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If for some reason melo is traded, what are you guys most likely looking for? With Iverson and camby getting older i would think it would be a "when now" trade. But with some nice talent at the three already in kleiza and J.R. would you guys go for young talent and expiring?

sacking101 wrote:If for some reason melo is traded, what are you guys most likely looking for?

a new team/organization to support.
if Melo goes before AI, Camby, Nene, Martin or Karl, it will be crystal clear that the FO has completely lost their mind and do not deserve the support of the fans who have been riding this Karl driven trainwreck for the last 5 years.

I wish someone in the nuggets FO was smart enough to just come out and say they're not trading melo. all these trades for melo are so damn annoying. Camby is top priority to be traded. If AI could realistically be traded then he would be top priority but no way we're trading him so goodbye Camby.

sacking101 wrote:If for some reason melo is traded, what are you guys most likely looking for? With Iverson and camby getting older i would think it would be a "when now" trade. But with some nice talent at the three already in kleiza and J.R. would you guys go for young talent and expiring?

you mean kevin martin, right?
i hope so.

If melo is traded...im also looking for a new organization to follow.....im a melo fan first, but it wont and shouldnt happen anyway, so i should stay a nuggets fan. The FO would be crazy to not get rid of the older players who might have a bigger name than their actually worth to this team (no offense, but Iverson and camby and chucky and carter)...also, i hate how the words "While the Nuggets have given no indication they will actively shop Anthony, the constant drama in the life of their 23-year-old forward has become the source of enough frustration within team headquarters that Denver would be willing to listen if somebody made a trade offer too good to refuse for Melo." means that he is being shopped....NO, IT MEANS THAT EVERY TEAM... WHICH IS A BUSINESS...WILL CONSTANTLY LOOK AT TRADES TO MAKE THEIR TEAM BETTER....IT ALSO DOESNT MEAN THAT THEY ARE REALISTICALLY LISTENING...WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WILL DO, BLOW OF SOME ESPECIALLY THE ONES FOR MELO JR KLEIZA ETC AND REALLY LISTEN TO THE CAMBY AND POSSIBLY IVERSON TRADES IMO...ALSO, The problem? In a league where stars such as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James dominate, it's difficult to come out ahead when trading a singular immense talent for any combination of players and draft picks, NO WAY IN HELL SHOULD THEY OR WILL THEY TRADE MELO FOR NOTHING, especially picks or unproven role players etc like we gave for iverson. PERIOD....end of melo trade possibilities.

Denver is stuck in quicksand, with the 15th pick which isn't bad might get a steal..but still it isn't looking good and there options aren't really open. They need defensive players next to Camby, and a post up big men who can score in the paint make some easy shots.

Trading Melo is not only hard but quite stupid for Denver. He isn't the problem lets start firing the head coach for not instilling any sort of defense and the offense is a 2 man show with everyone else watching them.

Trade A.I just for the sake of giving A.I a chance to win, it makes me sick as an old philly iverson fan, if we traded A.I I wanted it to be a contender clearly Denver has a chance of falling apart and missing the playoffs with everyone in the West improving like Portland,Houston with Yao back, and other West teams. I expect Denver to fall next season, if they don't do something fast..but trading Melo again is your cornerstone won't get any fair value for him.

DeOgar wrote:
Trade A.I just for the sake of giving A.I a chance to win, it makes me sick as an old philly iverson fan, if we traded A.I I wanted it to be a contender clearly Denver has a chance of falling apart and missing the playoffs with everyone in the West improving like Portland,Houston with Yao back, and other West teams. I expect Denver to fall next season, if they don't do something fast..but trading Melo again is your cornerstone won't get any fair value for him.

I do not get this whole attitude that the Nuggets owe Iverson anything. They should trade him for the best deal possible for the franchise.

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I do not get this whole attitude that the Nuggets owe Iverson anything. They should trade him for the best deal possible for the franchise.

I don't get this whole attitude that he owes that joke of an organization anything to stick around and change his game, just to still not be contending. When they made a trade for him, they were saying they wanted to win NOW...fast-forward a season and a half later, they have not addressed the backcourt issue, Melo unfortounatly isn't fully develped and has his own issues, the team doesn't show up everynight and Coach Karl still seems to not know what or how to put this team together. Doesn't seem like that organization came through on their end of the deal either.

