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Unfortunately, Denver lost another road game against a team playing without important starters (B.Ingram and H.Jones), and as it happens often in some previous seasons we once again make some anonymous role players look like all-stars (some undrafted sophomore guy Jose Alvarado which only once before have 20+ game in career scored 38 points today!?). Pels which with today's win overtake Nuggets on the West make this win mostly due to the fact that their bench humiliated our bench 62-18, and for some reason, our best bench player Hyland (especially when Brown is a starter) played only 5 minutes.

Get rid of Mike Malone for the start. He should have been gone two seasons ago yet Denver's clueless FO extended him even though it was obvious he was not the the right coach for this team.

Mickey8 wrote:Get rid of Mike Malone for the start.

Is this gonna be all we get from you this season...and the only time you pop up on this forum is after a loss ?

Should I be thrilled when Denver beats up bunch of tanking teams at home This team is not buying what Malone is selling , if he's even trying to sell anything. He needs to be replaced, the team is under performing, you have to shake up things up , ambitious front office would fire the coach first. Bring in Udoka ,anybody, try something different. This is not working.

Mickey8 wrote:Get rid of Mike Malone for the start. He should have been gone two seasons ago yet Denver's clueless FO extended him even though it was obvious he was not the the right coach for this team.

It all depends on what is our FO's main goals. If their priority is multiple 2nd round playoff runs during the Jokic era (which is a legit mindset for a "small market" franchise), Malone will deliver several TOP4 seeds and WC semifinals with chances to reach another WC final like in 2020 and was close in 2019. But if the priority is to use Jokic(-Murray-Porter) for the franchise's maiden NBA final or even ring, Malone is just the wrong person to make it.

I believe when we accept the reality of our team´s ceiling being second round at the best we´ll lose this negative attitude. There won´t be no Big Three fighting for championship, but team capable of winning 50 regular season games which is fine, still can have fun with that.

About coaching change, not saying I am against it just be careful what you wish for. I think most of us are there long enough to remember all those "George Karl is trash, with Dantley we would be so much better" or "Yeah, Brian Shaw! He´s got that championship pedigree we were searching for" posts over here. So coaching change might be good. Also might be catastrophic.

I never liked Malone as the head coach for Denver.The guy is hiding behind Jokic's individual talent and the moderate success team is having because of that. He never figured out how to play well when Jokic is absent , he buried lots of young players who are doing well somewhere else now. He can't even motivate his best player to bring the best effort every night. This team is stuck with complacency and I blame this on the coach. He should have been gone long time ago.

Maf wrote:I believe when we accept the reality of our team´s ceiling being second round at the best we´ll lose this negative attitude. There won´t be no Big Three fighting for championship, but team capable of winning 50 regular season games which is fine, still can have fun with that.

About coaching change, not saying I am against it just be careful what you wish for. I think most of us are there long enough to remember all those "George Karl is trash, with Dantley we would be so much better" or "Yeah, Brian Shaw! He´s got that championship pedigree we were searching for" posts over here. So coaching change might be good. Also might be catastrophic.

Well, if that the way you truly feel about this team, perhaps you should start rooting for another team. I have to disagree with you that this team is a 2nd round flame-out, especially if healthy. Having been a fan of the Nuggets for about 50yrs, this is one of the BEST teams they've had in decades, an equal balance of offense and defense (although guessing it hasn't translated well these last two games, didn't get to/have to watch them).

As for a coaching change Mickey is pounding the table for, who could we get that's better ?? Udoke was brought up but this BOS team proved HE wasn't the reason for their success recently, so name a better replacement and we can talk.

Mickey8 wrote:I never liked Malone as the head coach for Denver.The guy is hiding behind Jokic's individual talent and the moderate success team is having because of that. He never figured out how to play well when Jokic is absent , he buried lots of young players who are doing well somewhere else now. He can't even motivate his best player to bring the best effort every night. This team is stuck with complacency and I blame this on the coach. He should have been gone long time ago.

Only sports fans can call for someone's job when they are 3rd overall in their conference. I have my own issues with Malone, but I always notice that just like Karl, nobody has a replacement they just want someone fired.

It is a long season, every team goes through periods where they lose a couple when they shouldn't and also a period when they win games they shouldn't. Sure Malone benefits from Jokic's talent, the entire franchise does, but as long as Jokic is happy with Malone he isn't going anywhere.

