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OK, with TC moving on, here's YOUR chance to position yourself as the next great GM. Place your REALISTIC trades here to see if you can make this team better, tell us who you'd sign (if feasible, we don't have a lot of options there) or add your draft choices at #21 or ??? Please, if you want to comment, please be respectful, hopefully, inciteful and be realistic about it (no Cancar for AD trades). We're all Nuggets fans here, let's get creative and have some fun with it.


OK, I'll start with a couple, this one has been wandering through my mind for a day or so

DEN trade Will Barton and #21 to ORL for Terrance Ross, RJ Hampton and #32.

DEN moves out of the 1st rd to get a defensive minded SG in Ross, return of combo guard Hampton and a high 2nd. Ross already has a feel for AG's game, Hampton was getting buried in ORL (hearing they may trade back from #1 for SG Sharpe which would bury him further down the depth chart) and then with the 2nd we make a move for C Walker Kessler as a backup C, a rim protector and could replace Boogie if he leaves. If we can't draft Kessler, I also like SF David Roddy out of CSU.

OR

Denver trades PG Monte Morris and #21 to CHA to move up to #15 and PG Ish Smith (waived) where they select SG Malaki Branham.
Feels like CHA want to move on from Rozier and they'll need a good backup there. Morris is a sold player who can obvious fill in as a starter, could fit the mold for them whil just moving back 6 spots. For DEN, Branham shows some scoring outburts that will allow us to move Barton (whether this season or next) to the bench or ??. Bones can easily replace MM as Murray's backup so should be a smooth transistion trade plus will ease our Luxury Tax bill .

skywalker33 wrote:OK, with TC moving on, here's YOUR chance to position yourself as the next great GM. Place your REALISTIC trades here to see if you can make this team better, tell us who you'd sign (if feasible, we don't have a lot of options there) or add your draft choices at #21 or ??? Please, if you want to comment, please be respectful, hopefully, inciteful and be realistic about it (no Cancar for AD trades). We're all Nuggets fans here, let's get creative and have some fun with it.


OK, I'll start with a couple, this one has been wandering through my mind for a day or so

DEN trade Will Barton and #21 to ORL for Terrance Ross, RJ Hampton and #32.

DEN moves out of the 1st rd to get a defensive minded SG in Ross, return of combo guard Hampton and a high 2nd. Ross already has a feel for AG's game, Hampton was getting buried in ORL (hearing they may trade back from #1 for SG Sharpe which would bury him further down the depth chart) and then with the 2nd we make a move for C Walker Kessler as a backup C, a rim protector and could replace Boogie if he leaves. If we can't draft Kessler, I also like SF David Roddy out of CSU.

OR

Denver trades PG Monte Morris and #21 to CHA to move up to #15 and PG Ish Smith (waived) where they select SG Malaki Branham.
Feels like CHA want to move on from Rozier and they'll need a good backup there. Morris is a sold player who can obvious fill in as a starter, could fit the mold for them whil just moving back 6 spots. For DEN, Branham shows some scoring outburts that will allow us to move Barton (whether this season or next) to the bench or ??. Bones can easily replace MM as Murray's backup so should be a smooth transistion trade plus will ease our Luxury Tax bill .

Really don’t like trade 1 even as much as I’d like Barton traded. Pick 21 is too good of a spot and too important to move out of

Trade 2 I really like the idea of. Really don’t like who you picked. But overall idea of using Monte Morris to move up a few picks and target Of SG both really good ideas

My choice of draft guys at 21 or with a small trade up is Kendall Brown or Marjon Beauchamp

Coeur wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:OK, with TC moving on, here's YOUR chance to position yourself as the next great GM. Place your REALISTIC trades here to see if you can make this team better, tell us who you'd sign (if feasible, we don't have a lot of options there) or add your draft choices at #21 or ??? Please, if you want to comment, please be respectful, hopefully, inciteful and be realistic about it (no Cancar for AD trades). We're all Nuggets fans here, let's get creative and have some fun with it.


OK, I'll start with a couple, this one has been wandering through my mind for a day or so

DEN trade Will Barton and #21 to ORL for Terrance Ross, RJ Hampton and #32.

DEN moves out of the 1st rd to get a defensive minded SG in Ross, return of combo guard Hampton and a high 2nd. Ross already has a feel for AG's game, Hampton was getting buried in ORL (hearing they may trade back from #1 for SG Sharpe which would bury him further down the depth chart) and then with the 2nd we make a move for C Walker Kessler as a backup C, a rim protector and could replace Boogie if he leaves. If we can't draft Kessler, I also like SF David Roddy out of CSU.

