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THE FIRING SQUAD BETTER BE READY
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:39 am
by goldenkarrrlll
Because Georgie is going for a ride!
George: Guys I think we should play strictly zone tonight so we can not box out, no need to rebound, as a matter of fact lets play a 3-2, there is no way the Bulls can find any gaps in the defense.
Halftime
Guys I know we just gave up 57% shooting and 68 points to the 30th ranked offensive FG% shooting team, but let's not make any adjustments at all, I am sure everything will be fine. Oh and guys let's really get after it and play hard!
After the game:
"That JR sucks, lucky for us we have Kleiza and didn't make any trades to disrupt our perfect chemistry"
Q:
Whos job is it to make sure the players are ready to play?
A:
The coach
Q:
whos job is it to make strategic adjustments when things aren't working?
A:
The coach
Q:
whos job is it to make sure all the players feel they are treated equally?
A:
The coach
Q:
Who just went into the front office and told them not to listen to Melo's pleas for Ron Artest or someone else who can help win in the playoffs?
A:
The coach
Q:Who's ass needs to get fired if we don't make the playoffs or lose in the first round?
A:
The coach
There are no more injury excuses...no more we are waiting to make a trade excuses...this is it. Karl refused trades and it is his job to make sure the players play like Phil Jackson's, prepared and motivated. Otherwise,what is a coach for, to look ridiculous,bald and fat? If you noticed the nuggets players really were satisfied there were no trade moves as they came out with bundles of energy ready to prove the rest of the world wrong and show they are contenders. A la contra, they showed they had a chip on their shoulder toward a coach who kisses Kleiza and Najara's WHITE asses, while JR (the only guy who played with energy) gets chastised at the end of the game for making "Fantasy Land" shots when the game was out of reach. Get a clue Karl.....and then get a job.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:32 am
by Teens On Acid
man..we know...we've known for a long time...and this last week has really cemented what we've know for a long time.
JR = WIN
GK = FAIL
encouragement and positive thinking isn't Karl's strong point when it comes to anyone but LK and Eddie...as much as it sucks, it's true, we all see it in games. we all see how Karl's game management is pretty much toilet. we've seen in for years. there's a reason this team hasn't advanced beyond the forst round...and injuries have nothing to do with it. it's about George Karl being out coached. all this 'integrity of the game'...a load of BS...modify the game Karl, make other teams adjust to YOUR revolutionary style of play instead of playing like they did in the early 60's...oh wait.....nevermind.
in all my years of supporting the Nuggets.....the only thing i have NEVER ever liked is George Karl. i'm leaving it at that, cause i really get into a bad mood talking about him.
Re: THE FIRING SQUAD BETTER BE READY
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:58 am
by sportsmikegm23
goldenkarrrlll wrote:Because Georgie is going for a ride!
George: Guys I think we should play strictly zone tonight so we can not box out, no need to rebound, as a matter of fact lets play a 3-2, there is no way the Bulls can find any gaps in the defense.
Halftime
Guys I know we just gave up 57% shooting and 68 points to the 30th ranked offensive FG% shooting team, but let's not make any adjustments at all, I am sure everything will be fine. Oh and guys let's really get after it and play hard!
After the game:
"That JR sucks, lucky for us we have Kleiza and didn't make any trades to disrupt our perfect chemistry"
Q:
Whos job is it to make sure the players are ready to play?
A:
The coach
Q:
whos job is it to make strategic adjustments when things aren't working?
A:
The coach
Q:
whos job is it to make sure all the players feel they are treated equally?
A:
The coach
Q:
Who just went into the front office and told them not to listen to Melo's pleas for Ron Artest or someone else who can help win in the playoffs?
A:
The coach
Q:Who's ass needs to get fired if we don't make the playoffs or lose in the first round?
A:
The coach
There are no more injury excuses...no more we are waiting to make a trade excuses...this is it. Karl refused trades and it is his job to make sure the players play like Phil Jackson's, prepared and motivated. Otherwise,what is a coach for, to look ridiculous,bald and fat? If you noticed the nuggets players really were satisfied there were no trade moves as they came out with bundles of energy ready to prove the rest of the world wrong and show they are contenders. A la contra, they showed they had a chip on their shoulder toward a coach who kisses Kleiza and Najara's WHITE asses, while JR (the only guy who played with energy) gets chastised at the end of the game for making "Fantasy Land" shots when the game was out of reach. Get a clue Karl.....and then get a job.
While I will agree with some of your contentions... you honestly can't tell me that you expect a coach of million dollar athletes to have a "rah rah" speech for every time they don't bring it... with this team that way too many speeches. Karl for all his faults can't be expected to light a fire under everyone a$$...that's just not possible...they are professionals they have to do that... you can't just blame the trading deadline and not getting anyone...they have played this s***** on other night's as well.
I really don't think there was anything really strategic about this game... zone, man or whatever...if you don't play with passion...you get your a$$ kicked...and they did.
