year
Plumlee 5-8




Bogdanovic, Wiggins, Gordon 58 mill

Millsap, Harris, Barton 63 mill


I go through numbers and the only thing you’ve taught me here is that fultz on the end of the bench part of my plan at 9 or 10 is way to expensive to take the gamble and possible value growth.

[Coeur]

I couldn’t get through the first thing after your shot. Not financially possible? For those cap slots? Nugs have the capability to have the most big cap slots of any team ever. We all know they won’t. And there will not be 11 or 12 big contracts. But explain that if you can.


Oh fultz one is easy. This “names” thing is completely opposite. That’s you guys. What do you really know? How should I know what you know?

It’s talent and value for me.

Trade Morris out as 1st round value. And take fultz in at negative value. Big contract. That can be expiring or 2 years. But if you have Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley then the reality is that Monte Morris wasn’t going to play anywhere. Fultz is a guy I’ll have at the very end of the bench. If you get nothing you needed nothing.

I watch every single pac 12 game. And the nba. Ive seen fultz in person. He’s a super talent. And you know all the rest. He’s worth nothing right now. But when you want brandin Goodwin on the end of your bench I’m fine with how you think. I want fultz on the end of mine. He might ducking take someone’s job someday. Or not. I’ll yake lo risk high reward Nugs don’t need him. But what if he puts his **** together?? Still high ceiling. Low probability of getting there.


But yeah. Some people focus on the image of a fultz or Wiggins. I just go by talent and value

Can't do some simple math ?? Just add salaries of your starting lineup for next year and compare it to the anticipate #118M cap...if you can't figure it out from there

Your posts are filled with no real substance, I'm so done, seems like I'm talking to a brick wall !!

getting exposed is hard. Sometimes those people throw their true selves as insults at others maybe without even knowing they are. You get some fire and you say look at my math. Look at your math. Put it down here. Show it. You won’t. You can’t.

What’s your next year’s team/roster/ cap. ? Put it down and then we can compare and all see. But we know why you won’t. You should be done with talent and projections and trades. Here’s a chance to see if you can? But I know how people are. I know what you will bring back to this conversation. And it’s what you clearly fear seeing your post. It’s that you have no substance. And you have nothing but some defense mechanisms. Go with math now. Show something other than what’s glaring of you right now

[NuggetsWY]

I go through numbers and the only thing you’ve taught me here is that fultz on the end of the bench part of my plan at 9 or 10 is way to expensive to take the gamble and possible value growth.

Wow! Coeur actually admitting he made a mistake?

[skywalker33]

I couldn’t get through the first thing after your shot. Not financially possible? For those cap slots? Nugs have the capability to have the most big cap slots of any team ever. We all know they won’t. And there will not be 11 or 12 big contracts. But explain that if you can.


Oh fultz one is easy. This “names” thing is completely opposite. That’s you guys. What do you really know? How should I know what you know?

It’s talent and value for me.

Trade Morris out as 1st round value. And take fultz in at negative value. Big contract. That can be expiring or 2 years. But if you have Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley then the reality is that Monte Morris wasn’t going to play anywhere. Fultz is a guy I’ll have at the very end of the bench. If you get nothing you needed nothing.

I watch every single pac 12 game. And the nba. Ive seen fultz in person. He’s a super talent. And you know all the rest. He’s worth nothing right now. But when you want brandin Goodwin on the end of your bench I’m fine with how you think. I want fultz on the end of mine. He might ducking take someone’s job someday. Or not. I’ll yake lo risk high reward Nugs don’t need him. But what if he puts his **** together?? Still high ceiling. Low probability of getting there.


But yeah. Some people focus on the image of a fultz or Wiggins. I just go by talent and value

Can't do some simple math ?? Just add salaries of your starting lineup for next year and compare it to the anticipate #118M cap...if you can't figure it out from there

Your posts are filled with no real substance, I'm so done, seems like I'm talking to a brick wall !!

getting exposed is hard. Sometimes those people throw their true selves as insults at others maybe without even knowing they are. You get some fire and you say look at my math. Look at your math. Put it down here. Show it. You won’t. You can’t.

