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Which Free Agents do the Nuggets sign this off-season? (Choose up to ALL.)

Paul Millsap
1
4%
Mason Plumlee
4
15%
Jerami Grant
7
26%
Torrey Craig
6
22%
Noah Vonleh
3
11%
Troy Daniels
1
4%
PJ Dozier
5
19%
 
Total votes: 27

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Post#1 » by NuggetsWY » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:32 am

I believe the Nuggets have seven free agents this year. Which FAs do the Nuggets re-sign? How many do they re-sign?

I made the poll so you can change your vote and you can select up to seven.

I did not add a zero option - sorry about that. That seems highly unlikely but feel free to disagree with me. :wink:
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Post#2 » by NuggetsWY » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:38 am

I'll say no on Millsap - because I think someone else will offer too much for the Nuggets to match.

I think the Nuggets will make a serious effort to sign Plumlee - but I wouldn't be shocked if someone offered too much for the Nuggets to match.

I do believe the Nuggets will prioritize Grant and sign him.

It seems likely the Nuggets will re-sign Craig - mostly because of his defense and because his price will be easy to handle.

I do not believe Vonleh or Daniels will be a priority, but their salaries are minimal and they'd make nice deep-bench options. Will they be on our roster next year? I don't think so.

Dozier is a real question mark. I like his game but he's stuck behind Murray & Morris. I'd like to see him back, especially since all three of our PGs can play SG to some degree. Will he be back? Hmmm, I think so - I hope so.
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Post#3 » by skywalker33 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:17 pm

Millsap - Decent chance but only at vet minimum. May get a bigger offer but we are close to a championship. Age a factor.

Plumlee - Probably his last shot at a bigger deal, will sign elsewhere.

Grant - Our PFOTF is here, good defender and can score in Joker-offense. Salary cap issues will keep his raise down to $12-14Myr.

Craig - Brushing against the Luxury tax, he may be the one sacrificed if Barton or Harris isn't moved.

Dozier - I believe he is already signed for next year when they got rid of his 2-way status.

Vonleh - I like his game but don't think he'll be back.

Daniels - Can shoot the 3-pt but he'll be deep on the bench. He and/or Vonlah replaced by our 1st rder this year.
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Post#4 » by TunaFish » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:42 pm

So much about this virus and whether it will be brought under control will be a factor for every team. If you can't fill your arenas then how do you add to your salary structure. More likely you will be cutting salary.

Players may have to accept reality and take less next season. If they don't then I expect teams to take a hard line.

That said, I think they will bring back Craig, Morris and Plumlee. Grant will be a challenge.

I think Millsap will be gone but I thought that last year so I have little confidence in that prediction.

Donzier and Vonleh are maybes.
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Post#5 » by Alatan » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:54 am

Millsap is a good vet but he has gotten really long in the tooth and other teams with lots of cap space might want him.
Plumdog is not spectacular but centers are plenty to go around so if the cap squeezes him we might be able to afford him for a couple more years.
Im not that happy with Grant. Not a bad player, but too much of the wrong type of tweener. If we could get him for under 13/year id resign him but since he is considered a 3nD guy some team will probably offer him more and id let him go. If he was able to play the 3 better and guard smalls id resign him instantly but he is not so im not that worried about him leaving.
Craig is a nice specialist from the bench and who knows, maybe he develops a decent shot from 3. If we can get him for around 5-7 a year id think about keeping him.
Vonleh, Daniels and Dozier are just placeholders in my opinion. We have better players than them to start and the bench should be for good vets or young guys.
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Post#6 » by skywalker33 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:35 pm

Wow, I think you're over-estimating TC and under-estimating Grant. No way I'm paying Craig $5-7M, his shooting is way too inconsistent, $3M is as high as I'd go there. I'd like to see Gran at the $13M range too, we'll have to see if he'll accept something in that range. I agree with Millsap and Plumlee. I could see Daniels getting signed, he's shown well over these scrimmages. And I also think Dozier will be on this team, he's got talent, just needs time to put it all together...and you do need some low-priced players who can play to fill in for others, he can be that guy.
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Post#7 » by NuggetsWY » Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:50 pm