Karl needs to quit dissing JR in the media period... His tactics are ridiculous... someone should tell him he looks like a baffoon after the guy is practically the only one keeping you in a game.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:49 am
by goldenkarrrlll
I hear what you saying about the motivation, but part of being a coach is understanding the right buttons to push on your players, and it is obvious Karl has no clue.
I understand and agree with you that the passion wasn't there and sometimes it is not about strategy, but if you see the other team is draining shots and cutting through your zone and you can't get rebounds you gotta change it up. What kind of sense does it make for us playing good man to man d against the Celtics and then switching to play zone tonight.
If the coaches role is not coaching, not strategy and not pushing players buttons to help them get better than you should tell me what the coaches job is, otherwise you and I could earn a really nice living.
Tell me tonight Carmelo wasn't pissed about the trade and played with an attitude of not giving much effort. Karl didn't help by ridiculously criticizing JR, this is going to be horrible for our locker room. Players mad at Karl for blocking the trade, Kleiza and Najara feeling betrayed by those players. Then JR feeling that he can't win with Karl and those that support him, AI feeling like there is a double standard. Remember what happened in Milwaukee....here is an article I digged up from a Seattle paper in 2005 talking about Karl, tell me if this is starting to sound familiar...
In his first year in Milwaukee (1998-2003), he pushed the Bucks in a lockout-shortened season to their first postseason game in nine years.
But somehow, each stop ends in a hail of complaints, accusations, recriminations and general toxicity. Perhaps no one knows the contradictions better than Allen, acquired by the Sonics in 2003 from Milwaukee when Karl disastrously believed the Bucks needed to get tougher by getting Gary Payton, a pending free agent who would last 34 games in the upper Midwest.
In 2001, team owner and Wisconsin senator Herb Kohl gave Karl an astonishing $7 million-a-year contract extension, making him the highest-paid coach in the history of American sports (and perhaps providing the single largest indictment of Congressional judgment in U.S. history).
Allen told a Milwaukee reporter after the deal, "Look around the city on game day. He's brought the electricity back here. I don't know of a coach who would have been able to do what George did. ... I've played here for five years, and I'm usually planning my vacation around this time. Now we're looking forward to playing through June. That's a tribute to George and what he's brought."
But by 2003, Allen had been traded and Karl was fired, despite the fact that Kohl had to buy out the final contract year at nearly $9 million. After a U.S. Olympic team practice, Allen told The Associated Press, "I started despising him. We sat down a lot, but it always ended up being him talking and me listening. When he first came to Milwaukee, he was every bit of a players' coach. He listened to us, he responded to things we needed and things we wanted, and everyone wanted to play hard for him."
But Karl, Allen said, changed.
"If we were tired, he made us work harder," he said. "If we needed a day off, he made us practice. It always seemed like when something went wrong he'd bash us in the papers. He'd go at me, at Sam (Cassell), at Glenn (Robinson), and for a time there it was almost like -- from me to him as a coach-player relationship -- I started despising him."
That's pretty much how it always happens for Karl. Whether it is with players, assistants, executives or owners, Karl will alienate those he most needs.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:23 am
by Teens On Acid
JR could drop 50 and all Karl would say is, those 3's he took were hit or miss....
that's where we are with this coach.....seriously, how long is it going to take?
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:41 am
by JRmakes_it_rain
The article above is funny....reason being it's only a matter of time before he does the same thing here. I hope he's happy keeping Najera and Kleiza, because I think the rumors of Melo and AI being thrilled to keep this team together is BS, and anybody that watched tonight, or happened to read Melo's comments about it could see that. He's terrible at X's and O's....making adjustments on the fly, managing personnel, and just being able to carry a conversation with a player that isn't negative. And calling people out in the media....that's the one thing he's good at. Please, please FO, make a change, and rid us of this bum, he's going to continue doing this garbage because he's being allowed to.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:02 pm
by eathy
Who would u replace for Karl??
At this time we'd want a coach with playoff experience. Larry brown is probably the best available but Melo hates the guy and vice-versa. Jvg is the next best in line, but he's no better than Karl.
Getting a rookie coach should only be done when the season is over, where they will have all the time to interview them and get the best candidate.
Imo at this stage theres no point in making a change and we might as well use Karls philosophy and the 'garbage' team unity theory going into the playoffs.
That said would it be more of a benefit if we missed the playoffs, got a lottery pick, and guarantee Karls exit?
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:34 pm
by M.Balla
I don't want Denver to lose. Never.
Right now I thought it was a bad moment to a change of scenario, and firing Karl will mean that we throw this year away... Oh wait!!! We DID threw it away on the tradeline day...
Carter still starting+last night EMBARRASSMENT (135 points from Chicago with the DPOY on the team... are you kiddin me???)+georgie the poo calling JR Smith out=GET ON MY NERVES
But I guess that they won't fire Karl until the offseason. And even if we don't make the playoffs, some will say "Oh, the west is so tough" and "we didn't make it but we won 40 games" and Karl will still be around another year.
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:59 am
by goldenkarrrlll
FIRE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!
COUNTDOWN TO KARL's TENURE
27 games
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:07 am
by corona