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TunaFish wrote:There is a lot of talk about Simmons and the Kings. It appears that the Kings may want to move just about anybody on their roster, including Fox. Bagley is a bust, plain and simple. I don't think anyone is trading for him. Fox has regressed and Hield is shooter who can't guard. The Kings roster is filled with mismatched pieces that have serious flaws in their game. Certainly they have no stars that would interest the Sixers.

The Sixers may need to move Simmons but they aren't caving. Word is that they turned down an offer of Brogden and Levert. If that is true, I don't think any package from the Kings can match that offer. In fact, I am not sure what offers the sixers would entertain, outside of Jaylen Brown who is not on the move.

The Nuggets have few tradable assets (that they are willing to trade). JaMychal Green has regressed, Bol is not playing and Campazzo has not been an asset this season. If any trade is being proposed using these three as the bait, then good luck finding a trade. At the same time, I would love to see JaMychal and Campazzo moved. I just don't see it happening.

If the Kings will give up Fox all the better, but I think the 76ers are going to start getting desperate as well. Embiid is going to miss about 20 games likely this year, and even when he does play they are going to lose many of them, Morey will be burned in the streets if the 76ers miss the playoffs while he is playing games with Simmons and his agent.

If I remember the rumor, Simmons for Brogden and Levert fell apart because Morey wanted picks and I don't blame him, I cannot for the life of me figure out what everybody sees in Levert? Take a look at his shooting efficiency and look at how Morey builds his teams. He is not a Morey type of player. Brogdon is a good player, but he is not someone that Morey is going to trade Simmons for. Eventually Morey is going to have to accept he isn't getting a superstar in return, so he is going to have to look for help now and picks. I would not be surprised to see the 76ers end up a playin team, and with a relatively healthy Embiid that is not going to go over well in Philly.

The Rebel wrote:

TunaFish wrote:There is a lot of talk about Simmons and the Kings. It appears that the Kings may want to move just about anybody on their roster, including Fox. Bagley is a bust, plain and simple. I don't think anyone is trading for him. Fox has regressed and Hield is shooter who can't guard. The Kings roster is filled with mismatched pieces that have serious flaws in their game. Certainly they have no stars that would interest the Sixers.

The Sixers may need to move Simmons but they aren't caving. Word is that they turned down an offer of Brogden and Levert. If that is true, I don't think any package from the Kings can match that offer. In fact, I am not sure what offers the sixers would entertain, outside of Jaylen Brown who is not on the move.

The Nuggets have few tradable assets (that they are willing to trade). JaMychal Green has regressed, Bol is not playing and Campazzo has not been an asset this season. If any trade is being proposed using these three as the bait, then good luck finding a trade. At the same time, I would love to see JaMychal and Campazzo moved. I just don't see it happening.

If the Kings will give up Fox all the better, but I think the 76ers are going to start getting desperate as well. Embiid is going to miss about 20 games likely this year, and even when he does play they are going to lose many of them, Morey will be burned in the streets if the 76ers miss the playoffs while he is playing games with Simmons and his agent.

If I remember the rumor, Simmons for Brogden and Levert fell apart because Morey wanted picks and I don't blame him, I cannot for the life of me figure out what everybody sees in Levert? Take a look at his shooting efficiency and look at how Morey builds his teams. He is not a Morey type of player. Brogdon is a good player, but he is not someone that Morey is going to trade Simmons for. Eventually Morey is going to have to accept he isn't getting a superstar in return, so he is going to have to look for help now and picks. I would not be surprised to see the 76ers end up a playin team, and with a relatively healthy Embiid that is not going to go over well in Philly.

Levert (when healthy) can give some scoring punch and can play some defense unlike Hield. So can Brogden. Health is still an issue, however. I think the consensus around the league is that the Brogden/Levert package is ahead of anything the Kings have to offer, unless you add in Fox. What little I have seen of Fox has been disappointing but he has more value than anyone else on the Kings's roster. I think Morey would take a deal involving Fox over anything Indiana has to offer.

Morey is hard to figure. Waiting for a better offer seems to be his strategy but it helps the Sixers that Maxey has stepped up at point guard.

Have to agree that Morey may start feeling more heat, relatively soon if the Sixers flounder.

What sort of disabled players exemption are we going to get? That could be interesting with the buyout market if we can hold in solid in the playoff picture.

Not much, as the provision allows the team to use money that is equal to 50 percent of the injured player’s salary. In case MPJ is something around 2.6M and PJ Dozier is 0.95M

I would rather cast young players with potential to earn a roster spot long term (and lowcost) rather than seeking vets in a year with first round exit as best case scenario

Davon Reed back on the roster, remember he had a decent SL. Projected to be a 2-way SF, we'll see.

