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Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Tue Aug 9, 2022 5:37 pm
by NuggetsWY
one website says: Suns - Grizzlies - Warriors - Mavericks - Jazz ---- Nuggets 6th in the West?

another website: Warriors ---- Nuggets 2nd in the West?

yet another: Lakers - Warriors - Grizzlies - Mavericks - Suns - Clippers ---- Nuggets 7th in the West?

and no doubt prognosticators have many other ratings.

*** Let me begin by saying I do not believe either L.A. team will be ahead of Denver in the standings at year's end.
The Jazz have made a major change -- leaving room for doubt.
The Mavericks are potentially better but IMO they seem to still be lacking something.

If the Warriors have everyone healthy, and if Denver has everyone healthy --- this might be the top two in the West.

and I'd make the Grizzles for the darkhouse to make it into the top-2.

There's always room for a surprise but I'd be shocked if the Nuggets don't end up in the top-4 and honestly believe they'll be a contender, a serious contender for #1 in the West.

Then again, that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before. :cowboy:

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Tue Aug 9, 2022 7:05 pm
by TunaFish
At full strength with no injuries, I think the Nuggets are the best team in the league, not just the Western Conference. I don't say that lightly as a long time fan. The only prior Nuggets team that I thought had a realistic chance was in the David Thompson time frame. I was wrong then, in part because of what happened with Thompson but this current team has all the pieces.

With a two time MVP and two max contract players returning, the Nuggets should be a favorite.

The one team that I have trouble predicting is the Timberwolves. They could be really good but there is a strong argument that KAT and Gobert as centers may not fit well. Hard to say until we see them play.

The Suns will be good as well the Warriors but I still think the Nuggets are across the board better.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Tue Aug 9, 2022 8:26 pm
by skywalker33
Well, I think the only WC team that should be able to keep up with us is GSW. LAC has a lot of depth but a lot of injury history as well, no one really knows what Wall can bring, is Kawhi healthy/the same player, can PG13 stay healthy ?? And then there is age with CP3, LeDouche, what can AD and WB bring? I do like MEM but JJJ isn't going to be on that team for a while and Zion, I kinda liken him to Waldo, nobody knows where he's at. Then there TC and the new T-Pups, a lot of talent but can they put it all together ??

As Tuna stated, health is our biggest issue/unknown, I feel confident Murray will come back but MPJ, who knows yet. This team has acquired a TON of defensive talent which should really help us down the road, I'm very optimistic about getting a top 3 seed.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Tue Aug 9, 2022 8:47 pm
by Maf
First of all: Great to have you back!

Can´t really say. If I´d say we are top two, top three, I might end up dissapointed. So I´d rate it like this.

A- Teams I think they are better- Warriors and Suns. Good coaching, core together, they´re just good.
B- Teams who might be better if one guy has MVP-like season- Mavs and Grizzlies. Ja and Luka are able to make wonders.
C- Teams who might depend on health even more then us- Clippers and Pelicans. It´s like... Kawhi was a **** best. Zion showed he could be too. If they´re back in full strength? They could be really good. Someone could say hey, same for the Lakers! I doubt (hope they won´t)
D- Team I have no idea how they´ll make it work- Sotta. I don´t have good opinion about Russell or Anthony. Edwards is different story... I just can´t see how they´ll make it work with Gobert defending the paint and KAT chasing the smaller guys outside. I am not saying this cannot work. If they´ll figure it out, than Watch Out!


Don´t get me wrong. Of course I will cheer for Nuggets. Of course I will hope for the best. But off-season moves didn´t impress me (like paying 30 per 2 for guy I´d pay 20 per 3 max). I have no hope for MPJ staying healthy. Yes, I questioned Murray´s desire to come back last season. But mostly, years as Nugget fan tought me to not expect much. Less you expect the better. So if we´re TOP 4, second round, I´d be ok.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Tue Aug 9, 2022 10:58 pm
by Richard Miller
If they are fully healthy and Jokic/Murray rediscover their magic, the only team that worries me are the Clippers (if also fully healthy), others not as much.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:05 pm
by The Rebel
On one hand I am tired of hearing about how so many teams are better than the Nuggets roster we have right now. For some reason the Clippers especially piss me off since our team still gets so little credit for what we did to them in the bubble.