OR

Denver trades PG Monte Morris and #21 to CHA to move up to #15 and PG Ish Smith (waived) where they select SG Malaki Branham.
Feels like CHA want to move on from Rozier and they'll need a good backup there. Morris is a sold player who can obvious fill in as a starter, and could fit the mold for them while just moving back 6 spots. For DEN, Branham shows some scoring outbursts that will allow us to move Barton (whether this season or next) to the bench or ??. Bones can easily replace MM as Murray's backup so should be a smooth transition trade plus will ease our Luxury Tax bill .

Really don’t like trade 1 even as much as I’d like Barton traded. Pick 21 is too good of a spot and too important to move out of

Trade 2 I really like the idea of. Really don’t like who you picked. But overall idea of using Monte Morris to move up a few picks and target Of SG both really good ideas

My choice of draft guys at 21 or with a small trade up is Kendall Brown or Marjon Beauchamp

Well, I knew not everyone will agree, others on this site are MUCH better at trade proposals than I, Coeur. Some more thoughts behind trade One. Trading down to get Ross and Hampton while displacing Barton's ego on this team makes sense to me. Moving 21 is hard either as I feel we're in a win-now window. Rather than bring a rookie we'll have to develop doesn't make a lot of sense, as we already have Nnaji and Hyland coming along, so bringing Hampton back (he was the 24th selection for us in 2021) would still bring in a talented young guard yet he already has some NBA experience. He really was not able to show that talent in a crowded ORL backcourt. Ross brings the level of defense that Will doesn't and is on an expiring (so does Will's) contract so we can get a look-see at a couple of different players.

You said you didn't like the Branham, you'd prefer Beauchamp over him ?? Can you expound on that one ?? And while I've looked at Brown, I just don't see him as more than a good, solid backup at SF and he's not that good defensively. Personally, I feel like Branham showed much more at the SG position in just one year than (although MarJon was playing against grown men) Beauchamp, higher ceiling IMO. Nothing more than conjecture, but I do a little research, as a draftnik, it's in my DNA.

I appreciate you joining in the conversation, do you have any trades you'd like to discuss ?

skywalker33 wrote:

OK, I'll start with a couple, this one has been wandering through my mind for a day or so

DEN trade Will Barton and #21 to ORL for Terrance Ross, RJ Hampton and #32.

DEN moves out of the 1st rd to get a defensive minded SG in Ross, return of combo guard Hampton and a high 2nd. Ross already has a feel for AG's game, Hampton was getting buried in ORL (hearing they may trade back from #1 for SG Sharpe which would bury him further down the depth chart) and then with the 2nd we make a move for C Walker Kessler as a backup C, a rim protector and could replace Boogie if he leaves. If we can't draft Kessler, I also like SF David Roddy out of CSU.

I posted a similar trade to this in the other thread, I personally think if it cost us a pick the Magic would prefer one down the road, they have too much young talent to develop everybody right now. Ross has also made it clear that he wants traded, he made comments leaving the exit interviews saying the Magic know he doesn't want to be there.

skywalker33 wrote:OR

Denver trades PG Monte Morris and #21 to CHA to move up to #15 and PG Ish Smith (waived) where they select SG Malaki Branham.
Feels like CHA want to move on from Rozier and they'll need a good backup there. Morris is a sold player who can obvious fill in as a starter, could fit the mold for them whil just moving back 6 spots. For DEN, Branham shows some scoring outburts that will allow us to move Barton (whether this season or next) to the bench or ??. Bones can easily replace MM as Murray's backup so should be a smooth transistion trade plus will ease our Luxury Tax bill .

I think you are dramatically underrating Morris's value. Hell we gave up a 2nd for Forbes and Forbes isn't close to Morris in value. Off the top of my head the last guy like MOrris that was traded was George Hill straight up for the 15th pick. I would make the argument though that it makes more sense to find a proven defensive SG for Morris as he has the most value of anybody we can afford to lose this summer.

The Rebel wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:
Denver trades PG Monte Morris and #21 to CHA to move up to #15 and PG Ish Smith (waived) where they select SG Malaki Branham.
Feels like CHA want to move on from Rozier and they'll need a good backup there. Morris is a sold player who can obvious fill in as a starter, could fit the mold for them whil just moving back 6 spots. For DEN, Branham shows some scoring outburts that will allow us to move Barton (whether this season or next) to the bench or ??. Bones can easily replace MM as Murray's backup so should be a smooth transistion trade plus will ease our Luxury Tax bill .

