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Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:02 pm
by The Rebel
TunaFish wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:I agree that our bench issue isn't Beasley and as Grant starts hitting shots, it'll get better. Craig can be streaky and of course Plumlee won't be hitting outside shots.

I'm not sure I want to trade Porter (or Beasley). We've looked at Beasley for a while. I'd like to see Porter for a couple of years before we try a trade.

Although I'm down to just two that are untradeable - although some others I'd want a lot back. The only trade I'm interested in is for someone that is a Top-3 on the Nuggets - competing for Top-2 or maybe Top-1.

Don’t get me wrong, I see no reason to trade for any role players, we have to trade for an all star if we start trading guys who should be in the rotation or have high potential.

That being said I am not a huge fan of Porter on this team, and I do not like that he has already bitched on the bench and talked about his minutes in the media. That is not a good sign when your team has so much good depth that him playing is costing you leads. I understand top young talents expect to get some kind of minutes but if the true goal this year is a championship than there is only so much you can play him.

If we make a trade than it should be for this year, and nobody is going to want to wait on developing Porter at that point.

If we do not make an upgrade than it only makes sense to trade guys not in your long term plans for draft picks. I am not sure who those guys are just yet though.


They won't trade Porter unless someone offers a deal they can't refuse and that would have to be for an allstar caliber player. The great players move themselves around these days. Even if they found such a player, they would need another large contract with Porter's to match salaries in a trade. They also don't have a 1st round pick and they need players on cheap rookie deals besides Bol. Porter is raw but the potential is unmistakable. The interest in Beasley is tied to a contract crunch that is on its way at the end of the season.

Who do you want to keep among the restricted free agents: Morris, Beasley or Hernangomez?

Who do you want back among the unrestricted free agents: Millsap, Plumlee, Craig or Grant?

And who can they afford with Murray's extension kicking in? I don't think they can keep them all so Beasley looks like a strong trade target when you crunch the numbers. Shooters like Beasley will be in high demand. Sign and trade looks like a possibility depending on some other team meeting Beasley likely exorbitant contract demands. It is Beasley's demands that could lead to his departure.

From my math we have about $34 million to hit the tax limit depending on what happens to current projections. Personally I think that next year they should be going into the tax depending on if this team gets to the 2nd round at least this year, if they do than they will have to loosen the purse strings at least a little.

For me I keep Grant, Beasley, Morris, Hernangomez, Plumlee, Millsap, and Craig in that order.

I think you can get both Grant and Beasley for contracts starting at $12 million per year each, similar to a Barton sized deal. Grant I see as being a solid 5th starter, and a good enough replacement for Millsap. Beasley brings a much needed spot up shooter that I think is improving on defense and is already a very proven bench scorer, you mention everybody wants a good shooter why should we let one leave when our entire offense depends on 3 point shooting to spread the floor? I also have heard that Beasley and Murray are very close, I do not think losing him is the best option.

Morris to me is going to be the problem keeping, he is a starting quality PG based on last year and how he has been playing lately. Average starting quality PGs seem to get contracts starting between $15-18 million a year, and I just do not see how you pay a backup PG that kind of money. The good news is he is not a free agent next year, unless we cut him. He is on a nonguaranteed deal.
I think Juancho will likely get a contract for something around 5 year $40 million a year, or about 75% of the MLE deals. That will start around $6.5 million a year which is fair for a good rotation hustle guy that can shoot, so I would keep him.
Plumlee I go back and forth on, Centers are getting undervalued on the free agent market, but he is a borderline starting C in a league desperate for Centers. I think he gets overpaid and do not think we can afford him. If we can convince him to sign for about the MLE on a 3 year deal you keep him, but I do not see him signing for about $10 million a year.
I would love to keep Millsap, but the fact is we have Vanderbilt, Bol, Cancar, and if we bring back Grant we will have 4 guys who are all best at PF. I can see him getting a 3 year MLE type of deal and just do not see a way to keep him.
Craig is a luxury to me, he is a very good defender, but he is not a good scorer and is limited in his usefulness. I think he will get an MLE type of deal from a team desperate for a perimeter defender, but do not see anyway we can pay that for him. Now if we can get him for about half of the MLE than we have to keep him.