DrewDawg0808 wrote:If melo is traded...im also looking for a new organization to follow.....im a melo fan first, but it wont and shouldnt happen anyway, so i should stay a nuggets fan. The FO would be crazy to not get rid of the older players who might have a bigger name than their actually worth to this team (no offense, but Iverson and camby and chucky and carter)...also, i hate how the words "While the Nuggets have given no indication they will actively shop Anthony, the constant drama in the life of their 23-year-old forward has become the source of enough frustration within team headquarters that Denver would be willing to listen if somebody made a trade offer too good to refuse for Melo." means that he is being shopped....NO, IT MEANS THAT EVERY TEAM... WHICH IS A BUSINESS...WILL CONSTANTLY LOOK AT TRADES TO MAKE THEIR TEAM BETTER....IT ALSO DOESNT MEAN THAT THEY ARE REALISTICALLY LISTENING...WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WILL DO, BLOW OF SOME ESPECIALLY THE ONES FOR MELO JR KLEIZA ETC AND REALLY LISTEN TO THE CAMBY AND POSSIBLY IVERSON TRADES IMO...ALSO, The problem? In a league where stars such as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James dominate, it's difficult to come out ahead when trading a singular immense talent for any combination of players and draft picks, NO WAY IN HELL SHOULD THEY OR WILL THEY TRADE MELO FOR NOTHING, especially picks or unproven role players etc like we gave for iverson. PERIOD....end of melo trade possibilities.

You know what, its unfortounate that some of you are so disrespectful and don't appreciate all the work Iverson and some of the other players has put into that team this year. Its really sickening, because some of you act like AI hasn't done sh*t for that team, when he was the only one that played the entire season, played through injury and came through the most out of everyone. There are things he could have changed and mistakes that were made, yes... but some of you kill me acting as if he came there and didn't do anything what so ever but sit on his @ss. Sorry he couldn't carry that team on his back to the second round in a flawed system, or was he supposed to take a complete back seat to Melo? Because i'm confused at what some people on this forum wanted out of this situation at this point. One minute its one thing and the next minute its the other. Everyone has a lot of soul searching to do this off season...Iverson included.

Quit crying, because they are not going to trade Carmelo. They are just doing a bunch of talking. Hopefully this will light a fire under Carmelos @ss and he will come back next year to prove all the nay-sayers wrong. I hope thats what happens for him. But at this point, I am losing all hope in this entire situation.

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I don't get this whole attitude that he owes that joke of an organization anything to stick around and change his game, just to still not be contending. When they made a trade for him, they were saying they wanted to win NOW...fast-forward a season and a half later, they have not addressed the backcourt issue, Melo unfortounatly isn't fully develped and has his own issues, the team doesn't show up everynight and Coach Karl still seems to not know what or how to put this team together. Doesn't seem like that organization came through on their end of the deal either.

back on this **** again? Last I heard AI was not having any problems getting his paychecks. After all they never promised to change the team for him, he promised to change for the team. As for the backcourt issue, a major part of the problem is having a sub 6' sg.

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You know what, its unfortounate that some of you are so disrespectful and don't appreciate all the work Iverson has put into this team this year. Its really sickening, because some of you act like he hasn't done sh*t for that team, when he was the only one that played the entire season, played through injury and came through the most out of everyone. There are things he could have changed, yes... but some of you kill me acting as if he came there and didn't do anything. Sorry he couldn't carry that team on his back to the second round in a flawed system. Some of you are quick to come in here talking about "older players this and older players that"...when those "older players" out play the younger ones, so what does that have to say about this teams situation right now? .

You forgot the part of how we should all love him for coming to Denver and gracing us with his presence.

Ballin02 wrote:-
Quit crying, because they are not going to trade Carmelo. They are just doing a bunch of talking. Hopefully this will light a fire under Carmelos @ss and he will come back next year to prove all the nay-sayers wrong. I hope thats what happens for him. But at this point, I am losing all hope in this entire situation.

as for arguing with you about what AI has or has not done for this team, I am not going to waste my time with that, as you have shown blatantly in the past that AI is a god and we are just all ungrateful ****, who know nothing about basketball.


alhtough I must say that for all your talk about respect you sure do seem to show very little of it to the team that pays your guy, the city that supports that team, and the fans who happen to disagree with you. Or is respect only a one way thing with you?

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back on this **** again? Last I heard AI was not having any problems getting his paychecks. After all they never promised to change the team for him, he promised to change for the team. As for the backcourt issue, a major part of the problem is having a sub 6' sg.

We are "back on this sh*t" because you keep bringing it there. They made a trade for a player and expected him to take that flawed team over the top. Why would you think that he is supposed to perform magic tricks with that backcourt? Basically playing two positions through out the entire season. I have never seen anything more ridiculous. Not only that, the way that team is set up to play seems to magnify Carmelo and Iversons weaknesses and not maximize their strengths. So yes, its dissappointing.