On the other I am glad we are underrated, it helps if it takes some time to get things gelled and everybody healthy.

Personally I think we are the best team in the league if we are healthy and get our chemistry back. The biggest opponent is the Warriors but I think losing OPJ and GPII is going to hurt them more than they realize.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:47 pm
by THE J0KER
One of my biggest arguments before the start of the 2022 playoff why I'm happy to see the Nuggets not rushing for Murray and MPJ's comeback was the fact that our projected 1st round opponent was HEALTHY Warriors, the best team in the West (it was my opinion, though I expected the title to stay on the East). So I don't care anymore about our seed like in the past when we don't have realistic chances against some teams without home court advantage. The most important thing is now to be healthy in April. Current Nuggets team when healthy is a true contender!

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:02 pm
by THE J0KER
KXX wrote:https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/win-totals/

Boston Celtics 55.5
Milwaukee Bucks 52.5
Phoenix Suns 52.5
Los Angeles Clippers 52.5
Golden State Warriors 51.5
Denver Nuggets 49.5
Philadelphia 76ers 49.5
Memphis Grizzlies 48.5
Dallas Mavericks 48.5
Miami Heat 48.5
Minnesota Timberwolves 47.5
Atlanta Hawks 46.5
Los Angeles Lakers 45.5
Brooklyn Nets 45.5
Spoiler:
New Orleans Pelicans 44.5
Toronto Raptors 44.5
Chicago Bulls 43.5
Cleveland Cavaliers 42.5
Portland Trail Blazers 40.5
New York Knicks 39.5
Charlotte Hornets 36.5
Washington Wizards 35.5
Utah Jazz 32.5
Sacramento Kings 32.5
Detroit Pistons 28.5
Oklahoma City Thunder 26.5
Orlando Magic 25.5
Indiana Pacers 24.5
Houston Rockets 23.5
San Antonio Spurs 23.5

Odds provided by DraftKings - Subject to Change - Updated: Wed., Aug. 10 - 4:30 p.m. ET

Looks fairly accurate IMO.

Interesting, Vegas bookmakers give much better chances for 2022-23 Nuggets to compete well during the regular season than during the playoff. Denver is listed as the #6 best team in the league when it comes to estimating regular season record, but just #10 according to winning NBA 2023 title odds. I find it pretty bizarre, because how on Earth you can expect a team to better produce in the regular season than in the playoff if there are realistic expectations that 6 out of 7 key players will play better AFTER the all-star break (including playoff) than before the all-star break (which is 70% of the regular season)??

Jokic traditionally has the cold start of the season before Christmas. Murray and MPJ coming from a long pause and hard injury recovery, so common sense says they will face some problems at the beginning with keeping improving the whole season. Young Bones playing his 2nd season, so of course, expectations are from him to improve monthly next season, while Brown and KCP are new players which need some time to adapt their games to the new system.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:07 pm
by TunaFish
THE J0KER wrote:
KXX wrote:https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/win-totals/

Boston Celtics 55.5
Milwaukee Bucks 52.5
Phoenix Suns 52.5
Los Angeles Clippers 52.5
Golden State Warriors 51.5
Denver Nuggets 49.5
Philadelphia 76ers 49.5
Memphis Grizzlies 48.5
Dallas Mavericks 48.5
Miami Heat 48.5
Minnesota Timberwolves 47.5
Atlanta Hawks 46.5
Los Angeles Lakers 45.5
Brooklyn Nets 45.5
Spoiler:
New Orleans Pelicans 44.5
Toronto Raptors 44.5
Chicago Bulls 43.5
Cleveland Cavaliers 42.5
Portland Trail Blazers 40.5
New York Knicks 39.5
Charlotte Hornets 36.5
Washington Wizards 35.5
Utah Jazz 32.5
Sacramento Kings 32.5
Detroit Pistons 28.5
Oklahoma City Thunder 26.5
Orlando Magic 25.5
Indiana Pacers 24.5
Houston Rockets 23.5
San Antonio Spurs 23.5