So keeping Beasley, Morris, Grant, and Juancho we will be somewhere around $138 million for next year. That would leave about $3 million to get a backup Center, which may not be enough forcing us to pay the taxpayer MLE, but I think that is doable putting us just into the luxury tax.

The other option I can see if trading for a long term backup Center and 6th man under longer term contracts that will keep us just under the luxury tax line next season, but that is going to depend heavily on who we can get on the market around the trade deadline.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Dec 3, 2019 2:08 am
by nzahir
Outsider here:

Why doesn't Malik Beasley play more? No space in rotation?

What do you guys want for him in a trade, if anything?

And of the 3, who would you rather trade in order: Monte Morris, Barton, and Beasley

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Dec 3, 2019 2:44 pm
by NuggetsWY
nzahir wrote:Outsider here:

Why doesn't Malik Beasley play more? No space in rotation?

What do you guys want for him in a trade, if anything?

And of the 3, who would you rather trade in order: Monte Morris, Barton, and Beasley

Thanks for the visit!

The Nuggets certainly have trouble with space in the rotation. Beasley has some great athleticism and might be our best SG - in the future.

Harris is a top defender but has struggled on offense.
Barton is playing SF but is really more of an SG.
Murray & Morris are PGs but both can play SG.
Craig can play some SG too. That's six players that can legitimately play SG.

As to who I would rather trade of those three;
Barton first simply because his best play doesn't fit the Nuggets' style. But the way he's playing this year, I'm not sure we want to trade him.

I'd guess Morris would be the second one to trade. He would probably be able to start at PG on some teams but we like him.

Beasley might have more value than Morris but he fits so well with the Nuggets scheme - if he stays focused on defense.

Keeping all of our young players might be hard next season, so for the right deal, I'd say some could be traded. But I also believe the Nuggets are going to want too much for most teams to be interested. And you focused on our deepest slot - GUARD.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Dec 3, 2019 6:17 pm
by nzahir
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:Outsider here:

Why doesn't Malik Beasley play more? No space in rotation?

What do you guys want for him in a trade, if anything?

And of the 3, who would you rather trade in order: Monte Morris, Barton, and Beasley

Thanks for the visit!

The Nuggets certainly have trouble with space in the rotation. Beasley has some great athleticism and might be our best SG - in the future.

Harris is a top defender but has struggled on offense.
Barton is playing SF but is really more of an SG.
Murray & Morris are PGs but both can play SG.
Craig can play some SG too. That's six players that can legitimately play SG.

As to who I would rather trade of those three;
Barton first simply because his best play doesn't fit the Nuggets' style. But the way he's playing this year, I'm not sure we want to trade him.

I'd guess Morris would be the second one to trade. He would probably be able to start at PG on some teams but we like him.

Beasley might have more value than Morris but he fits so well with the Nuggets scheme - if he stays focused on defense.

Keeping all of our young players might be hard next season, so for the right deal, I'd say some could be traded. But I also believe the Nuggets are going to want too much for most teams to be interested. And you focused on our deepest slot - GUARD.

Any interest in Kuzma?

I think he fits you guys very well actually. His best asset (besides 2 years, 2m a year) is his ability is to cut and move without the ball

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Dec 3, 2019 9:37 pm
by NuggetsWY
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:Outsider here:

Why doesn't Malik Beasley play more? No space in rotation?

What do you guys want for him in a trade, if anything?

And of the 3, who would you rather trade in order: Monte Morris, Barton, and Beasley

Thanks for the visit!

The Nuggets certainly have trouble with space in the rotation. Beasley has some great athleticism and might be our best SG - in the future.

Harris is a top defender but has struggled on offense.
Barton is playing SF but is really more of an SG.
Murray & Morris are PGs but both can play SG.
Craig can play some SG too. That's six players that can legitimately play SG.

As to who I would rather trade of those three;
Barton first simply because his best play doesn't fit the Nuggets' style. But the way he's playing this year, I'm not sure we want to trade him.

I'd guess Morris would be the second one to trade. He would probably be able to start at PG on some teams but we like him.