I think you are dramatically underrating Morris's value. Hell we gave up a 2nd for Forbes and Forbes isn't close to Morris in value. Off the top of my head the last guy like MOrris that was traded was George Hill straight up for the 15th pick. I would make the argument though that it makes more sense to find a proven defensive SG for Morris as he has the most value of anybody we can afford to lose this summer.

Well, you may be right about MM's value but with Bones ready to replace him and returning the value of Branham (who I believe has a high ceiling), I'd still be looking to do this. Perhaps we could also ask for a 2nd as well, that seems like it would balance out the trade.

What I would do if I could get the Kroenkes drunk enough to sign off on it at the draft and the 1st week of free agency.

Denver out Morris, Barton, JaMychael Green for Gordon Hayward, 13th overall pick, 2026 Jazz 1st round pick, Jazz 2025 2nd round pick

Jazz trade Conley, 2026 1st round pick, 2025 2nd round pick for Morris and Barton

They get an off ball PG that can fit with Mitchell and Barton gives them a bench scorer to take some pressure off of Clarkson.

Hornets trade Gordon Hayward and the 13th overall pick for Conley and Green

Use TPE created from that deal for Denver sending out the 21st overall pick for RJ Hampton and the 32nd overall pick.

Sign Victor Oladipo for the tax payer MLE

Sign Goran Dragic, Dozier, and Cousins for minimum deals

Use bird rights to sign Cancar to a 2 year $5 million deal

Murray/ Bones/ Dragic
Oladipo/ Dozier/ Hampton/ 1st round pick
Gordon/ Hayward/ Jeff Green
MPJ/ Nnaji/ Cancar
Jokic/ Cousins/ 2nd round pick

These moves guarantee the Nuggets will be paying the tax for the foreseeable future but I think it firmly puts us as contenders. Between MPJ and Gordon Hayward you should have a good scoring forward in the starting lineup at all time next to Gordon, Oladipo is a very good defender even after the injuries, and between Dozier, Nnaji, and Hampton we have some solid perimeter defenders off the bench.

The Rebel wrote:Murray/ Bones/ Dragic
Oladipo/ Dozier/ Hampton/ 1st round pick
Gordon/ Hayward/ Jeff Green
MPJ/ Nnaji/ Cancar
Jokic/ Cousins/ 2nd round pick

These moves guarantee the Nuggets will be paying the tax for the foreseeable future but I think it firmly puts us as contenders.

There's almost double digit of injury prone (or just injured) players there, looks interesting in theory, but I wouldn't bet that team lasting a single regular season, let alone playoffs without a few of them missing significant time.

[quote="The Rebel"

Sign Victor Oladipo for the tax payer MLE

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Oladipo is intriguing because of his past all-defense rating. He has looked good at times for Miami in the playoffs and he may have a lot of suitors with larger cap space who will pay more than the MLE.

This is the move I would for sure make unless someone outbids us.

Richard Miller wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Murray/ Bones/ Dragic
Oladipo/ Dozier/ Hampton/ 1st round pick
Gordon/ Hayward/ Jeff Green
MPJ/ Nnaji/ Cancar
Jokic/ Cousins/ 2nd round pick

These moves guarantee the Nuggets will be paying the tax for the foreseeable future but I think it firmly puts us as contenders.

There's almost double digit of injury prone (or just injured) players there, looks interesting in theory, but I wouldn't bet that team lasting a single regular season, let alone playoffs without a few of them missing significant time.

The way I see it is even if you lose 1 if the guards and 1 if the forwards you have plenty of depth that you still have everything you need especially with a shortened playoff rotation.

TunaFish wrote:

The Rebel wrote:
Sign Victor Oladipo for the tax payer MLE

Oladipo is intriguing because of his past all-defense rating. He has looked good at times for Miami in the playoffs and he may have a lot of suitors with larger cap space who will pay more than the MLE.

This is the move I would for sure make unless someone outbids us.

With as much time as Oladipo has missed I thought the full taxpayer MLE would be his top market value but I guess we will have to wait and see.

The Rebel wrote:What I would do if I could get the Kroenkes drunk enough to sign off on it at the draft and the 1st week of free agency.

Denver out Morris, Barton, JaMychael Green for Gordon Hayward, 13th overall pick, 2026 Jazz 1st round pick, Jazz 2025 2nd round pick

Jazz trade Conley, 2026 1st round pick, 2025 2nd round pick for Morris and Barton

They get an off ball PG that can fit with Mitchell and Barton gives them a bench scorer to take some pressure off of Clarkson.