Odds provided by DraftKings - Subject to Change - Updated: Wed., Aug. 10 - 4:30 p.m. ET

Looks fairly accurate IMO.

Interesting, Vegas bookmakers give much better chances for 2022-23 Nuggets to compete well during the regular season than during the playoff. Denver is listed as the #6 best team in the league when it comes to estimating regular season record, but just #10 according to winning NBA 2023 title odds. I find it pretty bizarre, because how on Earth you can expect a team to better produce in the regular season than in the playoff if there are realistic expectations that 6 out of 7 key players will play better AFTER the all-star break (including playoff) than before the all-star break (which is 70% of the regular season)??

Jokic traditionally has the cold start of the season before Christmas. Murray and MPJ coming from a long pause and hard injury recovery, so common sense says they will face some problems at the beginning with keeping improving the whole season. Young Bones playing his 2nd season, so of course, expectations are from him to improve monthly next season, while Brown and KCP are new players which need some time to adapt their games to the new system.


My only guess is that they expect either or both Murray and MPJ to be injured again by the end of the season. In viewing other boards I am hearing the same thing among NBA fans. There's little confidence in their health, especially MPJ.

I am not a gambler but if I get a chance, I would have to think about risking a few bucks on those odds.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:00 pm
by skywalker33
Just put a quick $100 on the over, feels like we're going 52 wins or better

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:29 am
by winforlose
Maf wrote:First of all: Great to have you back!

Can´t really say. If I´d say we are top two, top three, I might end up dissapointed. So I´d rate it like this.

A- Teams I think they are better- Warriors and Suns. Good coaching, core together, they´re just good.
B- Teams who might be better if one guy has MVP-like season- Mavs and Grizzlies. Ja and Luka are able to make wonders.
C- Teams who might depend on health even more then us- Clippers and Pelicans. It´s like... Kawhi was a **** best. Zion showed he could be too. If they´re back in full strength? They could be really good. Someone could say hey, same for the Lakers! I doubt (hope they won´t)
D- Team I have no idea how they´ll make it work- Sotta. I don´t have good opinion about Russell or Anthony. Edwards is different story... I just can´t see how they´ll make it work with Gobert defending the paint and KAT chasing the smaller guys outside. I am not saying this cannot work. If they´ll figure it out, than Watch Out!


Don´t get me wrong. Of course I will cheer for Nuggets. Of course I will hope for the best. But off-season moves didn´t impress me (like paying 30 per 2 for guy I´d pay 20 per 3 max). I have no hope for MPJ staying healthy. Yes, I questioned Murray´s desire to come back last season. But mostly, years as Nugget fan tought me to not expect much. Less you expect the better. So if we´re TOP 4, second round, I´d be ok.


Wolves fan here. I think it is fair to point out that KAT spent most of the season defending on the perimeter last year. We ran the high wall and KAT would defend in space a lot. Some games he picked up fouls and was inefficient, but for the most part many Wolves fan agree KAT had his best defensive year last year. The biggest problem was when KAT did leave the paint opposing bigs rolled and Vanderbilt couldn’t defend the paint without help, which opened up the corners. You ask how can it work, it kinda already did. We were a top 10 defense for most of the year, and probably stay there if Ant’s knee wasn’t an issue.

For an outside perspective on your place in the west I have you between 3 and 4 depending on how well Murray and MPJ get healthy, and how quickly the minutes restriction are lifted. I really like some of your offseason moves as well.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:12 pm
by skywalker33
winforlose wrote:
Maf wrote:First of all: Great to have you back!

