Re: Nuggets Trades
Posted: Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:43 pm
We need Steve Hess back, he will put confidence in all of our players and then some, if he cant i dont know who can xD
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psimanic1 wrote:We need Steve Hess back, he will put confidence in all of our players and then some, if he cant i dont know who can xD
skywalker33 wrote:Wouldn't be surprised to see the Nugget calling up the Sixer trying to purchase one of their draft picks, they have 21, 34, 36, 49 and 58 in this years draft. They are also already at $142MM on the cap and will be looking to get some fast cash to pay the Tax. Not sure they'd want #21, 49 or 58 but we could get a decent young player in the early 2nd or a nice draft-n-stash (perhaps Bolmaro would make someone happy on this board ). Some names like Reed, Nnaji, Stanley even Cole Anthony has been rumored to fall. Opportunity for some cheap talent possibilities for cash.
The Rebel wrote:What if we can move Harris and help facilitate the 76ers getting shooting?
The Kings trade Heild, Barnes, Bjelica and get back Tobias Harris, Gary Harris, and 22nd overall
Gary if he gets his shot back is the perfect fit next to Fox as a guy who can defend and hit open shots, T Harris is what they really need as a guy who can create his own shot in the front court. The pick can help add young talent to the team.
76ers trade T Harris, Josh Richardson, Thybulle, 34th & 58th overall picks and get back Heild, Barnes, and Morris
The 76ers use the 2nds and Thybulle to move off of Harris's deal and get shooters that they desperately need, all 3 will result in their offense actually having room for their stars to actually work together.
Nuggets trade Gary Harris, Monte Morris. and the 22nd overall for Richardson, Thybulle, and Bjelica, 34th & 58th overall picks
We downgrade Harris for a guy who I think is the perfect fit long term at SG in Thybulle, Richardson is a good fit with Barton and Dozier off the bench. Bjelica is a solid 3rd big that can shoot and defend well at the Center position.
The trade is a disaster for Sixers, but if we switch Tobias Harris with Al Horford, it can work for all three teams!The Rebel wrote:What if we can move Harris and help facilitate the 76ers getting shooting?
The Kings trade Heild, Barnes, Bjelica and get back Tobias Harris, Gary Harris, and 22nd overall
Gary if he gets his shot back is the perfect fit next to Fox as a guy who can defend and hit open shots, T Harris is what they really need as a guy who can create his own shot in the front court. The pick can help add young talent to the team.
76ers trade T Harris, Josh Richardson, Thybulle, 34th & 58th overall picks and get back Heild, Barnes, and Morris
The 76ers use the 2nds and Thybulle to move off of Harris's deal and get shooters that they desperately need, all 3 will result in their offense actually having room for their stars to actually work together.
Nuggets trade Gary Harris, Monte Morris. and the 22nd overall for Richardson, Thybulle, and Bjelica, 34th & 58th overall picks
We downgrade Harris for a guy who I think is the perfect fit long term at SG in Thybulle, Richardson is a good fit with Barton and Dozier off the bench. Bjelica is a solid 3rd big that can shoot and defend well at the Center position.
stoo wrote:I just saw Nurk's dad photo in purple and gold suit. Nurk signed with Klutch. I have a feeling that we will have to go thru AD and Nurk next season. We need big bodies, especially next to Joker, a specificity of our build
skywalker33 wrote:stoo wrote:I just saw Nurk's dad photo in purple and gold suit. Nurk signed with Klutch. I have a feeling that we will have to go thru AD and Nurk next season. We need big bodies, especially next to Joker, a specificity of our build
Nurk is signed thru 2022 and I don't see the Lakers having any cap room after AD resigns there...unless LBJ retires.
THE J0KER wrote:The trade is a disaster for Sixers, but if we switch Tobias Harris with Al Horford, it can work for all three teams!The Rebel wrote:What if we can move Harris and help facilitate the 76ers getting shooting?
The Kings trade Heild, Barnes, Bjelica and get back Tobias Harris, Gary Harris, and 22nd overall
Gary if he gets his shot back is the perfect fit next to Fox as a guy who can defend and hit open shots, T Harris is what they really need as a guy who can create his own shot in the front court. The pick can help add young talent to the team.
76ers trade T Harris, Josh Richardson, Thybulle, 34th & 58th overall picks and get back Heild, Barnes, and Morris
The 76ers use the 2nds and Thybulle to move off of Harris's deal and get shooters that they desperately need, all 3 will result in their offense actually having room for their stars to actually work together.
Nuggets trade Gary Harris, Monte Morris. and the 22nd overall for Richardson, Thybulle, and Bjelica, 34th & 58th overall picks
We downgrade Harris for a guy who I think is the perfect fit long term at SG in Thybulle, Richardson is a good fit with Barton and Dozier off the bench. Bjelica is a solid 3rd big that can shoot and defend well at the Center position.
THE J0KER wrote:The trade is a disaster for Sixers, but if we switch Tobias Harris with Al Horford, it can work for all three teams!The Rebel wrote:What if we can move Harris and help facilitate the 76ers getting shooting?
The Kings trade Heild, Barnes, Bjelica and get back Tobias Harris, Gary Harris, and 22nd overall
Gary if he gets his shot back is the perfect fit next to Fox as a guy who can defend and hit open shots, T Harris is what they really need as a guy who can create his own shot in the front court. The pick can help add young talent to the team.