Also, Iverson never had this much of a problem before being a "sub 6 sg"...considering that he has played that position for a large part of his career and has been listed as one of the top 5 SG's of all time, he gets to this team and now all of a sudden its a problem? Go figure. He never promised anything, its some of you up in here being mad at him for not being a pure PG when you knew good and well he wasn't that player when the Nuggets traded for him. Last time I checked he's not sitting in the FO. It was their responsibility to find a PG to replace Andre...they didn't do that. The ones they do have is a backup PG (AC, in which gets bashed entirely too much considering the situation he was put in) and Adkins (who Karl didn't play once he returned from injury). If you don't like the way Iverson has played..go talk to Coach Karl considering that he is the one that asked him to play that way in the first place.

You forgot the part of how we should all love him for coming to Denver and gracing us with his presence.

If that is what you got out of my post, then feel free.

as for arguing with you about what AI has or has not done for this team, I am not going to waste my time with that, as you have shown blatantly in the past that AI is a god and we are just all ungrateful ****, who know nothing about basketball.

You feel the need to go out you're way and "waste your time" before with everyother person on here that doesn't agree that Iverson has come there and ruined a franchise that was supposidly on its way to greatness, and you couldn't help but to address my comment that wasn't towards you. And I said some of you sound ungreatful when it comes to BOTH Melo and Iverson at times, so I guess that means I "worship" Melo too. I don't like seeing him constantly thrown under the bus by people that claim to be fans of the team yet disrespect him any chance they get and think its okay. Theres a differense between constructive criticism and flat out hate....learn the differense. If you would give constructive criticism instead of the whole "Iverson is worthless", half the people wouldn't have anything to say.

alhtough I must say that for all your talk about respect you sure do seem to show very little of it to the team that pays your guy, the city that supports that team, and the fans who happen to disagree with you. Or is respect only a one way thing with you?

For the team that pays "my guy"? Is he not a part of YOUR team that you "love so much" as well? Wouldn't that make him one of your guys too? Oh, I forgot..you like every and anyone except for him. I lost respect for people like you a long time ago when I first came in here reading half of the garbage. And I, like a lot of people, lost respect for that organization with the way they handeled things this season..Why is it okay for some of YOU to say that... but not others? I have more of an issue with that organization then any player, city or fan at this point. There are some decent commenters and there are some like you, who show no respect to the players at times what so ever (unless its Melo ofcourse)...some don't even support ALL these players that play for YOUR team, so how are you going to preach about it towards someone else?

Face it REBEL, you're a hypocrite...you go out your way to respond to anyone that has anything remotely positive to say about Iverson. Someone comes in here and says they want to see Iverson go to a real contender..and here you come talking crazy. I was actually going to come in this post and just say that Melo is not going anywhere, untill I seen someone throwing everyone else under the bus. So again, why is it okay for some of you to do it...but not anyone else? Give me a break already.

the way melo played this season i'm all for a trade... BUT with all the talent he has (and he has enough talent to be a 26/10 player like i said before the playoffs) i'm just for a COACH that shows him, how to play the right way. coach brown would've had been great but it's over now that he's a bobcat.

but there's still pat riley. he could teach him some energy. riley is a coach who benches star players too. the only thing that bothers me is that we don't wanted a coach change (FO).

and IF we still trade him, i don't want only old players, i want young talent too. another problem is melo's decreasing trade value. but that's another story...

I'm not sure that this makes sense for Denver (or Phoenix for that matter).

How about a trade of Amare Stoudemire, and Leandro Barbosa

for

Carmelo Anthony, and Marcus Camby?

I find it stupid that Rebel still responds to Ballin. No matter what you say, A.I. is great and that's that. Just leave him alone. The idiot even said A.I. doesn't owe this team anything. Every player in the league owes the team that they're on something. They pay them to produce for them. The player job is to produce for the team which means doing whatever it takes to win. Iverson didn't do that.

I'm not even going to respond to you again. You fail to say A.I. does anything wrong. I can't believe you said we "act like A.I. hasn't done **** for this team", HELLO!!! He didn't.

A.I. stunted Iguodala growth, came here and **** up Carmelo. Notice how the Sixers improve tremendously once A.I. left (when he got traded, the Sixers went on a run and barely miss the playoffs. This year they got in.)

I don't understand how we can bash any player on this team except A.I. We're obligated to the team, not A.I. If we feel A.I. is holding us back, we're going to say so. Just like we're all over Karl, but I don't see anyone running to his defense. I don't see anyone running to Camby's defense when we say we should trade him, nor for Carter. So I don't see why we have to all be greatful for A.I. He didn't make the team better, we tried the experiment for 2 years, and it failed. We want him gone and want to go back to building around Carmelo and JR. Thats that.Why are we still suppose to want him if it didn't work?