Can´t really say. If I´d say we are top two, top three, I might end up dissapointed. So I´d rate it like this.

A- Teams I think they are better- Warriors and Suns. Good coaching, core together, they´re just good.
B- Teams who might be better if one guy has MVP-like season- Mavs and Grizzlies. Ja and Luka are able to make wonders.
C- Teams who might depend on health even more then us- Clippers and Pelicans. It´s like... Kawhi was a **** best. Zion showed he could be too. If they´re back in full strength? They could be really good. Someone could say hey, same for the Lakers! I doubt (hope they won´t)
D- Team I have no idea how they´ll make it work- Sotta. I don´t have good opinion about Russell or Anthony. Edwards is different story... I just can´t see how they´ll make it work with Gobert defending the paint and KAT chasing the smaller guys outside. I am not saying this cannot work. If they´ll figure it out, than Watch Out!


Don´t get me wrong. Of course I will cheer for Nuggets. Of course I will hope for the best. But off-season moves didn´t impress me (like paying 30 per 2 for guy I´d pay 20 per 3 max). I have no hope for MPJ staying healthy. Yes, I questioned Murray´s desire to come back last season. But mostly, years as Nugget fan tought me to not expect much. Less you expect the better. So if we´re TOP 4, second round, I´d be ok.


Wolves fan here. I think it is fair to point out that KAT spent most of the season defending on the perimeter last year. We ran the high wall and KAT would defend in space a lot. Some games he picked up fouls and was inefficient, but for the most part many Wolves fan agree KAT had his best defensive year last year. The biggest problem was when KAT did leave the paint opposing bigs rolled and Vanderbilt couldn’t defend the paint without help, which opened up the corners. You ask how can it work, it kinda already did. We were a top 10 defense for most of the year, and probably stay there if Ant’s knee wasn’t an issue.

For an outside perspective on your place in the west I have you between 3 and 4 depending on how well Murray and MPJ get healthy, and how quickly the minutes restriction are lifted. I really like some of your offseason moves as well.


Again, this is NOT a Wolves forum, we don't give a crap about KAT or any other Wolves info, please see yourself out with that dribble

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:13 pm
by skywalker33
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Maf wrote:First of all: Great to have you back!

Can´t really say. If I´d say we are top two, top three, I might end up dissapointed. So I´d rate it like this.

A- Teams I think they are better- Warriors and Suns. Good coaching, core together, they´re just good.
B- Teams who might be better if one guy has MVP-like season- Mavs and Grizzlies. Ja and Luka are able to make wonders.
C- Teams who might depend on health even more then us- Clippers and Pelicans. It´s like... Kawhi was a **** best. Zion showed he could be too. If they´re back in full strength? They could be really good. Someone could say hey, same for the Lakers! I doubt (hope they won´t)
D- Team I have no idea how they´ll make it work- Sotta. I don´t have good opinion about Russell or Anthony. Edwards is different story... I just can´t see how they´ll make it work with Gobert defending the paint and KAT chasing the smaller guys outside. I am not saying this cannot work. If they´ll figure it out, than Watch Out!


Don´t get me wrong. Of course I will cheer for Nuggets. Of course I will hope for the best. But off-season moves didn´t impress me (like paying 30 per 2 for guy I´d pay 20 per 3 max). I have no hope for MPJ staying healthy. Yes, I questioned Murray´s desire to come back last season. But mostly, years as Nugget fan tought me to not expect much. Less you expect the better. So if we´re TOP 4, second round, I´d be ok.


Wolves fan here. I think it is fair to point out that KAT spent most of the season defending on the perimeter last year. We ran the high wall and KAT would defend in space a lot. Some games he picked up fouls and was inefficient, but for the most part many Wolves fan agree KAT had his best defensive year last year. The biggest problem was when KAT did leave the paint opposing bigs rolled and Vanderbilt couldn’t defend the paint without help, which opened up the corners. You ask how can it work, it kinda already did. We were a top 10 defense for most of the year, and probably stay there if Ant’s knee wasn’t an issue.