Hornets trade Gordon Hayward and the 13th overall pick for Conley and Green

Use TPE created from that deal for Denver sending out the 21st overall pick for RJ Hampton and the 32nd overall pick.

Sign Victor Oladipo for the tax payer MLE

Sign Goran Dragic, Dozier, and Cousins for minimum deals

Use bird rights to sign Cancar to a 2 year $5 million deal

Murray/ Bones/ Dragic
Oladipo/ Dozier/ Hampton/ 1st round pick
Gordon/ Hayward/ Jeff Green
MPJ/ Nnaji/ Cancar
Jokic/ Cousins/ 2nd round pick

These moves guarantee the Nuggets will be paying the tax for the foreseeable future but I think it firmly puts us as contenders. Between MPJ and Gordon Hayward you should have a good scoring forward in the starting lineup at all time next to Gordon, Oladipo is a very good defender even after the injuries, and between Dozier, Nnaji, and Hampton we have some solid perimeter defenders off the bench.

Well Rebel, you know I love your trades and the complete outside the box thinking be on this.

As Richard pointed out, this off-season has a LOT of injury risk, but it feels like the talented depth offsets much of that risk, many more playmakers you brought in.

Can’t say I’m a big fan of Dragic but he certainly bring serious veteran leadership which would likely pay some bigger dividends down the road. And resigning Cancar just to bury him on this roster, great for Jokic, not sure I’d do it if I’m Cancar.

Absolutely LOVE the Hampton addition as well as obtaining a late lottery pick, both would be huge down the road.

And I could also see Oladipo loving this opportunity here, Jokic would help him regain his star status

Richard Miller wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Murray/ Bones/ Dragic
Oladipo/ Dozier/ Hampton/ 1st round pick
Gordon/ Hayward/ Jeff Green
MPJ/ Nnaji/ Cancar
Jokic/ Cousins/ 2nd round pick

These moves guarantee the Nuggets will be paying the tax for the foreseeable future but I think it firmly puts us as contenders.

There's almost double digit of injury prone (or just injured) players there, looks interesting in theory, but I wouldn't bet that team lasting a single regular season, let alone playoffs without a few of them missing significant time.

Agreed but the talent AND depth would balance much of that risk. And tell me one team that doesn’t deal with injuries throughout the season ?

skywalker33 wrote:Agreed but the talent AND depth would balance much of that risk. And tell me one team that doesn’t deal with injuries throughout the season ?

It's more than just "dealing with injuries", how many of the above guys played 65+ games last season? Four (and one of those is 36 yr old JG). That's it. Five if you lower it to 60+. That's way too much risk imo.

Richard Miller wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:Agreed but the talent AND depth would balance much of that risk. And tell me one team that doesn’t deal with injuries throughout the season ?

It's more than just "dealing with injuries", how many of the above guys played 65+ games last season? Four (and one of those is 36 yr old JG). That's it. Five if you lower it to 60+. That's way too much risk imo.

You say the risk is too high, I say the lack of talent on this roster makes risks necessary if we are going to win anything. While Jokic is the MVP, a healthy Murray is amazing in big games, MPJ has huge upside, our bench and lack of talent outside of our top 4 is terrible. Fact is we have 6 contender quality rotation players, and if Dozier comes back we have 7 but that includes several that have missed considerable time.

I would argue the Warriors, Celtics, Bucks, Clippers, and several other teams have considerably more talent than we do when comparing whole rosters. We of course have the best at the top, but it is arguable whether we have any of the next top 4 when comparing to other contenders, so we are going to have add some talent some how. You may be right that this is too much, but building a team that can survive losing 2 guys for the end of the season may be the only hope we have.

skywalker33 wrote:

The Rebel wrote:What I would do if I could get the Kroenkes drunk enough to sign off on it at the draft and the 1st week of free agency.

Denver out Morris, Barton, JaMychael Green for Gordon Hayward, 13th overall pick, 2026 Jazz 1st round pick, Jazz 2025 2nd round pick

Jazz trade Conley, 2026 1st round pick, 2025 2nd round pick for Morris and Barton

They get an off ball PG that can fit with Mitchell and Barton gives them a bench scorer to take some pressure off of Clarkson.

Hornets trade Gordon Hayward and the 13th overall pick for Conley and Green

Use TPE created from that deal for Denver sending out the 21st overall pick for RJ Hampton and the 32nd overall pick.