76ers trade T Harris, Josh Richardson, Thybulle, 34th & 58th overall picks and get back Heild, Barnes, and Morris
The 76ers use the 2nds and Thybulle to move off of Harris's deal and get shooters that they desperately need, all 3 will result in their offense actually having room for their stars to actually work together.
Nuggets trade Gary Harris, Monte Morris. and the 22nd overall for Richardson, Thybulle, and Bjelica, 34th & 58th overall picks
We downgrade Harris for a guy who I think is the perfect fit long term at SG in Thybulle, Richardson is a good fit with Barton and Dozier off the bench. Bjelica is a solid 3rd big that can shoot and defend well at the Center position.
stoo wrote:skywalker33 wrote:stoo wrote:I just saw Nurk's dad photo in purple and gold suit. Nurk signed with Klutch. I have a feeling that we will have to go thru AD and Nurk next season. We need big bodies, especially next to Joker, a specificity of our build
Nurk is signed thru 2022 and I don't see the Lakers having any cap room after AD resigns there...unless LBJ retires.
I can see them executing some silly trade, something like when Paul Gasol was traded to LA
The Rebel wrote:stoo wrote:skywalker33 wrote:
Nurk is signed thru 2022 and I don't see the Lakers having any cap room after AD resigns there...unless LBJ retires.
I can see them executing some silly trade, something like when Paul Gasol was traded to LA
The problem is that the Lakers have even less assets than they did when they trade for Pau. They traded a guy they had just drafted in the 1st round, a guy half way through the European season where he was winning the MVP, 2 1st round picks, and expiring deals.
The Lakers have no draft and stash guys, the 1st future 1st they have is in 2027, their best young talent on the team is Kuzma, they really have nothing to entice a team to trade a quality player. I am sure the Trailblazers would rather keep Nurkic for the next 2 years and lose him for nothing than to trade him for Kyle Kuzma and a 1st that will be used long after the current front office has been fired.
youngthegiant wrote:I'm starting to lean for Denver to become the Spurs 2.0. Don't trade all your young players for one aging player and fill your needs through the draft and free agency. If there's a no brainer (trading a 1st rd pick for Jerami Grant), you do it....but other than that keep the talent coming through. If someone doesn't buy in (Malik Beasley) then ship them out. You have 2 star players and potentially a 3rd(MPJ). Don't let the media tell you only have a 2 year window. Turn it into a 10 year one.
skywalker33 wrote:youngthegiant wrote:I'm starting to lean for Denver to become the Spurs 2.0. Don't trade all your young players for one aging player and fill your needs through the draft and free agency. If there's a no brainer (trading a 1st rd pick for Jerami Grant), you do it....but other than that keep the talent coming through. If someone doesn't buy in (Malik Beasley) then ship them out. You have 2 star players and potentially a 3rd(MPJ). Don't let the media tell you only have a 2 year window. Turn it into a 10 year one.
Well remember, San Antonio got the #1 overall draft picks TWICE, landing unquestionable HOF talents in David Robinson and Tim Duncan, even adding a #3 overall in Sean Elliott. We have had some success with our drafting but not quite that much. I agree we need to continue to build smartly, not making (any more) stupid trades and keeping the chemistry that has been the success of this team much as the Spurs did.
The Rebel wrote:Portland Trail Blazers Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Will Barton
44th overall pick
Outgoing Players
Rodney Hood
Zach Collins
16th overall pick
The Trailblazers desperately need a 4th guy, a guy who can capably play SF and can defend and spot up. It would be admitting the screwed up trading Barton, but I can see it working for them. Hood tore his achilles in December, he will likely miss a lot of next season, and I am not sure he will be anywhere close to as valuable going forward. Even Trailblazer fans are starting to admit that Collins is likely always going to be a backup big. They pick up a starter that local fans still seem to love for a backup big and a 1st round pick while dumping a bad salary, seems like a good deal to me.
Chicago Bulls Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Monte Morris
Rodney Hood
21st overall pick
Outgoing Players
Tomas Satoransky
Chandler Hutchison
Daniel Gafford
44th overall pick
The Bulls move from the 2nd round to the 1st, get a young PG that they desperately need, and dump a year off of Satoransky's deal by giving up Gafford and Hutchison. 2 guys that do not have high enough ceilings to be building blocks or take minutes from higher ceiling guys.
Denver Nuggets Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Zach Collins
Tomas Satoransky
Chandler Hutchison
Daniel Gafford
16th overall pick
Outgoing Players
Will Barton
Monte Morris
21st overall pick
Barton and Morris are both quality starters in this league, and a lot of teams need them as a 4th or 5th guy. We load up on young role players that are good enough to be in a quality rotation and maybe with development may work into starting quality. Collins is not going to be a star, but he has a solid mid range shot, is a shot blocker, and most importantly he likes to play rough and physical, exactly what we need out of a backup big. Hutchison is a good defender and solid spot up shooter, even playing injured half the season last year he was a clear upgrade on Craig and could still develop into a starting quality guy. Gafford is more of a hustle guy, he will likely never be a starter, but he is a guy every good team needs. Moving up from 21st to 16th should give us a better selection of the higher upside guys. The downside is taking back Satoransky, he is way overpaid but he still makes a very good 5th guard. A guy you can use when someone is hurt and he is a solid enough backup and he is only guaranteed for $5 million in 21/22 so he would make a solid trade chip at the deadline.