Alatan wrote:Millsap is a good vet but he has gotten really long in the tooth and other teams with lots of cap space might want him.
Plumdog is not spectacular but centers are plenty to go around so if the cap squeezes him we might be able to afford him for a couple more years.
Im not that happy with Grant. Not a bad player, but too much of the wrong type of tweener. If we could get him for under 13/year id resign him but since he is considered a 3nD guy some team will probably offer him more and id let him go. If he was able to play the 3 better and guard smalls id resign him instantly but he is not so im not that worried about him leaving.
Craig is a nice specialist from the bench and who knows, maybe he develops a decent shot from 3. If we can get him for around 5-7 a year id think about keeping him.
Vonleh, Daniels and Dozier are just placeholders in my opinion. We have better players than them to start and the bench should be for good vets or young guys.

Millsap would be nice to keep, but a one or two year contract for no more than $10m - and I don't expect him to accept. I think he's worth more to some other teams. I love him on our team. His contributions make a big difference and aren't always seen, but he's not our long-term PF IMO.

Grant worked best in OKC when he was shooting corner 3s and running the baseline. His defense is undervalued IMO. Think about facing the Clippers or Lakers with LeBron and Kahwi and George. While no one can stop them, Barton and the rest of our guards are going to be quite ineffective. Craig can slow them down. Porter might be able to in a year or two, but our best hope against those teams is Millsap & Grant at forward together - just my opinion.

Craig is a nice to have bench player - but not for every game. Call him a defensive specialist that occasionally gets hot from 3 - that's his history and he's been around long enough that major changes probably can't be expected.

I love Dozier's game but his shooting is lacking. He could still develop a better shot. Morris is the reserve guard we need to keep.

Role players can be acquired - especially if you have a solid core. With Jokic & Murray and hopefully Bol and/or Porter along with Grant - the rest of the pieces should be easy to fill in.
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Post#8 » by Alatan » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:35 pm

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Alatan wrote:Millsap is a good vet but he has gotten really long in the tooth and other teams with lots of cap space might want him.
Plumdog is not spectacular but centers are plenty to go around so if the cap squeezes him we might be able to afford him for a couple more years.
Im not that happy with Grant. Not a bad player, but too much of the wrong type of tweener. If we could get him for under 13/year id resign him but since he is considered a 3nD guy some team will probably offer him more and id let him go. If he was able to play the 3 better and guard smalls id resign him instantly but he is not so im not that worried about him leaving.
Craig is a nice specialist from the bench and who knows, maybe he develops a decent shot from 3. If we can get him for around 5-7 a year id think about keeping him.
Vonleh, Daniels and Dozier are just placeholders in my opinion. We have better players than them to start and the bench should be for good vets or young guys.

Millsap would be nice to keep, but a one or two year contract for no more than $10m - and I don't expect him to accept. I think he's worth more to some other teams. I love him on our team. His contributions make a big difference and aren't always seen, but he's not our long-term PF IMO.

Grant worked best in OKC when he was shooting corner 3s and running the baseline. His defense is undervalued IMO. Think about facing the Clippers or Lakers with LeBron and Kahwi and George. While no one can stop them, Barton and the rest of our guards are going to be quite ineffective. Craig can slow them down. Porter might be able to in a year or two, but our best hope against those teams is Millsap & Grant at forward together - just my opinion.

Craig is a nice to have bench player - but not for every game. Call him a defensive specialist that occasionally gets hot from 3 - that's his history and he's been around long enough that major changes probably can't be expected.

I love Dozier's game but his shooting is lacking. He could still develop a better shot. Morris is the reserve guard we need to keep.

Role players can be acquired - especially if you have a solid core. With Jokic & Murray and hopefully Bol and/or Porter along with Grant - the rest of the pieces should be easy to fill in.


