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Post#301 » by Quentin » Sun Mar 8, 2020 2:52 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
Quentin wrote:Just stopping by to say "thank you" for Beasley. Dude is playing awesome for us and I think he can get better. Love his game. I don't even remember what we gave up to get him. :D


Hope you say thanks when he’s asking for $90MM over 4-yrs this summer


He's better than Wiggins and we were paying him $30M per season. He won't demand that much money anyway.
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Post#302 » by NuggetsWY » Sun Mar 8, 2020 4:34 pm

Quentin wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
Quentin wrote:Just stopping by to say "thank you" for Beasley. Dude is playing awesome for us and I think he can get better. Love his game. I don't even remember what we gave up to get him. :D

Hope you say thanks when he’s asking for $90MM over 4-yrs this summer

He's better than Wiggins and we were paying him $30M per season. He won't demand that much money anyway.

:lol: I'll agree that he's better than Wiggins. I suspect Beasley will get over $15m per and probably looking for 4 years.
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Post#303 » by Maf » Sun Mar 8, 2020 8:07 pm

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Quentin wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:Hope you say thanks when he’s asking for $90MM over 4-yrs this summer

He's better than Wiggins and we were paying him $30M per season. He won't demand that much money anyway.

:lol: I'll agree that he's better than Wiggins. I suspect Beasley will get over $15m per and probably looking for 4 years.



I think they'll have to go MUCH higher with their offer. I think Malik believes he is better than Garry Harris and he signed 4/84. Especially if he keeps raining 20+pts on 50+40+80 % shooting.
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Post#304 » by THE J0KER » Sun Mar 8, 2020 11:28 pm

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Quentin wrote:He's better than Wiggins and we were paying him $30M per season. He won't demand that much money anyway.

:lol: I'll agree that he's better than Wiggins. I suspect Beasley will get over $15m per and probably looking for 4 years.



I think they'll have to go MUCH higher with their offer. I think Malik believes he is better than Garry Harris and he signed 4/84. Especially if he keeps raining 20+pts on 50+40+80 % shooting.

Beasley asked 40/3 from Nuggets but our offer was 30/3. I blame for that more Malone than TC and AK, because he is the ones who don't have big future plans and role for Malik in his vision, and it would be crazy to pay more than 10M for 15-20 mpg guy in contender team with already two max players.

After just one month in Minnesota, and armed with his superagent, I can't see him getting less than 50/3 or 70/4 this summer. Thank you, coach Malone, for not signing such talent under his real price or/and losing such an asset for nothing!
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Post#305 » by skywalker33 » Mon Mar 9, 2020 2:38 am

Quentin wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
Quentin wrote:Just stopping by to say "thank you" for Beasley. Dude is playing awesome for us and I think he can get better. Love his game. I don't even remember what we gave up to get him. :D


Hope you say thanks when he’s asking for $90MM over 4-yrs this summer


He's better than Wiggins and we were paying him $30M per season. He won't demand that much money anyway.


Well with the money now available MINN has, you never know, especially with his new representation. Betting his agent wants him to hit the free agent market, especially with his stats going up. And while you don't remember what you gave up for him (why does that sound like you just came over to gloat ???) Beasley and Juancho (both being missed here a bit) really haven't made huge differences for you, just scoring. I noticed you guys are only 3-7 over the last 10...not that we're doing much better after the trade either.
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Post#306 » by The Rebel » Mon Mar 9, 2020 3:35 am

It is funny to me that Twolves fans are coming over here to gloat, when several of us told them exactly what they were getting, and they were crying how they got ripped off.
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Post#307 » by Manolito » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:00 am

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Maf wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote: :lol: I'll agree that he's better than Wiggins. I suspect Beasley will get over $15m per and probably looking for 4 years.



I think they'll have to go MUCH higher with their offer. I think Malik believes he is better than Garry Harris and he signed 4/84. Especially if he keeps raining 20+pts on 50+40+80 % shooting.

Beasley asked 40/3 from Nuggets but our offer was 30/3. I blame for that more Malone than TC and AK, because he is the ones who don't have big future plans and role for Malik in his vision, and it would be crazy to pay more than 10M for 15-20 mpg guy in contender team with already two max players.

After just one month in Minnesota, and armed with his superagent, I can't see him getting less than 50/3 or 70/4 this summer. Thank you, coach Malone, for not signing such talent under his real price or/and losing such an asset for nothing!


Any official source about that? My guess has always been he wanted Barton´s contract, which is exactly 40Mx3. That makes even more harmful the trade, you give Beasley what he wants at the end of the season (in Denver he would not have got any higher offer) and you still have february 2020, summer 2020, february 2021 to move other players or in worst case a S&T to not exceed luxury task.
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Post#308 » by THE J0KER » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:26 am

Manolito wrote:
THE J0KER wrote:
Maf wrote:

I think they'll have to go MUCH higher with their offer. I think Malik believes he is better than Garry Harris and he signed 4/84. Especially if he keeps raining 20+pts on 50+40+80 % shooting.