Beasley might have more value than Morris but he fits so well with the Nuggets scheme - if he stays focused on defense.

Keeping all of our young players might be hard next season, so for the right deal, I'd say some could be traded. But I also believe the Nuggets are going to want too much for most teams to be interested. And you focused on our deepest slot - GUARD.

Any interest in Kuzma?

I think he fits you guys very well actually. His best asset (besides 2 years, 2m a year) is his ability is to cut and move without the ball

In the long run, I see Grant & Porter as our probable forwards and Kuzma would be a wonderful third option. I actually like him quite a bit but then again, so do the Lakers. Kuzma's a PF-SF combo IMO. His 3pt shooting isn't great and neither is his rebounding, but I'd love his energy & style on the Nuggets. Cap-wise, either Beasley or Morris for Kuzma works and I'd take either.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Dec 3, 2019 9:41 pm
by nzahir
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:Thanks for the visit!

The Nuggets certainly have trouble with space in the rotation. Beasley has some great athleticism and might be our best SG - in the future.

Harris is a top defender but has struggled on offense.
Barton is playing SF but is really more of an SG.
Murray & Morris are PGs but both can play SG.
Craig can play some SG too. That's six players that can legitimately play SG.

As to who I would rather trade of those three;
Barton first simply because his best play doesn't fit the Nuggets' style. But the way he's playing this year, I'm not sure we want to trade him.

I'd guess Morris would be the second one to trade. He would probably be able to start at PG on some teams but we like him.

Beasley might have more value than Morris but he fits so well with the Nuggets scheme - if he stays focused on defense.

Keeping all of our young players might be hard next season, so for the right deal, I'd say some could be traded. But I also believe the Nuggets are going to want too much for most teams to be interested. And you focused on our deepest slot - GUARD.

Any interest in Kuzma?

I think he fits you guys very well actually. His best asset (besides 2 years, 2m a year) is his ability is to cut and move without the ball

In the long run, I see Grant & Porter as our probable forwards and Kuzma would be a wonderful third option. I actually like him quite a bit but then again, so do the Lakers. Kuzma's a PF-SF combo IMO. His 3pt shooting isn't great and neither is his rebounding, but I'd love his energy & style on the Nuggets. Cap-wise, either Beasley or Morris for Kuzma works and I'd take either.

But would you move Barton for him and spare pieces (to match salaries)? Or no really

I wouldn't move Kuzma for just 1 of those 2

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Dec 3, 2019 9:49 pm
by NuggetsWY
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:Any interest in Kuzma?

I think he fits you guys very well actually. His best asset (besides 2 years, 2m a year) is his ability is to cut and move without the ball

In the long run, I see Grant & Porter as our probable forwards and Kuzma would be a wonderful third option. I actually like him quite a bit but then again, so do the Lakers. Kuzma's a PF-SF combo IMO. His 3pt shooting isn't great and neither is his rebounding, but I'd love his energy & style on the Nuggets. Cap-wise, either Beasley or Morris for Kuzma works and I'd take either.

But would you move Barton for him and spare pieces (to match salaries)? Or no really

I wouldn't move Kuzma for just 1 of those 2

Exactly. Yes, I would move Barton for Kuzma. I think Barton would be a great fit with the Lakers. His handles aren't as good as he thinks they are, but they aren't bad. :wink: He's a scorer and works well in ISO - the style that works well around LeBron. I just don't know how you could work the trade in terms of cap space.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Tue Dec 3, 2019 10:10 pm
by nzahir
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:In the long run, I see Grant & Porter as our probable forwards and Kuzma would be a wonderful third option. I actually like him quite a bit but then again, so do the Lakers. Kuzma's a PF-SF combo IMO. His 3pt shooting isn't great and neither is his rebounding, but I'd love his energy & style on the Nuggets. Cap-wise, either Beasley or Morris for Kuzma works and I'd take either.

But would you move Barton for him and spare pieces (to match salaries)? Or no really

I wouldn't move Kuzma for just 1 of those 2

Exactly. Yes, I would move Barton for Kuzma. I think Barton would be a great fit with the Lakers. His handles aren't as good as he thinks they are, but they aren't bad. :wink: He's a scorer and works well in ISO - the style that works well around LeBron. I just don't know how you could work the trade in terms of cap space.