By the way who are the young players that Malone buried that are doing so well elsewhere? If you bring up Bol, then you only show that you were not watching games he played last year when he literally did nothing. Vanderbilt? The guy who can't shoot, can't dribble, and can only play as an undersized big? How does he fit with Jokic?

The Rebel wrote:

Mickey8 wrote:I never liked Malone as the head coach for Denver.The guy is hiding behind Jokic's individual talent and the moderate success team is having because of that. He never figured out how to play well when Jokic is absent , he buried lots of young players who are doing well somewhere else now. He can't even motivate his best player to bring the best effort every night. This team is stuck with complacency and I blame this on the coach. He should have been gone long time ago.

Only sports fans can call for someone's job when they are 3rd overall in their conference. I have my own issues with Malone, but I always notice that just like Karl, nobody has a replacement they just want someone fired.

I just want to say I totatally agree with you. Still I want to that Broncos coach got fired! That crap is just unwatchable.

Maf wrote:I believe when we accept the reality of our team´s ceiling being second round at the best we´ll lose this negative attitude. There won´t be no Big Three fighting for championship, but team capable of winning 50 regular season games which is fine, still can have fun with that.

About coaching change, not saying I am against it just be careful what you wish for. I think most of us are there long enough to remember all those "George Karl is trash, with Dantley we would be so much better" or "Yeah, Brian Shaw! He´s got that championship pedigree we were searching for" posts over here. So coaching change might be good. Also might be catastrophic.

So a team that was in the conference finals the last time Jokic, MPJ, and Murray were healthy despite missing our starting SF and having Millsap age 20 years between the regular season and the bubble is at best a 2nd round team?

Despite Murray still being several 4 months away from the 2 years that it takes everybody else to come back from an ACL tear and with MPJ missing so much time, as well as the coviid games missed and such we are still on pace for 50 wins right now.

You guys really need to smoke a bowl and chill the **** out, it isn't panic time or even close to it.

Maf wrote:

The Rebel wrote:

Mickey8 wrote:I never liked Malone as the head coach for Denver.The guy is hiding behind Jokic's individual talent and the moderate success team is having because of that. He never figured out how to play well when Jokic is absent , he buried lots of young players who are doing well somewhere else now. He can't even motivate his best player to bring the best effort every night. This team is stuck with complacency and I blame this on the coach. He should have been gone long time ago.

Only sports fans can call for someone's job when they are 3rd overall in their conference. I have my own issues with Malone, but I always notice that just like Karl, nobody has a replacement they just want someone fired.

I just want to say I totatally agree with you. Still I want to that Broncos coach got fired! That crap is just unwatchable.

Not a Bronco's fan, and actually think their biggest problem is Russell Wilson, but I do understand.

People that are Bronco's fans and Nuggets fans should really look at what has happened since Shanahan with the Broncos and what happened before Karl and directly after Karl with the Nuggets. The Broncos have had 7 head coaches in 14 years, Karl was the 12th head coach in 14 years after Moe fired himself, turning over head coaches all the time is not how you build success.

Maybe Malone needs fired, as I said I have my own issues with his rotations and systems, but as you said firing him can easily lead to disaster. They also are not going to fire a guy midseason that is on pace to win 50 games despite the games missed and roster turnover, why would they?

skywalker33 wrote:

Maf wrote:I believe when we accept the reality of our team´s ceiling being second round at the best we´ll lose this negative attitude. There won´t be no Big Three fighting for championship, but team capable of winning 50 regular season games which is fine, still can have fun with that.

About coaching change, not saying I am against it just be careful what you wish for. I think most of us are there long enough to remember all those "George Karl is trash, with Dantley we would be so much better" or "Yeah, Brian Shaw! He´s got that championship pedigree we were searching for" posts over here. So coaching change might be good. Also might be catastrophic.

Well, if that the way you truly feel about this team, perhaps you should start rooting for another team. I have to disagree with you that this team is a 2nd round flame-out, especially if healthy. Having been a fan of the Nuggets for about 50yrs, this is one of the BEST teams they've had in decades, an equal balance of offense and defense (although guessing it hasn't translated well these last two games, didn't get to/have to watch them).

As for a coaching change Mickey is pounding the table for, who could we get that's better ?? Udoke was brought up but this BOS team proved HE wasn't the reason for their success recently, so name a better replacement and we can talk.