For an outside perspective on your place in the west I have you between 3 and 4 depending on how well Murray and MPJ get healthy, and how quickly the minutes restriction are lifted. I really like some of your offseason moves as well.


Again, this is NOT a Wolves forum, we don't give a crap about KAT or any other Wolves info, please see yourself out with that dribble. There are plenty of other threads that will be open to your crap, but this is a NUGGETS forum.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:29 pm
by winforlose
skywalker33 wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Wolves fan here. I think it is fair to point out that KAT spent most of the season defending on the perimeter last year. We ran the high wall and KAT would defend in space a lot. Some games he picked up fouls and was inefficient, but for the most part many Wolves fan agree KAT had his best defensive year last year. The biggest problem was when KAT did leave the paint opposing bigs rolled and Vanderbilt couldn’t defend the paint without help, which opened up the corners. You ask how can it work, it kinda already did. We were a top 10 defense for most of the year, and probably stay there if Ant’s knee wasn’t an issue.

For an outside perspective on your place in the west I have you between 3 and 4 depending on how well Murray and MPJ get healthy, and how quickly the minutes restriction are lifted. I really like some of your offseason moves as well.


Again, this is NOT a Wolves forum, we don't give a crap about KAT or any other Wolves info, please see yourself out with that dribble. There are plenty of other threads that will be open to your crap, but this is a NUGGETS forum.


This is on topic post in a thread about the west. It is a direct response to one of your members and an outside perspective on the rankings. I do not see anything wrong with my response.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:09 pm
by skywalker33
winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
Again, this is NOT a Wolves forum, we don't give a crap about KAT or any other Wolves info, please see yourself out with that dribble. There are plenty of other threads that will be open to your crap, but this is a NUGGETS forum.


This is on topic post in a thread about the west. It is a direct response to one of your members and an outside perspective on the rankings. I do not see anything wrong with my response.


You have ONE sentence about the topic and a whole paragraph about the Wolves, THIS IS A NUGGETS FORUM, stop trying to turn it into a t-pups fiorum. They're a bunch of losers, always will be.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:16 pm
by winforlose
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:


This is on topic post in a thread about the west. It is a direct response to one of your members and an outside perspective on the rankings. I do not see anything wrong with my response.


You have ONE sentence about the topic and a whole paragraph about the Wolves, THIS IS A NUGGETS FORUM, stop trying to turn it into a t-pups fiorum. They're a bunch of losers, always will be.


The paragraph is a direct response to someone asking how it will work. Earlier you had another such question from Tuna Fish. I answered it. If you want me to rate the west for you I will.

1. Timberwolves
2. Clippers
3. Healthy Nuggets but until then Suns
4. Nuggets until they get healthy then Suns
5. Tie between GSW and Memphis
6. Tie between GSW and Memphis
7. Dallas
8. Pelicans (I don’t think Zion can stay healthy or in shape,)
9. Portland
10. OKC
11. Lakers
12. Kings
13. Rockets
14. Spurs
15. Jazz

I have reasons for every ranking If you want them.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:21 pm
by skywalker33
winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
This is on topic post in a thread about the west. It is a direct response to one of your members and an outside perspective on the rankings. I do not see anything wrong with my response.


You have ONE sentence about the topic and a whole paragraph about the Wolves, THIS IS A NUGGETS FORUM, stop trying to turn it into a t-pups fiorum. They're a bunch of losers, always will be.


The paragraph is a direct response to someone asking how it will work. Earlier you had another such question from Tuna Fish. I answered it. If you want me to rate the west for you I will.