Barton has about a 13M salary
Lakers must send out 10.4M in salary

We send you guys Kuzma, Cook, Boogie (cut) = 8.5M

Send Daniels, cash, and a protected 2nd to the hawks (they have space)

You guys go:

Murray, Harris, Craig, Milsap, Jokic
Morris, Beasley, Kuzma, Grant, Plumlee

Barton plays LAL's backup 2/3, but he is their bench spark plug

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Wed Dec 4, 2019 12:07 am
by NuggetsWY
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:But would you move Barton for him and spare pieces (to match salaries)? Or no really

I wouldn't move Kuzma for just 1 of those 2

Exactly. Yes, I would move Barton for Kuzma. I think Barton would be a great fit with the Lakers. His handles aren't as good as he thinks they are, but they aren't bad. :wink: He's a scorer and works well in ISO - the style that works well around LeBron. I just don't know how you could work the trade in terms of cap space.

Barton has about a 13M salary
Lakers must send out 10.4M in salary

We send you guys Kuzma, Cook, Boogie (cut) = 8.5M

Send Daniels, cash, and a protected 2nd to the hawks (they have space)

You guys go:

Murray, Harris, Craig, Milsap, Jokic
Morris, Beasley, Kuzma, Grant, Plumlee

Barton plays LAL's backup 2/3, but he is their bench spark plug

If it takes another 2nd, Denver could send one to Atlanta --- I'd accept that deal.
Denver might start Kuzma or Hernangomez at SF, but I like your idea.
I also think Barton as a "bench spark plug" would be great for the Lakers. That was when he was at his best for Denver and I think his game has improved quite a bit since then.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Wed Dec 4, 2019 12:19 am
by The Rebel
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:But would you move Barton for him and spare pieces (to match salaries)? Or no really

I wouldn't move Kuzma for just 1 of those 2

Exactly. Yes, I would move Barton for Kuzma. I think Barton would be a great fit with the Lakers. His handles aren't as good as he thinks they are, but they aren't bad. :wink: He's a scorer and works well in ISO - the style that works well around LeBron. I just don't know how you could work the trade in terms of cap space.

Barton has about a 13M salary
Lakers must send out 10.4M in salary

We send you guys Kuzma, Cook, Boogie (cut) = 8.5M

Send Daniels, cash, and a protected 2nd to the hawks (they have space)

You guys go:

Murray, Harris, Craig, Milsap, Jokic
Morris, Beasley, Kuzma, Grant, Plumlee

Barton plays LAL's backup 2/3, but he is their bench spark plug



I strongly disagree with Nuggetswy, I do not see any scenario where the Nuggets trade for Kuzma. The entire defensive scheme depends on forwards who are good defenders and Kuzma is a below average at best defender.

As for your offer, I think the Nuggets can get a better offer Barton.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Wed Dec 4, 2019 12:41 am
by nzahir
The Rebel wrote:
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:Exactly. Yes, I would move Barton for Kuzma. I think Barton would be a great fit with the Lakers. His handles aren't as good as he thinks they are, but they aren't bad. :wink: He's a scorer and works well in ISO - the style that works well around LeBron. I just don't know how you could work the trade in terms of cap space.

Barton has about a 13M salary
Lakers must send out 10.4M in salary

We send you guys Kuzma, Cook, Boogie (cut) = 8.5M

Send Daniels, cash, and a protected 2nd to the hawks (they have space)

You guys go:

Murray, Harris, Craig, Milsap, Jokic
Morris, Beasley, Kuzma, Grant, Plumlee

Barton plays LAL's backup 2/3, but he is their bench spark plug



I strongly disagree with Nuggetswy, I do not see any scenario where the Nuggets trade for Kuzma. The entire defensive scheme depends on forwards who are good defenders and Kuzma is a below average at best defender.

As for your offer, I think the Nuggets can get a better offer Barton.

Fair enough, I can see why yes and why no

Who can you guys see yourself targeting or what upgrade should you make?