Why should I? Sure I am nowhere near to being Nuggets fan as long as you are, as I say I was traded in that package for AI. But I stayed through some exciting years, some dissapointing years, couple of depressing years. So I don´t get why you tell me if I don´t believe this team can win a ring I should switch teams. It is a BS.

Your view is (not putting words in your mouth but guessing) this is balanced team, third in the west despite playing I believe most road games in NBA. I see 8-1 against the four worst western teams and 6-8 against others. And too many if if IFs. (And some of them like If MPJ is healthy sounds like a joke to me now). Does it screams tittle contented? To me, no.

So for me, lowering expectations will be healthy. You are the one who wrote me I am always negative. So if I change it to 46+ wins would be good, second round would be great, WCF would be a miracle, I´ll have no reason to complain anymore.

The Rebel wrote:

Maf wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Only sports fans can call for someone's job when they are 3rd overall in their conference. I have my own issues with Malone, but I always notice that just like Karl, nobody has a replacement they just want someone fired.

I just want to say I totatally agree with you. Still I want to that Broncos coach got fired! That crap is just unwatchable.

Not a Bronco's fan, and actually think their biggest problem is Russell Wilson, but I do understand.

People that are Bronco's fans and Nuggets fans should really look at what has happened since Shanahan with the Broncos and what happened before Karl and directly after Karl with the Nuggets. The Broncos have had 7 head coaches in 14 years, Karl was the 12th head coach in 14 years after Moe fired himself, turning over head coaches all the time is not how you build success.

Maybe Malone needs fired, as I said I have my own issues with his rotations and systems, but as you said firing him can easily lead to disaster. They also are not going to fire a guy midseason that is on pace to win 50 games despite the games missed and roster turnover, why would they?

I believe the biggest problem is (yeah I know, blasphemy) John Elway. He got lucky to get Manning, the rest of his work is... questionable.

Russell is damn good QB, have no idea what is the reason he plays so bad. He cannot work in Broncos system at all? Yeah his WR are fast but can´t catch anything. I really can´t say what is happening there.

But the coaching staff... It was one of the first games this season Broncos played. There was a suquence where Broncos were on 4and1, about distance for McManus to kick FG. They couldn´t decide if to go for it, kick, or take a TO to decide if to fcking go or kick, so they got delay of game, out of the field goal range and had to punt it. And couple of minutes later, the opposing team was punting and Broncos forgot a little think... Put punt returner in the game so they had to use TO. In that moment I knew this season will suck... I agree changing coaches all the time isn´t recipe for succes but I have no hope for this guy at all.

The Rebel wrote:

Maf wrote:I believe when we accept the reality of our team´s ceiling being second round at the best we´ll lose this negative attitude. There won´t be no Big Three fighting for championship, but team capable of winning 50 regular season games which is fine, still can have fun with that.

About coaching change, not saying I am against it just be careful what you wish for. I think most of us are there long enough to remember all those "George Karl is trash, with Dantley we would be so much better" or "Yeah, Brian Shaw! He´s got that championship pedigree we were searching for" posts over here. So coaching change might be good. Also might be catastrophic.

So a team that was in the conference finals the last time Jokic, MPJ, and Murray were healthy despite missing our starting SF and having Millsap age 20 years between the regular season and the bubble is at best a 2nd round team?

Despite Murray still being several 4 months away from the 2 years that it takes everybody else to come back from an ACL tear and with MPJ missing so much time, as well as the coviid games missed and such we are still on pace for 50 wins right now.

You guys really need to smoke a bowl and chill the **** out, it isn't panic time or even close to it.

Language barrier... Mean my poor english. I can explain our foreign workers what to do at our job but obviously I cannot be clear enough for you to understand what I mean. Not saying panic time. Just don´t expect them to repeat that WCF.

If you expect first round exit, anything more is great. If you expect WCF or finals, everything below is a failure.

Maf wrote:So for me, lowering expectations will be healthy. You are the one who wrote me I am always negative. So if I change it to 46+ wins would be good, second round would be great, WCF would be a miracle, I´ll have no reason to complain anymore.

Well, maybe that's how you feel, nothing wrong with that but I still believe and will wait to see what this team does before jumping off the ledge.....peace out.

The Rebel wrote:

Mickey8 wrote:I never liked Malone as the head coach for Denver.The guy is hiding behind Jokic's individual talent and the moderate success team is having because of that. He never figured out how to play well when Jokic is absent , he buried lots of young players who are doing well somewhere else now. He can't even motivate his best player to bring the best effort every night. This team is stuck with complacency and I blame this on the coach. He should have been gone long time ago.