1. Timberwolves
2. Clippers
3. Healthy Nuggets but until then Suns
4. Nuggets until they get healthy then Suns
5. Tie between GSW and Memphis
6. Tie between GSW and Memphis
7. Dallas
8. Pelicans (I don’t think Zion can stay healthy or in shape,)
9. Portland
10. OKC
11. Lakers
12. Kings
13. Rockets
14. Spurs
15. Jazz

I have reasons for every ranking If you want them.


T-pups as the #1 is obviously a troll as they're not even a top 5 team in the WC, Connelly has mortgaged their future, kicked their salary cap to the curb and nobody here cares about you favorite team, shove off tpup boy

T-pups SUCK.

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:47 pm
by winforlose
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
You have ONE sentence about the topic and a whole paragraph about the Wolves, THIS IS A NUGGETS FORUM, stop trying to turn it into a t-pups fiorum. They're a bunch of losers, always will be.


The paragraph is a direct response to someone asking how it will work. Earlier you had another such question from Tuna Fish. I answered it. If you want me to rate the west for you I will.

1. Timberwolves
2. Clippers
3. Healthy Nuggets but until then Suns
4. Nuggets until they get healthy then Suns
5. Tie between GSW and Memphis
6. Tie between GSW and Memphis
7. Dallas
8. Pelicans (I don’t think Zion can stay healthy or in shape,)
9. Portland
10. OKC
11. Lakers
12. Kings
13. Rockets
14. Spurs
15. Jazz

I have reasons for every ranking If you want them.


T-pups as the #1 is obviously a troll as they're not even a top 5 team in the WC, Connelly has mortgaged their future, kicked their salary cap to the curb and nobody here cares about you favorite team, shove off tpup boy

T-pups SUCK.


Just for fun, how do you guard us? Jokic guards Gobert who guards Towns? How do you out rebound us? Are you gonna reign 3s with a 5 out and bench Jokic? I doubt it, but it would be fun to see. The question is who is better than the Nuggets this year but you are intolerant of any discussion of any team other than Nuggets. How does one answer when they cannot speak about the other 14?

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:51 pm
by skywalker33
winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
The paragraph is a direct response to someone asking how it will work. Earlier you had another such question from Tuna Fish. I answered it. If you want me to rate the west for you I will.

1. Timberwolves
2. Clippers
3. Healthy Nuggets but until then Suns
4. Nuggets until they get healthy then Suns
5. Tie between GSW and Memphis
6. Tie between GSW and Memphis
7. Dallas
8. Pelicans (I don’t think Zion can stay healthy or in shape,)
9. Portland
10. OKC
11. Lakers
12. Kings
13. Rockets
14. Spurs
15. Jazz

I have reasons for every ranking If you want them.


T-pups as the #1 is obviously a troll as they're not even a top 5 team in the WC, Connelly has mortgaged their future, kicked their salary cap to the curb and nobody here cares about you favorite team, shove off tpup boy

T-pups SUCK.


Just for fun, how do you guard us? Jokic guards Gobert who guards Towns? How do you out rebound us? Are you gonna reign 3s with a 5 out and bench Jokic? I doubt it, but it would be fun to see. The question is who is better than the Nuggets this year but you are intolerant of any discussion of any team other than Nuggets. How does one answer when they cannot speak about the other 14?



You're not even worth a post, going on to the FOE list

Re: Which WC teams are better than the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:30 am
by The Rebel
winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
The paragraph is a direct response to someone asking how it will work. Earlier you had another such question from Tuna Fish. I answered it. If you want me to rate the west for you I will.

1. Timberwolves
2. Clippers
3. Healthy Nuggets but until then Suns
4. Nuggets until they get healthy then Suns
5. Tie between GSW and Memphis
6. Tie between GSW and Memphis
7. Dallas
8. Pelicans (I don’t think Zion can stay healthy or in shape,)
9. Portland
10. OKC
11. Lakers
12. Kings
13. Rockets
14. Spurs
15. Jazz

I have reasons for every ranking If you want them.