Opportunity for Reed will be there.

Torrey Craig sure would be nice right now.

The guy I really wanted 2 drafts ago who must not have been anywhere close to as good as I thought was Cassius Stanley. Didn’t play hardly at all rookie season last year and didn’t even make the pacers this season

So all the pacers scrub sg/sf’s fit…. Uh oh. If the pacers did like Orlando last year and did a sell everyone off, it might still be too costly but really wonder how perfect a fit Malcom Brogdon would fit on the Nugs?

Brogdon for Barton, monte Morris, 1st?

Is Cancar hurt or just not able to get any PT?


Really thought coming into this season that Cancar could “breakout” if given the opportunity. Hate that mpj and PJ Dozier are injured but should at least find out about Cancar

Coeur wrote:Is Cancar hurt or just not able to get any PT?


Really thought coming into this season that Cancar could “breakout” if given the opportunity. Hate that mpj and PJ Dozier are injured but should at least find out about Cancar

Received garbage time mins today...

skywalker33 wrote:

Coeur wrote:Is Cancar hurt or just not able to get any PT?


Really thought coming into this season that Cancar could “breakout” if given the opportunity. Hate that mpj and PJ Dozier are injured but should at least find out about Cancar

Received garbage time mins today...

He had been out the previous games with a ankle injury.

Mathurin 6-6 SG Arizona

Moore 6-5 G Duke

Anton Watson 6-9 F Gonzaga



Nugs have hit really well in the last 2 drafts with Nnaji and Bones. I still think Nugs pick in 2022 draft ends up in the 20’s but not out of line to guess 18-22? Any 22 draft prospects that seem like perfect future Nugs ?

Coeur wrote:Mathurin 6-6 SG Arizona

Moore 6-5 G Duke

Anton Watson 6-9 F Gonzaga



Nugs have hit really well in the last 2 drafts with Nnaji and Bones. I still think Nugs pick in 2022 draft ends up in the 20’s but not out of line to guess 18-22? Any 22 draft prospects that seem like perfect future Nugs ?

Paolo Banchero ??

skywalker33 wrote:

Coeur wrote:Mathurin 6-6 SG Arizona

Moore 6-5 G Duke

Anton Watson 6-9 F Gonzaga



Nugs have hit really well in the last 2 drafts with Nnaji and Bones. I still think Nugs pick in 2022 draft ends up in the 20’s but not out of line to guess 18-22? Any 22 draft prospects that seem like perfect future Nugs ?

Paolo Banchero ??

Nugs finishing 6-10th worst in the league more possible than I think? If Nugs are in lottery they’ll win it. I’m just leaving out top players which is stupid


Banchero would be a sick Nug. I like him #1 right now.

Mathurin seems almost a pick 20 possibility. And moore, Watson are my wishful thinking 2nd round /late 1st thoughts.


Banchero against Gonzaga was really telling. Best player in the country and unstoppable undisputed team #1 pick talent for as long as he went. Only lasts half of a game though. Does that mean Blake griffin career? I think he’s way more skilled potentially. Immediate man child game changer.


Chet is just going to keep playing. And get better sand better for a lot of years still.


Drew Timme is the most underrated player in this draft. He will be good right away in a lot of ways in the NBA. Nobody even mentions him and prob ends up a top 10 pick. He’s going to be national player of the year. Gonzaga will come storming back this year


Ivey from Purdue I like a lot. Think Mathurin will be better but along the same lines of impact on the Nugs. Ivey gets mentioned 5-14 pretty much everywhere


Ousmane Dieng 6-8 sg France , New Zealand Breakers


Roko P and Nikola Jovic are both top 10 picks super skilled
Duren and Nzosa are both Beast athletes at the Center spots in the top 10

Coeur wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:

Coeur wrote:Mathurin 6-6 SG Arizona

Moore 6-5 G Duke

Anton Watson 6-9 F Gonzaga



Nugs have hit really well in the last 2 drafts with Nnaji and Bones. I still think Nugs pick in 2022 draft ends up in the 20’s but not out of line to guess 18-22? Any 22 draft prospects that seem like perfect future Nugs ?

Paolo Banchero ??

Nugs finishing 6-10th worst in the league more possible than I think? If Nugs are in lottery they’ll win it. I’m just leaving out top players which is stupid


Banchero would be a sick Nug. I like him #1 right now.

Mathurin seems almost a pick 20 possibility. And moore, Watson are my wishful thinking 2nd round /late 1st thoughts.


Banchero against Gonzaga was really telling. Best player in the country and unstoppable undisputed team #1 pick talent for as long as he went. Only lasts half of a game though. Does that mean Blake griffin career? I think he’s way more skilled potentially. Immediate man child game changer.