Only sports fans can call for someone's job when they are 3rd overall in their conference. I have my own issues with Malone, but I always notice that just like Karl, nobody has a replacement they just want someone fired.

It is a long season, every team goes through periods where they lose a couple when they shouldn't and also a period when they win games they shouldn't. Sure Malone benefits from Jokic's talent, the entire franchise does, but as long as Jokic is happy with Malone he isn't going anywhere.

By the way who are the young players that Malone buried that are doing so well elsewhere? If you bring up Bol, then you only show that you were not watching games he played last year when he literally did nothing. Vanderbilt? The guy who can't shoot, can't dribble, and can only play as an undersized big? How does he fit with Jokic?

The views like these just show lack of an ambition of Denver Nuggets. Denver's FO is like that, they wont do any change to improve their chances to become the serious title contenders and its clear as the day that Malone is the weakest link on this team. Golden State did the perfect move that have changed their club history, they replaced the coach that they knew he wouldn't get them near to the title contention and as soon they replaced him, they started winning. Mark my word ,this team wont go further than the first or second round of the play off as long Mlaone is the coach of this team . Mike Malone is not the type of the coach that can lead the team to the great success. He's the bad tactician, his players management is bad, he has bunch of bad habits that makes him mediocre coach, he can't install winning mentality into his players . Denver will regret wasting Jokic's prime years.

Mickey8 wrote:

The Rebel wrote:

Mickey8 wrote:I never liked Malone as the head coach for Denver.The guy is hiding behind Jokic's individual talent and the moderate success team is having because of that. He never figured out how to play well when Jokic is absent , he buried lots of young players who are doing well somewhere else now. He can't even motivate his best player to bring the best effort every night. This team is stuck with complacency and I blame this on the coach. He should have been gone long time ago.

Only sports fans can call for someone's job when they are 3rd overall in their conference. I have my own issues with Malone, but I always notice that just like Karl, nobody has a replacement they just want someone fired.

It is a long season, every team goes through periods where they lose a couple when they shouldn't and also a period when they win games they shouldn't. Sure Malone benefits from Jokic's talent, the entire franchise does, but as long as Jokic is happy with Malone he isn't going anywhere.

By the way who are the young players that Malone buried that are doing so well elsewhere? If you bring up Bol, then you only show that you were not watching games he played last year when he literally did nothing. Vanderbilt? The guy who can't shoot, can't dribble, and can only play as an undersized big? How does he fit with Jokic?

The views like these just show lack of an ambition of Denver Nuggets. Denver's FO is like that, they wont do any change to improve their chances to become the serious title contenders and its clear as the day that Malone is the weakest link on this team. Golden State did the perfect move that have changed their club history, they replaced the coach that they knew he wouldn't get them near to the title contention and as soon they replaced him, they started winning. Mark my word ,this team wont go further than the first or second round of the play off as long Mlaone is the coach of this team . Mike Malone is not the type of the coach that can lead the team to the great success. He's the bad tactician, his players management is bad, he has bunch of bad habits that makes him mediocre coach, he can't install winning mentality into his players . Denver will regret wasting Jokic's prime years.

Alright, Genius, you want to fire Malone, that much is clear. Who are you gonna replace him with ?? And since you wan t to play GM, what other moves will you make ??

I am not calling names anyone around here. My views are just right, This team is going nowhere with Malone. He'just not the good coach, he has so many flaws. Ill take anyone over him right now. Udoka is still free, I could care less if he's cheating his wife or not, thats his personal life. Ill even let Popeye Jones to coach this season out, anyone but Malone who is looking lost every night.

Mickey8 wrote:I am not calling names anyone around here. My views are just right, This team is going nowhere with Malone. He'just not the good coach, he has so many flaws. Ill take anyone over him right now. Udoka is still free, I could care less if he's cheating his wife or not, thats his personal life. Ill even let Popeye Jones to coach this season out, anyone but Malone who is looking lost every night.

So, YOUR views are right ?? Talk about a little egomanical.....

Udoka ?? this years version of the Celtics is proving it was more the team, not Udoka's coaching, so does THAT make you right ??? LOL

The only thing you're right about is that you don't like Malone, that's fair. But until you can offer a solution, you're just spinning your wheels and tooting your own horn.