It would be crazy to trade Melo.

The Nuggets, if they want to have any chance of contention, need to blow the current model up. I know we all want to have faith in our young Melo, considering his youth and ability, but I

Hey guys,

well, do you think your things will go all summer...AI haters , AI lovers, Melo lovers Melo haters, but most of it here is Melo believers.
I think people in Denver finally have a sort of franchise player in Denver, which they were expecting for a long time.
They start to love Carmelo and AI came:

Peanut says:

A.I. stunted Iguodala growth, came here and **** up Carmelo. Notice how the Sixers improve tremendously once A.I. left (when he got traded, the Sixers went on a run and barely miss the playoffs. This year they got in.) ,

well its bul****, this sentence is worth nothing, what about AI bringing the Sixers to the final against kobe and shaq....your statement is wrong, that was when he was 25-26years old....with snow,geiger,mckie and co

Before AI came to Denver , it was Melo-KM-JR-Camby, well i dd not see any more than first round...Melo an impact player for a team, NOT AT ALL, Melo a powerful and good player FOR SURE...

AI has to go i agree, because is the oldest of both, so he must go, even if i like the guy a lot...unfortunately he will probably finish like a Malone or the Glove...

Saying that he did s*** or doesn t help, please think wice before saying these things....Melo did s** this year, because AI was there "maybe", because Melo is not confident he can take over AI as the franchise player he should be ....DEFINITELY....the guy has unfortunately no carism at all, he is not a Lebron,neither Kobe, neither Duncan...

Peanut says:

A.I. He didn't make the team better, we tried the experiment for 2 years, and it failed. We want him gone and want to go back to building around Carmelo and JR.

Please, again, what experiment??????
Before AI, what happened, NOTHING, so with melo-JR-Camby and KM you can t do anything, and now you blame AI....





Let's see, even if staff goes totally and will get Lebron(virtual joke)....denver can t win.....

Players in this team are stars in the team but most of it stars in their lifetime...

JR-MELO and AI wants stats so there is already a problem, they have style and attitude...

if AI was in the Lakers or in Cleveland, he won t have played like that, Kobe could have score enough and Lebron too, Melo is most of the time a less good realisation and need a second scorer with him.


I am fed up of that, the best of this thread is to stop speaking about this and stopping defending Melo or AI, particularly your fake franchise player, problem here is either AI or MElo but not DENVER apparently.

best scenario for Denver:

1.Trade AI(for th fans to stop finding idiot excuse and him to try to finally get a contender team)

2.Trade JR because he will become a 2nd AI next year if AI is not there anymore

3.Trade Camby( he will be worth something for a poor team)

4.Get young players to really build around Melo if you all think he can bring denver to the final which i really doubt.

5. Give Melo - AI and Camby and try to get a mega 3 way or 4 way trade with 1st round picks and players to rebuild Denver with JR-Kleiza....

I will send Melo to phoenix for Amare, Camby to a team who need a center and to get a good and solid PG and trying to get a deal were AI will be traded for 2 average players( who are not willing to become superstar but team players)

PG
Amare
JR
Nene
Kleiza

Worst scenario will be to only trade AI and Camby, I don t see where denver can go, Nene contract is also a huge problem, also the west is to strong for Denver in my thought anyway, Kobe-Gasol will go for the next 2-3 years, Duncan will finih in San Antonio(this team play horrible but know how to pick players), Yao is in fact back, Dallas will change the team, Portland will get Oden back with Roy, Golden State might grow and definitely Phoenix will be here again...the time Denver wait Melo contract will expire and the guy will probably opt out himself to change team....


Soryy Rebel and Peanut but i don t see what you expect in a lonely AI trade or Camby....

the way melo played this season i'm all for a trade.

Where do you people get this concept that Melo had a poor season this year? 25.7/7.4/3.4 on stellar 49.2% shooting. I guess being the 4th leading scorer in the NBA, 2nd best rebounder at your position, 8th best passer at your position (needs improvement) and the most efficient high scoring wing player in the NBA qualifies as some sort of horrible season?

His scoring numbers have regressed significantly as a result of playing on a team with another #1 scoring option (not taking anything away from Iverson here). His turnovers need to go down, his defense definitely needs improve significantly (I believe this is partially a product of coaching but primarily on Melo), and there is room for improvement in his decision making with passing out of doubles (the natural passing ability is there he just doesn't use it much).

The man is 23 turning 24, if this organization gives up on him we will all be banging our heads against the wall in a few years when he will undeniably be one of the absolute premiere players in the NBA (if he isn't already). He needs to work on areas of his game other than scoring and rebounding, but I think it's safe to say those are 2 pretty important aspects of the game that he's pretty damn good at.