T-pups as the #1 is obviously a troll as they're not even a top 5 team in the WC, Connelly has mortgaged their future, kicked their salary cap to the curb and nobody here cares about you favorite team, shove off tpup boy

T-pups SUCK.


Just for fun, how do you guard us? Jokic guards Gobert who guards Towns? How do you out rebound us? Are you gonna reign 3s with a 5 out and bench Jokic? I doubt it, but it would be fun to see. The question is who is better than the Nuggets this year but you are intolerant of any discussion of any team other than Nuggets. How does one answer when they cannot speak about the other 14?


LMAO, you really should learn about a team before trolling. Maybe you don't realize it, but MPJ measured in at 6'!1" at the combine when he was 19 and looks like he grew another inch, he is more than prepared to guard Gobert, and actually considering his big weakness against bigs is when they post him up, he will do just fine against KAT as well. If he gets in foul trouble, then we have NNaji off the bench who is also 6'11" and graded out as our 2nd best perimeter defender last year before he got injured. Even better we have Gordon who can guard 2/3s, Russell is guarded by KCP, and Murray can capably guard both.

The real question is who guards the Nuggets? Jokic has a long history of tearing up both KAT and Gobert, Murray and Jokic when last active had the most effective 2 man game in the league. MPJ has a career 63.1% TS%, KCP shot 42% from 3 on spot ups last year, hell even Gordon shot 36% on spot up 3s last year and is reportedly working on that right now. Off the bench we got even more defense and shooters.

There is really 4 very funny things about you trying to troll here.

Last year the Twolves had the 2nd least amount of games missed in the league last year due to injury or covid with about 155 missed, the Nuggets had the 2nd most by teams not tanking last year with over 360 (and that is with trading 2 guys out for the season at the deadline which would have had them 1st overall for games missed). The odds that the Twolves will be that healthy or that the Nuggets will be that unhealthy next year are low, yet we still finished above you in the standings.

Last year by all reports Beverly was the emotional and vocal leader of your team, he is gone, but who fills the void? Russell and KAT have long proven not to be leaders, Gobert was not even close to a leader in Utah and reportedly not well liked by teammates, Slo-MO has never been known as a leader, so are they all going to listen to 2nd year Edwards? Is he ready or even able to lead? Are his teammates with years more of experience going to pay attention when he talks?

Your backup 2 and 3 next year appear to be our 3rd string from last year, the thing is we had the 2nd worst bench in the league throughout the 1st 2/3rds of the season with it only turning around when Bones took over, we signed Reed to a two way and started playing him, and we signed Cousins. We upgraded both of them with a proven starter from a playoff team last year who is a considerably better scorer and ball handler then either and re-signing Reed who outplayed both last year down the final stretch of the season.

Tim Connelly has a blind spot, it is something that every Nuggets fan knows deep down, it is something that has kept us from being a true contender since Gary Harris got hurt. Connelly does not value perimeter defense, especially guard defense. From what I see you guys lost 4 of your top 5 perimeter defenders since last season, you replaced them with a guy known as slow mo who has always struggled to keep up with quick guards, and Austin Rivers who is only effective against a handful of guys. IN a league where 42% of all shots are from 18 feet out, who is going to defend those guys?

Fact is if I were you I would be embarrassed by your post, putting the Twolves 1st while they have proven nothing at this point? Not just over the Nuggets which is stupid to start with, but over the Warriors who just won a championship, over the Suns, over the Clippers? Nobody considers the Twolves contenders outside of the biggest Twolves homers out there. Then trying to say that we have nobody to cover your two bigs, when we start 3 true bigs, two of whom are quick enough to play SF as well, talk about knowing nothing about a team when you are trolling. It is bad enough that you came over to try to brag about getting our scrubs that nobody wanted back, but then to follow that up with this post just makes you look sad and ignorant, I actually feel bad for you.