Sign Victor Oladipo for the tax payer MLE

Sign Goran Dragic, Dozier, and Cousins for minimum deals

Use bird rights to sign Cancar to a 2 year $5 million deal

Murray/ Bones/ Dragic
Oladipo/ Dozier/ Hampton/ 1st round pick
Gordon/ Hayward/ Jeff Green
MPJ/ Nnaji/ Cancar
Jokic/ Cousins/ 2nd round pick

These moves guarantee the Nuggets will be paying the tax for the foreseeable future but I think it firmly puts us as contenders. Between MPJ and Gordon Hayward you should have a good scoring forward in the starting lineup at all time next to Gordon, Oladipo is a very good defender even after the injuries, and between Dozier, Nnaji, and Hampton we have some solid perimeter defenders off the bench.

Well Rebel, you know I love your trades and the complete outside the box thinking be on this.

As Richard pointed out, this off-season has a LOT of injury risk, but it feels like the talented depth offsets much of that risk, many more playmakers you brought in.

Can’t say I’m a big fan of Dragic but he certainly bring serious veteran leadership which would likely pay some bigger dividends down the road. And resigning Cancar just to bury him on this roster, great for Jokic, not sure I’d do it if I’m Cancar.

Absolutely LOVE the Hampton addition as well as obtaining a late lottery pick, both would be huge down the road.

And I could also see Oladipo loving this opportunity here, Jokic would help him regain his star status

Thank you.

Dragic is coming on because we need a veteran 3rd PG incase Murray struggles or injuries, someone that can capably play 20 minutes a game but isn't going to bitch if he sees no minutes for weeks at a time.

Cancar is good depth, I have told you before that I can see him being a do it all hustle guy, and still think he fits that role. HE may not be thrilled with it, but I think he gets plenty of minutes with that lineup.

I think Oladipo's star power is never coming back, he is an undersized SG and just turned 30, if he will accept his role and takes his opportunities when they come than I believe he has a few years left of being a good role player with good to solid defense, which is all we really now.

The Rebel wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:Agreed but the talent AND depth would balance much of that risk. And tell me one team that doesn’t deal with injuries throughout the season ?

It's more than just "dealing with injuries", how many of the above guys played 65+ games last season? Four (and one of those is 36 yr old JG). That's it. Five if you lower it to 60+. That's way too much risk imo.

You say the risk is too high, I say the lack of talent on this roster makes risks necessary if we are going to win anything. While Jokic is the MVP, a healthy Murray is amazing in big games, MPJ has huge upside, our bench and lack of talent outside of our top 4 is terrible. Fact is we have 6 contender quality rotation players, and if Dozier comes back we have 7 but that includes several that have missed considerable time.

I would argue the Warriors, Celtics, Bucks, Clippers, and several other teams have considerably more talent than we do when comparing whole rosters. We of course have the best at the top, but it is arguable whether we have any of the next top 4 when comparing to other contenders, so we are going to have add some talent some how. You may be right that this is too much, but building a team that can survive losing 2 guys for the end of the season may be the only hope we have.

I'm not saying they don't need talent, just that such talent should be reasonably healthy or as they say availability is the best ability. PJ for example was injured end of November, so I don't think he will play a single game before late January/early February or so, and unlikely to be ready for playoffs, so basically waste of roster spot in 2022/23.
Dragic is 36 and the last he played a full season was like 2017/18 (same goes for Oladipo) - and if there's any hiccups with Jamal's recovery, you could easily end up with Bones-Hampton back court.
I may be wrong, but I think with TC gone there will be considerably less experimenting (ultra small lineups/no backup C etc) and taking flyers on risky options (Facu/Bol). Anyway looking forward to what they are going to do.

Richard Miller wrote:

The Rebel wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
It's more than just "dealing with injuries", how many of the above guys played 65+ games last season? Four (and one of those is 36 yr old JG). That's it. Five if you lower it to 60+. That's way too much risk imo.

You say the risk is too high, I say the lack of talent on this roster makes risks necessary if we are going to win anything. While Jokic is the MVP, a healthy Murray is amazing in big games, MPJ has huge upside, our bench and lack of talent outside of our top 4 is terrible. Fact is we have 6 contender quality rotation players, and if Dozier comes back we have 7 but that includes several that have missed considerable time.

I would argue the Warriors, Celtics, Bucks, Clippers, and several other teams have considerably more talent than we do when comparing whole rosters. We of course have the best at the top, but it is arguable whether we have any of the next top 4 when comparing to other contenders, so we are going to have add some talent some how. You may be right that this is too much, but building a team that can survive losing 2 guys for the end of the season may be the only hope we have.

