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Ron Artest
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:55 am
by memrs
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:04 am
by L-Burna89
Eddie and Kleiza is probably the most we would give up. The Kings might be willing to do it, only because they're going to be losing him at the end of the year anyway, most likely......so they may as well get some kind of value for him.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:51 am
by CanNugget
It would really screw over the nuggs if he opts out especially if we give up guys like najera and kleiza. and im assuming he will since Im almost positive he'll be upset about the amount of touches he gets. even though I think artest minus the offcourt problems could work wonders for this team, doubt it would happen or is worth it.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:48 am
by UNLVNugsFan
Yeah I am definitely not a fan of trading Kleiza in any deal for Artest for that very reason. I would hate to be giving up a very good role player for a half-season rental on Artest. Najera on the other hand, obviously does not have the upside, and I honestly believe would consider signing with the nuggets in the off-season anyway.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:56 am
by JRmakes_it_rain
if we were to give up Kleiza and Najera....I'd rather get Mike Miller, not as good of a defender, but a better shooter, and he's locked into a contract.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 6:46 am
by tareek_ed
i coulda swore artest said he wanted to play for the nuggets.... i think im wrong though...
but, if he wants to go to the nuggets, i dont think he'll opt out after the season. and the nuggets will be getting much further with artest then the kings will get with their current roster.. so maybe he wont opt out if hes on a winning team...
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 6:47 am
by almost famous
If they are going to act like JR is simply nothing more than a filler, I say screw em. Let Artest opt out for nothing.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:45 am
by big123
almost famous wrote:If they are going to act like JR is simply nothing more than a filler, I say screw em. Let Artest opt out for nothing.
I don't think JR would be the filler, it would be Najera if anything.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:13 am
by JEWELZ
i remember ron sayin he wanted to play with AI when he got traded from indy, but this trade can be awesome or lead to a train wreck
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:38 am
by eathy
if we get artest for say najera and kleiza... would he play off the bench??
i dont like the idea of ai returning to start at the point.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:45 am
by big123
eathy wrote:if we get artest for say najera and kleiza... would he play off the bench??
i dont like the idea of ai returning to start at the point.
Either AI would go to the point or Martin would come off the bench.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:26 pm
by UNLVNugsFan
Yeah, I am starting to see a lot of cons to bringing in Artest:
1) We may have to throw in LK.
2) AI would have to move to PG, or Melo to PF (not two attractive options)
3) Possibility Artest decides to opt out at the end of the year.
4) Possible baggage that Artest brings with him everywhere he goes.
5) Doesn't solve our inability to hit the 3.
6) May not be happy with the lack of touches he will be getting.
All that being said, I do not think I would be irritated getting Artest, I just would not be that happy to get him either.
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:39 pm
by sackings916
Any Nugget insiders (Eric Stratton?) hear that the deal is dead because the Kings are insisting on including Thomas with Artest and the Nuggets wont take him?
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:25 pm
by tareek_ed
with nene out, we could use kenny thomas.. hes a veteran that plays smart.. i loved him when he was on the sixers and was sad to see him go....
but i said before, id try and get quincy douby...
Posted: Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:29 pm
by L-Burna89
tareek_ed wrote:with nene out, we could use kenny thomas.. hes a veteran that plays smart.. i loved him when he was on the sixers and was sad to see him go....
lol....you're joking, right?
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 12:05 am
by tareek_ed
^lol, not at all.. maybe hes been playing bad for the kings, i dont know.. but i know when he was with the sixers, i loved how he played.. he hustled, grabbed boards, and was decent offensively.. i think alot of sixers fans would say they liked him when he was with us. maybe he fell off pretty far, i havent seen him play since he left the sixers...
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 12:31 am
by corona
we can't afford to take on kenny thomas at 3 years, 24 million...for what could be a 3 month rental of ron artest.
Any Nugget insiders (Eric Stratton?) hear that the deal is dead because the Kings are insisting on including Thomas with Artest and the Nuggets wont take him?
that's too much to ask from them.
an expiring and a late pick or young player with potential should be enough.
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 12:58 am
by JRmakes_it_rain
sounds like kenny thomas is gonna be the main hang up in any trade involving Artest, Sac is going to want him to leave with Artest, but I don't see anybody silly enough to take on that contract.
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:51 am
by sackings916
tareek_ed wrote:^lol, not at all.. maybe hes been playing bad for the kings, i dont know.. but i know when he was with the sixers, i loved how he played.. he hustled, grabbed boards, and was decent offensively.. i think alot of sixers fans would say they liked him when he was with us. maybe he fell off pretty far, i havent seen him play since he left the sixers...
He's basically the same player minus the offense. He has no offense
whatsoever, I have no idea what happened to his jumpshot. He's still a good rebounder and hustles though.
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:39 am
by tareek_ed
^thats good to hear.. if we were to acquire him, we wouldnt need much offense from him anyways.. as long as he doesnt miss easy put-backs, hes good in my book..
however, his contract is a bit ridiculous, lol...
i know i keep saying this, but, i want douby :/