Chet is just going to keep playing. And get better sand better for a lot of years still.


Drew Timme is the most underrated player in this draft. He will be good right away in a lot of ways in the NBA. Nobody even mentions him and prob ends up a top 10 pick. He’s going to be national player of the year. Gonzaga will come storming back this year


Ivey from Purdue I like a lot. Think Mathurin will be better but along the same lines of impact on the Nugs. Ivey gets mentioned 5-14 pretty much everywhere


Ousmane Dieng 6-8 sg France , New Zealand Breakers


Roko P and Nikola Jovic are both top 10 picks super skilled
Duren and Nzosa are both Beast athletes at the Center spots in the top 10

Still a LITTLE EARLY, but perhaps you'd like to start a 2022 NBA draft thread ??

skywalker33 wrote:

Coeur wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:
Paolo Banchero ??

Nugs finishing 6-10th worst in the league more possible than I think? If Nugs are in lottery they’ll win it. I’m just leaving out top players which is stupid


Banchero would be a sick Nug. I like him #1 right now.

Mathurin seems almost a pick 20 possibility. And moore, Watson are my wishful thinking 2nd round /late 1st thoughts.


Banchero against Gonzaga was really telling. Best player in the country and unstoppable undisputed team #1 pick talent for as long as he went. Only lasts half of a game though. Does that mean Blake griffin career? I think he’s way more skilled potentially. Immediate man child game changer.


Chet is just going to keep playing. And get better sand better for a lot of years still.


Drew Timme is the most underrated player in this draft. He will be good right away in a lot of ways in the NBA. Nobody even mentions him and prob ends up a top 10 pick. He’s going to be national player of the year. Gonzaga will come storming back this year


Ivey from Purdue I like a lot. Think Mathurin will be better but along the same lines of impact on the Nugs. Ivey gets mentioned 5-14 pretty much everywhere


Ousmane Dieng 6-8 sg France , New Zealand Breakers


Roko P and Nikola Jovic are both top 10 picks super skilled
Duren and Nzosa are both Beast athletes at the Center spots in the top 10

Still a LITTLE EARLY, but perhaps you'd like to start a 2022 NBA draft thread ??

Kendall Brown 6-8 sf/sg Baylor
Super athlete. I still want to see Nugs with a super athlete at the 2. This draft seems like Nugs best chances are at SG/SF. See Ben Mathurin, and maybe this guy as perfect future Nugs


With a healthy mpj if we ever get that I’d like to see a super athlete/finisher at both “pf” (AG50) and “sg” _______. If it’s AG and Nnaji at 3-4 same thing. Guess most obviously the “SG” of the future for nugs needs to be a 1-2 or 1-3 defender, and then hopefully both a shooter and finisher.


Jokic being the unique point-center as long as Murray comes back the same mean ball handling/Creator not as needed as D,3, finishing? ?


Nugs big 4 starters, plus Bones and Nnaji is how I see the team long term. PJ Dozier fits if he is ever to get past injured every year.

Barton, MonteMorris, Howard
For
Anfernee Simons and Bertans


Maybe Nugs and Wizards fill out Ben Simmons to Portland Trade?

An ideal opportunity to exchange dissatisfied Barton and MPJ for Simons, Gordon is an upgrade over MPJ, Highland enters the system better. You can find a better base in the market like Bertans.Philadelphia knows with the injured.

KKP wrote:An ideal opportunity to exchange dissatisfied Barton and MPJ for Simons, Gordon is an upgrade over MPJ, Highland enters the system better. You can find a better base in the market like Bertans.Philadelphia knows with the injured.

Well, what if we just like watching the implosion going on in PHI ???? And what is there to like about putting Simmons on the floor with Jokic (who needs shooters around him to make him the best version of himself) ?? If PHI was to add a 2023 1st I could see it, perhaps...

Coeur wrote:Barton, MonteMorris, Howard
For
Anfernee Simons and Bertans


Maybe Nugs and Wizards fill out Ben Simmons to Portland Trade?

One of the worst trade proposals I have read recently

Coeur wrote:Barton, MonteMorris, Howard
For
Anfernee Simons and Bertans


Maybe Nugs and Wizards fill out Ben Simmons to Portland Trade?

I wouldn't trade Morris straight up for Simon, adding Barton and Bertans is just insulting.

KKP wrote:An ideal opportunity to exchange dissatisfied Barton and MPJ for Simons, Gordon is an upgrade over MPJ, Highland enters the system better. You can find a better base in the market like Bertans.Philadelphia knows with the injured.

Gordon is not an upgrade on a healthy MPJ, and we are not trading Barton and MPJ for Simons, hell I wouldn't do that deal for Simmons either. You guys are not getting bailed out by giving us junk for good players regardless of injury.