What’s your next year’s team/roster/ cap. ? Put it down and then we can compare and all see. But we know why you won’t. You should be done with talent and projections and trades. Here’s a chance to see if you can? But I know how people are. I know what you will bring back to this conversation. And it’s what you clearly fear seeing your post. It’s that you have no substance. And you have nothing but some defense mechanisms. Go with math now. Show something other than what’s glaring of you right now

Exposed, huh ?? Here's the math, with links to where I got my facts to support my post (not that I expect to see anything like it from you). Can't do it, won't do it ??? I did it but it still won't register, I'm sure you'll just try to deflect, obscure or ignore....just the type of poster you are, no substance. BTW, loved that Kuzma/Bogdanovic/Nuggets trade proposal...another of your FAILED bombs, not only discredited by Nuggets fans, but a few other posters to validate your "personnel talent evaluations"


2019/ 2020
Murray $ 4,444,746 / $ 29,250,000
Bogdanovic $ 8,529,386 / $ 16,205,833 *
Wiggins $ 27,504,630 / $ 29,542,010
Gordon $ 19,863,636 / $ 18,136,364
Jokic $ 17,504,630 / $ 29,542,010
Fultz $ 9,745,200 / $ 12,288,697
Beasley $ 2,732,714 / $ 8,195,142 * (YOU speculate $15-18M)
Craig $ 2,000,000 / $ 3,800,000 * (YOU speculate $8-12M)
MPJ $ 3,389,400 / $ 3,550,800
Grant $ 9,346,135 / $ 9,346,135 ** (YOU speculate $10-14M)
Vanderbilt $ 1,416,852 / $ 1,663,831 *
Bolbol $ 950,000 ***/ $ 1,000,000 ***
Bjelica $ 6,825,000 / $ 7,150,000 *
Plumlee $ 14,041,096 / $ 21,061,644 (YOU think he'll take 1/3 - 1/2 of his current wage? Right !! )

TOTALS $ 128,293,425 / $ 190,732,466
CAP $ 109,140,000 / $ 117,000,000
LUXURY TAX $ 132,627,000 / $ 142,000,000
2020 CAP W/ CAP TAX $ 324,000,000

* denotes cap holds ** denote PO on the low-end *** Unsigned player, reasonable est

So IF this championship were assembled, they'd have to win in 2019 because to keep this team together would cost OVER $324MM in 2020....how likely is that ??? And to do win it all in 2019, you've added 3/5 of new players into the starting lineup, I have to question not only the chemistry needed, but this lineup is VERY limited in defense (Love how you ignore/omit responding to those from my previous posts - again, no substance).

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q18
https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/den/
https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/min/
https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/sac/
https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/orl/

[TunaFish]

IMichael Porter Jr. is the wild card here. Practice videos show that he is not injured. The type of injury he sustained is generally repairable and his videos show it.

By all accounts, he was a consensus top three draft pick had he not been injured in College, perhaps even the top pick.

He is a small forward with good outside shooting and good ball handling. Defense will be the concern but there is no information available currently.

Denver has four small forwards (Barton, Craig, Hernangomez and Porter Jr.) Grant is not including because he will play power forward. Barton and Craig should be bench performers and Herangomez has shown the kind of shooting ability to be looked at as a starter but has been a defensive sieve at times. Had Porter been drafted top three he would have, without doubt, started ahead of this group.

He has had a year to work out with the Nugget's coaches and they have brought him along carefully and slowly, a perfect situation to recover from injury. He comes into this season with the experience of practicing with NBA talent. He has had individual coaching.

It's true, he has not played a single pro game but many high draft picks start soon, if they have the talent.

He may not start right away but I am voting that he will be the starter (absent injury) by mid to late season.

I wish I lived somewhere close to a gambling town because I think it would be worth risking $100 on him to win the NBA rookie of the year award. And I am not usually the gambling type. Should be good odds with all the folks thinking he is too injured to play.