I'm not saying they don't need talent, just that such talent should be reasonably healthy or as they say availability is the best ability. PJ for example was injured end of November, so I don't think he will play a single game before late January/early February or so, and unlikely to be ready for playoffs, so basically waste of roster spot in 2022/23.
Dragic is 36 and the last he played a full season was like 2017/18 (same goes for Oladipo) - and if there's any hiccups with Jamal's recovery, you could easily end up with Bones-Hampton back court.
I may be wrong, but I think with TC gone there will be considerably less experimenting (ultra small lineups/no backup C etc) and taking flyers on risky options (Facu/Bol). Anyway looking forward to what they are going to do.

Most players are back in 8-12 months from an ACL, Murray had a bad setback with the gleague team that was reported and then never talked about, so I would expect Dozier back by November.

Dragic was healthy all of last year, he and the Raptors agreed for him to sit out until they bought him out. Even if Murray struggles with Jokic and Hayward you don't need a true PG.

How about we go with Cousins and the kids off the bench? This team is obviously cheaper and not as much proven talent but it has some good upside.
Denver trades Will Barton for Terrance Ross, RJ Hampton

Orlando trades Ross and Hampton for Will Barton

Ross openly demanded at trade coming out of the end of the season, he wants out, Hampton seems to be the odd man out. This move gets them an expiring in Barton who can help keep the locker room attitude good while they develop their young guys.

Denver out JaMychael Green, Monte Morris, and 21st overall pick for Kemba Walker, Cam Reddish, Jaden McDaniels, and the 11th overall pick, and 48th overall pick


New York Burks, Walker, and Reddish, 11th overall pick for Monte Morris, Malik Beasley, and the 21st overall pick

The Knicks turn Walker’s bad contract, and 2 guys that Thibs doesn’t seem to like into a new starting PG, a 3 point shooter which they need to spread the floor, for the cost of moving back 10 picks in the draft.


Minnesota trades McDaniels, Beasley, and 48th overall pick for JaMychael Green and Alec Burks.

The Twolves desperately need an upgrade at PF and a veteran guard off the bench to help stabilize the bench when their young stars are off the court.

Re-sign Cancar using bird rights, re-sign Cousins

Use the other 2 way deal to sign best available G league combo guard.


Denver
Murray/ Hyland/ Walker/ 2 way deal
Ross/ Hampton/ 11th overall pick
Gordon/ Reddish/ Cancar
MPJ/ Jeff Green/ Nnaji/ McDaniels
Jokic/ Cousins/ 48th overall pick (2 way deal)


With Walker's bad knee he cannot hold up for a full season but he can play 20 mpg here and there due to minor injuries, with worst case being Hampton or the 2 way having to take over backup PG duties at times. This team is going to have a good defensive bench, and will be able to score in streaks, but they have enough upside that if things click we could have a very strong bench by the end of the season.

The Rebel wrote:Most players are back in 8-12 months from an ACL, Murray had a bad setback with the gleague team that was reported and then never talked about, so I would expect Dozier back by November.

I wouldn't be so sure. LaVine was back after one year (somewhere in late January) and said in an interview he was around 70% at best and didn't feel completely himself before the next season, i.e. nearly some 20 months later and now he's had a surgery again. PJ already had an ACL tear in his high school and you're counting on him in November? I'd steer clear from that. Besides, they have Reed and when both healthy I'm not sure PJ is the better player anyway.

Richard Miller wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Most players are back in 8-12 months from an ACL, Murray had a bad setback with the gleague team that was reported and then never talked about, so I would expect Dozier back by November.

I wouldn't be so sure. LaVine was back after one year (somewhere in late January) and said in an interview he was around 70% at best and didn't feel completely himself before the next season, i.e. nearly some 20 months later and now he's had a surgery again. PJ already had an ACL tear in his high school and you're counting on him in November? I'd steer clear from that. Besides, they have Reed and when both healthy I'm not sure PJ is the better player anyway.

You also have to look at Klay Thompson. He had consecutive ACL surgeries (one on each leg) yet has come back to average 20ppg this year, helping his team to the Finals for the 6th time

As for PJ, he was looking/expected to take that next big leap forward just prior to his injury, but we never got to see if that would indeed happen. And I too really like Reed, just not sure how/why Malone never gained confidence enough to give him minutes, in my mind he was producing enough to usurp the mins PJ was getting.