Yeah i agree on most things except Grant. He is the best wing defender we have currently. But that doesnt make him truly good. As i said he is a bad kind of tweener. Doesnt really have the foot speed or skill to defend the faster players and doesnt have the strength to defend bigger players. He is nice as a help defender but underwhelming as a primary one. Since i project that our team will have more trouble defending the perimeter than the interior, Id rather have someone in the mold of Garry Harris but bigger/longer as our wing defender. I know its too much to ask but tying our selves to Grant is setting a defensive cap on our team.
If he accepted something up to 13 million id keep him as placeholder starter and then a wing of the bench but i doubt that he will do that.
Oh yeah. Id also like to add that im not worried about the vets leaving. Our core is actually pretty young so we have plenty of time to chase the ring. The current team is not really a contender as is. It might actually benefit us to play more young guys and even take a swipe at the 2021 or 2022 lottery since there are some nice players in there. The 2021 offseason is also pretty big. i doubt that we will catch a major fish but we might get some nice complimentary players.
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Post#9 » by THE J0KER » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:54 pm

Grant have the best chances for re-signing IMO. He looks to me like a perfect fit last summer but didn't prove it, which is maybe good on the other hand, because his price will not be too high for our tight cap. Grant's price will also not be low, but Connely proved in Plumlee and Barton cases that he is ready even to overpay the player to defend his previous decision, and Denver paid expiring Grant with 1st round pick.

Plumlee is good enough to be a starter in several NBA teams, and this time we have no cap space to pay 15/min backup player as 25-30/min starter. So, I see him going to a new team where he will play (and being paid) 25+ minutes starter role.

The only way I see Millsap stays is his own perception of his legacy on how to finish his career. If he decides to choose less money and a smaller role, but participating in an exciting Nuggets project, just great. But if he decides another way, to take some better offer with bigger money and role, nobody can blame him. I see we send him some offer, and I see some other team(s) send him a better offer, so let's wait to see what will happen after.

Craig case is also determined with the price and his ambition but after Beasley and Juancho instant success in Minnesota, I guess many in NBA thinks that Nuggets bench players underperform due to lack of playing time and a real chance, and is worth to gamble with a small stake (but still too big for us to match). He is not a big magnet to anyone, but still, the 2020 FA market is far weaker than 2019, so just like in Plumlee and Millsap case I see better offer for Craig from some other team.

About Dozier, Vonleh, and Daniels cases are too early to speak, because their destiny with Nuggets depending on their display in August, and if no some unexpected injury, nobody of them will get too many minutes.
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Post#10 » by The Rebel » Thu Aug 6, 2020 2:07 am

I think Grant is going to be the 1st and biggest priority. If MPJ is your answer at SF, than you have to have a defensive guy that can defend good SF/PF types that play more perimeter. Jokic is okay against the guys like Aldridge but he has no chance against the smaller quicker perimeter types, and I doubt MPJ is ever going to be a great defender. So Grant is a long term fit.

I think they would like to bring back on of Millsap or Plumlee, and in this market this summer who knows if they can, but I think based on the pre-covid market they both get too much money.

I think Craig gets overpaid by someone which is fine with me. I think he has become overrated as all hell, and defensive specialists with a very limited offensive skill set seem to be available in the Gleague and internationally.

Daniels I think will go elsewhere, he is showing good enough skills that he some team with no depth at SG will bring him in and make him the 9th or 10th man type. I think he will take the opportunity.

I think Dozier is already set to come back.

I also think we keep Vonleh. There have been rumors we tried to get him from New York and of course got him from Minny. He will likely get another deal for the minimum, and I think he would be fine as the 5th/6th big.

The big question is do we use the MLE as we will need at least another proven backup big?
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Post#11 » by skywalker33 » Yesterday 12:31 am

I am very surprised so many see Mason Plumlee as a high probability of returning, to me he seems unlikely to hold his mins on the court given his current salary and vet minimum seems unlikely too. We could find a cheaper backup, play Grant perhaps even Bol for limited mins at C but I would not be unhappy to see his lack of free throw shooting go bye-bye.

I definitely feel we're going to resign Grant as the starting PF while MPJ is already pushing Barton out of the starting SF next year but does he go to the bench or take over Harris' SG position ?? Where does TC fit in ?? Deep on the bench or let to test the free agency ?

I'd also bring up Bol's development, does he play PF, C or SF or all of the above ? If PF, do we say goodbye to Millsap and his defense and if SF (he has the shooting ability IMO), again what happens to TC ?

The answers may be determined by this year's playoff performances, could impact who gets traded and what positions we're looking at in the 2020 draft.
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