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Wed Dec 4, 2019 12:57 am
by The Rebel
nzahir wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
nzahir wrote:Barton has about a 13M salary
Lakers must send out 10.4M in salary

We send you guys Kuzma, Cook, Boogie (cut) = 8.5M

Send Daniels, cash, and a protected 2nd to the hawks (they have space)

You guys go:

Murray, Harris, Craig, Milsap, Jokic
Morris, Beasley, Kuzma, Grant, Plumlee

Barton plays LAL's backup 2/3, but he is their bench spark plug



I strongly disagree with Nuggetswy, I do not see any scenario where the Nuggets trade for Kuzma. The entire defensive scheme depends on forwards who are good defenders and Kuzma is a below average at best defender.

As for your offer, I think the Nuggets can get a better offer Barton.

Fair enough, I can see why yes and why no

Who can you guys see yourself targeting or what upgrade should you make?


Why would we be targeting anybody at this point? Who is available that is an upgrade that wants to be in Denver? I personally do not see many role players around the league that are worth trading for as the upgrade is not worth the cost. So unless a superstar comes available I doubt they do anything any time soon. Our team has been terrible on offense so far, and is still very young, yet we are 2nd in the conference, no reason to do deals just to do them.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Wed Dec 4, 2019 1:01 am
by nzahir
The Rebel wrote:
nzahir wrote:
The Rebel wrote:

I strongly disagree with Nuggetswy, I do not see any scenario where the Nuggets trade for Kuzma. The entire defensive scheme depends on forwards who are good defenders and Kuzma is a below average at best defender.

As for your offer, I think the Nuggets can get a better offer Barton.

Fair enough, I can see why yes and why no

Who can you guys see yourself targeting or what upgrade should you make?


Why would we be targeting anybody at this point? Who is available that is an upgrade that wants to be in Denver? I personally do not see many role players around the league that are worth trading for as the upgrade is not worth the cost. So unless a superstar comes available I doubt they do anything any time soon. Our team has been terrible on offense so far, and is still very young, yet we are 2nd in the conference, no reason to do deals just to do them.

Fair enough, but a year is still a year gone. You try to maximize what you can do if it won't hurt the future

So just wait it out and don't mess up what u got basically?

If thats the case, I can see Beasley getting moved if you guys won't want to pay him. For some 2nds and basically salary filler?

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Wed Dec 4, 2019 2:06 pm
by The Rebel
nzahir wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
nzahir wrote:Fair enough, I can see why yes and why no

Who can you guys see yourself targeting or what upgrade should you make?


Why would we be targeting anybody at this point? Who is available that is an upgrade that wants to be in Denver? I personally do not see many role players around the league that are worth trading for as the upgrade is not worth the cost. So unless a superstar comes available I doubt they do anything any time soon. Our team has been terrible on offense so far, and is still very young, yet we are 2nd in the conference, no reason to do deals just to do them.

Fair enough, but a year is still a year gone. You try to maximize what you can do if it won't hurt the future

So just wait it out and don't mess up what u got basically?

If thats the case, I can see Beasley getting moved if you guys won't want to pay him. For some 2nds and basically salary filler?



I love when people do this kind of crap, so we are wasting a year because there are no upgrades available for our system right now? Or because I and most Nuggets fans would laugh at the idea that Kuzma and a couple of end of the bench guys are worth our starting SF, even without taking fit into consideration? I know Lakers fans and the media love to act like Kuzma has some huge value, but the reality is he is not that good. He is a volume scorer that plays no defense yet he thinks he is a star. Go read the trade board, nobody wants to give up anything worthwhile for him.

Sorry we have some of the best defenders in the league, we have scorers, we have guys who will do the dirty work, we need our shooters to hit their shots but it is not like anybody who you proposed is a shooter. We don't need your chuckers or rotation guys, we have plenty of those.