Beasley asked 40/3 from Nuggets but our offer was 30/3. I blame for that more Malone than TC and AK, because he is the ones who don't have big future plans and role for Malik in his vision, and it would be crazy to pay more than 10M for 15-20 mpg guy in contender team with already two max players.

After just one month in Minnesota, and armed with his superagent, I can't see him getting less than 50/3 or 70/4 this summer. Thank you, coach Malone, for not signing such talent under his real price or/and losing such an asset for nothing!


Any official source about that? My guess has always been he wanted Barton´s contract, which is exactly 40Mx3. That makes even more harmful the trade, you give Beasley what he wants at the end of the season (in Denver he would not have got any higher offer) and you still have february 2020, summer 2020, february 2021 to move other players or in worst case a S&T to not exceed luxury task.

It is all rumors and unofficial pieces of information during the process, but back in September/October, all sources say the same! Here is, for example, an article which using ESPN insider Bobby Marks as the source that Beasley asked literally for copycat 53/4 contract Will Barton get previously https://www.denverstiffs.com/2019/10/4/20899272/report-malik-beasley-turned-down-3-30-extension-from-denver-nuggets-during-the-summer-rich-paul

But in reality, it would be actually 40/3 deal, because unlike Barton, Malik would decline player option that the last 4th year as a player which on his prime in 2022 would worth clearly more than 13M per year.
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Post#309 » by skywalker33 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:25 pm

A few Nuggets trades popping up on the TnT board, mostly well defended by Nuggets fans (other posters don’t think much of our talent). See a lot about GHarris being traded because of two down offensive seasons. Personally think is more due to his core injury as well as new players impacting the lineup ( Murray’s chemistry with Joker, MPJ and Grant feeling their way into the rotation), and a bloated contract.

So, is there a trade/player you think could be moved to help the Nuggets next year ?

Personally I could see a trade up in the draft to move up for Vassell as I see SG our biggest concern. Barton or Morris (who both should have descent value ) perhaps Harris if we get value back, I think he may return to form given the record period the layoff presented.

Does Bol join our team, where does he play? C , PF ?
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Post#310 » by TunaFish » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:43 pm

skywalker33 wrote:A few Nuggets trades popping up on the TnT board, mostly well defended by Nuggets fans (other posters don’t think much of our talent). See a lot about GHarris being traded because of two down offensive seasons. Personally think is more due to his core injury as well as new players impacting the lineup ( Murray’s chemistry with Joker, MPJ and Grant feeling their way into the rotation), and a bloated contract.

So, is there a trade/player you think could be moved to help the Nuggets next year ?

Personally I could see a trade up in the draft to move up for Vassell as I see SG our biggest concern. Barton or Morris (who both should have descent value ) perhaps Harris if we get value back, I think he may return to form given the record period the layoff presented.

Does Bol join our team, where does he play? C , PF ?


To me, Bol is a stretch 4. Too light for center.

Have to agree that Harris due to injury has had some difficult seasons back to back. Not sure what you could get in a trade but he would be the one I would move and play Barton at sg. Now if the Harris of 2017 appears, all bets are off.
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Post#311 » by skywalker33 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:07 am

While he's got C height yet still very light, if he were to get up to 235-240lbs range I could easily see Bol as a small-ball C, especially given his shooting touch. He runs well enough, plays defense well enough to start the fast-break, this off-season will be HUGE for BB.
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Post#312 » by TunaFish » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:25 am

skywalker33 wrote:While he's got C height yet still very light, if he were to get up to 235-240lbs range I could easily see Bol as a small-ball C, especially given his shooting touch. He runs well enough, plays defense well enough to start the fast-break, this off-season will be HUGE for BB.


It's the shooting that makes him different. He will have difficulty with big body centers but his height and shot blocking can't be ignored. Finding the right spot for him will be interesting.
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Post#313 » by skywalker33 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:49 pm

TunaFish wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:While he's got C height yet still very light, if he were to get up to 235-240lbs range I could easily see Bol as a small-ball C, especially given his shooting touch. He runs well enough, plays defense well enough to start the fast-break, this off-season will be HUGE for BB.


It's the shooting that makes him different. He will have difficulty with big body centers but his height and shot blocking can't be ignored. Finding the right spot for him will be interesting.


His shooting would force those big bodied centers to go outside to guard him, opening up the middle of the lane. And Bol is fluid enough to take those big bodied Centers off the dribble, although Bol isn't known for his ball-handling.Interesting to think of playing him with Joker at the top of the key and Bol at the elbow, that would leave our wings one-on-one with an open paint and Jokic with the ball in his hands, Bol's 3-pt shooting or an easy layup, not bad choice for the offense.
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