The Rebel wrote: Manolito wrote:
According to Michael Scotto from Bleacher Report, we were trying to trade for Lavine including Gary Harris + Beasley + Juancho.
I don't love the idea because if his poor D and the primary ball handler role is already assign to Jokic and Murray (add MPJ into the mix), but truth to be said he is in a very friendly contracy
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Am I the only one that is pissed off about this rumor? Especially with Beasley putting up 23/6/2.5 on 60% TS% and Juancho playing solid as well as starters for the Timberwolves.
Maybe there were things in the lockerroom that we are not privy too, but there is absolutely no reason that We should have been talking about a guy like Lavine when Beasley sitting right there buried on the bench. I don't know whether it is all on the front office or if it is on Malone, but the fact is Beasley is a more effective scorer and better defender than Lavine, yet we were willing to give up more to get Lavine? Hell Lavine is making $19 million a year, so they can not even complain about the money Beasley will likely get.
I really do not understand this front office or coaching staff. It is obvious that Barton is not a good decision maker especially at the end of games, for whatever reason Harris has totally forgotten how to score, Craig in a banner year for him is almost an average scorer in the league this year, yet Juancho and Beasley have been buried at the end of the bench having their minutes and roles jerked around until they lost confidence and were worthless.
This was the year to go all in and grab a great player, move guys like Plumlee, Barton, and 1 or 2 of the young guys for a real upgrade. Instead we give 2 guys who are arguably the best 2 players starting on a division rival for downgrades and a late 1st round pick in a bad draft. Fact is Barton and Plumlee were both major reasons why we struggled in the playoffs last year, yet they have never had their role questioned. I question whether this team will ever make the move to contender with the way they kiss ass and refuse to move losing players for the upgrades we need. IT is time that Stan looks at the way his son is running this team and figure out that being the nicest team in the league is not going to win any championships. If they are satisfied with what this team is now, than they should look at what happened in 2010 when our last franchise player got tired of them being cheap and refusing to pay the money and make the moves to make us contenders back then. 2 years ago this team was stacked with great young talent that should ahve been cashed out for stars or developed to replace our veterans, now I cannot help but feel like they **** blew it again.
I agree with everything you said here, except that part about (near all-star) LaVine value.
I think LaVine is worth that price on trade deadline day because we already lost Beasley at that point for re-signing, and because the current Malik monster 23-6-3 numbers in Minnesota are partly the product of small sample and KAT injury too. But Beasley big efficiency will stay, he is that good already last season in Denver, and while I think Beasley is still not better than LaVine, he would be an already better player than Harris or Barton this season if we just accepted his 40/3 target to re-sign instead of Malone blacklisted him killing his trade value. Juancho was in September TOP3 player of FIBA World Cup champion, but he is blacklisted too and his trade value already in December was near zero. Emanuel Mudiay get chance but not used it, Willson Chandler too, Trey Lyles too, but they are just not good enough... but in cases of under-23 old Jusuf Nurkic, Malik Beasley, Juancho, we talking about obviously very talented young players which never get fair chances in Denver for different reasons, which is not the end of the world if Malone didn't kill their trade value. That is unforgettable, and we can see now Harris value disappearing fast, while I'm afraid will Grant wants to stay at all this summer. And I don't want even to think about what can happen at some point if Malone continues to play with a fire trashing MPJ week after week. Nuggets are already blessed for having the only NBA superstar with zero "ego" in Jokic, otherwise, break and bad blood was risked with the franchise player thanks to Malone. I realize that this summer when Jokic as the world's best center accepted the status of backup forward in the Serbian national team, so all these "strange" things he suffers from Malone in the past are back to my memory. That said, I like how Malone started to treat Murray since ASG break in Jamal rookie season, so I want to believe Malone will start to use that model now towards Porter.
Now back on subject, potential trades in upcoming summer. In modern NBA trades are a more important thing than ever. Lakers, Clippers, Rockets, Jazz, Mavs, Memphis... all Western playoff teams except Nuggets and Oklahoma make some blockbuster trade in the past 12 months to make their teams significantly better, and Oklahoma is technically not better, but have better future thanks to two big trades. Only Nuggets doing nothing or even worse, use trades to make the team worse!? For big goals, Nuggets have Jokic and Murray, and MPJ is the real deal, so we need to add just one another extraordinary (let say TOP50) player!
Jrue Holiday, JJ Reddick for Harris, Barton, Bol Bol, and HOU-20
Zach LaVine for Harris, Barton, HOU-20, DEN-22
Buddy Hield (until 2024!) for Harris, Barton, Bol Bol, HOU-20, DEN-22