Why should we move Beasley for 2nds? What benefit is there to the Nuggets at this point? If Beasley wants minutes he can earn them just like every other player on the roster has had to do. The Nuggets front office has openly talked about trading out of the draft for the last 3 drafts, we have a ton of young guys that the front office reportedly loves that cannot get onto the court. Why give up a guy who has struggled this year but last year showed he can be a top 10 3 point shooter in the league for more guys who we have no need for? Give us someone worthwhile and we will talk, give us guys like Kuzma and we will ignore you as most of the Nuggets fans on this board have done for the last 24 hours.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Thu Dec 5, 2019 2:06 am
by skywalker33
nzahir wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
nzahir wrote:Any interest in Kuzma?

I think he fits you guys very well actually. His best asset (besides 2 years, 2m a year) is his ability is to cut and move without the ball

In the long run, I see Grant & Porter as our probable forwards and Kuzma would be a wonderful third option. I actually like him quite a bit but then again, so do the Lakers. Kuzma's a PF-SF combo IMO. His 3pt shooting isn't great and neither is his rebounding, but I'd love his energy & style on the Nuggets. Cap-wise, either Beasley or Morris for Kuzma works and I'd take either.

But would you move Barton for him and spare pieces (to match salaries)? Or no really

I wouldn't move Kuzma for just 1 of those 2


Then you're overrating Kuzma....

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2019 12:32 pm
by The Rebel
Markkenen and Otto Porter JR are both struggling playing in the Bulls system this year, and that team has been a big disappointment, they also desperately need a PG. Would anybody consider doing MPJ, Morris, Barton, and Plumlee for Otto Porter, Lauri Markkenen, and Arciadiano?

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:33 pm
by skywalker33
The Rebel wrote:Markkenen and Otto Porter JR are both struggling playing in the Bulls system this year, and that team has been a big disappointment, they also desperately need a PG. Would anybody consider doing MPJ, Morris, Barton, and Plumlee for Otto Porter, Lauri Markkenen, and Arciadiano?


This trade would put us well into the tax and although I'm not one who thinks we should trade MPJ, I could get behind this one for sure. Porter can help on defense while Markkenen should help with the scoring load immediately. Don't know much about Arciadiano but he'd have some big shoes to fill at backup PG.

Not sure CHI would do it w/o more incentive though.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2019 9:43 pm
by The Rebel
skywalker33 wrote:
The Rebel wrote:Markkenen and Otto Porter JR are both struggling playing in the Bulls system this year, and that team has been a big disappointment, they also desperately need a PG. Would anybody consider doing MPJ, Morris, Barton, and Plumlee for Otto Porter, Lauri Markkenen, and Arciadiano?


This trade would put us well into the tax and although I'm not one who thinks we should trade MPJ, I could get behind this one for sure. Porter can help on defense while Markkenen should help with the scoring load immediately. Don't know much about Arciadiano but he'd have some big shoes to fill at backup PG.

Not sure CHI would do it w/o more incentive though.


It saves Chicago a bunch of money and makes them a better team today with guys who fit their system, MPJ is a swing for the fences that they will need, although you are right they may insist on a pick or two.


IT would put us just under the luxury tax lip, and would pretty much guarantee we are over the lip next year, but this year may be the right time to go all in.

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2019 11:17 pm
by THE J0KER
Very interesting CHI-DEN deal, I must say. But reason why I want to stay with MPJ gamble is two more years under rookie contract, which would be key factor in our cap flexibility to do something big ASAP if he will have breakthrough in 2020. Also, I guess we would lose Grant next summer because of that deal.

But if Chicago wants to give Markkanen chance, next deal would be possible:

Harris, Barton, Plumlee, Beasley, Juancho, Bol
for LaVine and Otto Porter

Re: Nuggets Trades

Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2019 11:55 pm
by skywalker33
THE J0KER wrote:Very interesting CHI-DEN deal, I must say. But reason why I want to stay with MPJ gamble is two more years under rookie contract, which would be key factor in our cap flexibility to do something big ASAP if he will have breakthrough in 2020. Also, I guess we would lose Grant next summer because of that deal.

But if Chicago wants to give Markkanen chance, next deal would be possible:

Harris, Barton, Plumlee, Beasley, Juancho, Bol
for LaVine and Otto Porter



Sorry Joker, wouldn't touch that one w/o a unprotected pick coming back to us....