coangelo says melo needs to be in better shape

[sweetlou23]

whats up with that? i thought melo stays in shape.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/ ... ter_shape/

[SJustice1621]

No, actually Melo isn't or never was in the greatest of shape..I first thought it was just baby fat, but the guy is too old for that excuse..he needs to shape up or he'll turn out be a glorified version of Glenn Robinson.

[almost famous]

It was pretty (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for Jerry to bring it up now. Melo has NEVER been in great shape. Why wait until right before the Olympics to let him know? And why after he already put in 3 years of hard work for you. And why to the media? To call him out as being the only guy out of shape, whether it's true or not, is pretty insulting.

[cavsfan_osiris]

Melo is already Glenn Robinson 2.0, he's got to round his game off, get in shape and take it to another level if he wants to be a MVP type of player.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Melo is already Glenn Robinson 2.0, he's got to round his game off, get in shape and take it to another level if he wants to be a MVP type of player.

No he isn't.

It actually looked like his game was going to that next level of MVP before the AI trade. That seems to be what has set Melo back the most. Though he has still improved other areas of his game, need to ship AI out. Get back a good PG, and hope Karl tries to coach a little.

[ambiglight]

Melo is already Glenn Robinson 2.0, he's got to round his game off, get in shape and take it to another level if he wants to be a MVP type of player.

No he isn't.

It actually looked like his game was going to that next level of MVP before the AI trade. That seems to be what has set Melo back the most. Though he has still improved other areas of his game, need to ship AI out. Get back a good PG, and hope Karl tries to coach a little.

now its ai's fault that mofo is out of shape?

[SJustice1621]

Melo is already Glenn Robinson 2.0, he's got to round his game off, get in shape and take it to another level if he wants to be a MVP type of player.

Lol, it always AI's fault with you melo homers even when it's Melo's own fault he's out of shape. Why don't you stop making excuses for him, maybe that's why he's being considered more and more overrated each day.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

I wasn't directing my comment to Melo being in or out of shape. I was directing my comment to the MVP type level player statement. Melo was on the early list for MVP before the AI trade. Saying that doesn't make me a Melo homer. Its stating a fact.

Stop being AI homers and freaking out every time someone mentions AI.

[ambiglight]

regardless of what you intended to say, what you said pinned responsibility for melo's conditioning on AI.

that you even found a way to bring AI up in this thread is kind of pathetic...

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Uhh... no. What I said did not pin responsibility of Melo's conditioning on AI. If you think it did, I've already cleared that up.

What is actually pathetic is how over sensitive you AI homers are.

Melo getting to "MVP type of player" was mentioned. Melo was that before the AI trade. You can't refute that, unless you want to deny facts. I'm not attacking AI by saying that.

[Kevlo_911]

You do remember the b**** punch he threw that most likely caused him not to be an MVP candidate right?

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Yes, he **** up there. His play on the court was at that MVP level though. With AI in town, it hasn't been.

[ambiglight]

Ughh, melo can't control who he plays with but he can control his weight and conditioning.

Perhaps he should start focusing on the things he can change instead of worrying about the things he can't.

This is what you're missing when you try to deflect attention from his poor conditioning and pin his under-performance on the presence of another player.

Melo SHOULD be responsible for Melo.

[almost famous]

One of Melo's favorite hobbies is building his own extra toppings pizza. Nuff said.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Ughh, melo can't control who he plays with but he can control his weight and conditioning.

Perhaps he should start focusing on the things he can change instead of worrying about the things he can't.

This is what you're missing when you try to deflect attention from his poor conditioning and pin his under-performance on the presence of another player.

Melo SHOULD be responsible for Melo.

Are you stupid? I''ve missed nothing. You're the one missing what I've said. I was responding to the MVP comment. My comments had nothing to do with his conditioning, which I have already said. It's freaking sad you can't figure that out.

As for his conditioning, yes, that is all on him and he needs to keep himself in shape. It has nothing to do with AI. Happy now? Is that what you wanted to hear? I do believe that, but again, I was responding to something else.

Stop being so oversensitive when someone mentions AI. I shouldn't have has to explain this twice.

[cavsfan_osiris]

Melo is already Glenn Robinson 2.0, he's got to round his game off, get in shape and take it to another level if he wants to be a MVP type of player.

No he isn't.

It actually looked like his game was going to that next level of MVP before the AI trade. That seems to be what has set Melo back the most. Though he has still improved other areas of his game, need to ship AI out. Get back a good PG, and hope Karl tries to coach a little.

Melo is a slightly better version of Glenn Robinson, nothing more right now. I do agree with you, they should ship AI out ASAP. The experiment didn't work. Melo needs a point guard.

The sad thing is I think AI could fill that role, but George Karl doesn't want him to and for whatever reason AI can't see that he could help the team more as a distributor and floor general instead of a chucker.

All that said, Denver is still a really good team with AI and Melo being nothing but chuckers, but they just aren't close to being the championship caliber team I expected them to be. The funny thing is JR Smith might be the best all around player of the three of them right now. I really respect how JR Smith turned his season around and started playing solid ball on offensively and defensively.

[ambiglight]

Ughh, melo can't control who he plays with but he can control his weight and conditioning.

Perhaps he should start focusing on the things he can change instead of worrying about the things he can't.

This is what you're missing when you try to deflect attention from his poor conditioning and pin his under-performance on the presence of another player.

Melo SHOULD be responsible for Melo.

Are you stupid? I''ve missed nothing. You're the one missing what I've said. I was responding to the MVP comment. My comments had nothing to do with his conditioning, which I have already said. It's freaking sad you can't figure that out.

As for his conditioning, yes, that is all on him and he needs to keep himself in shape. It has nothing to do with AI. Happy now? Is that what you wanted to hear? I do believe that, but again, I was responding to something else.

Stop being so oversensitive when someone mentions AI. I shouldn't have has to explain this twice.

Who's really coming off as a "homer" thats overly sensitive about their favorite player being critiqued?

The guy finding a connection between melo being out of shape and AIs presence causing him to under-perform
or
the guy pointing out the foolishness of even bringing AI up in this conversation about melo's conditioning?

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Ughh, melo can't control who he plays with but he can control his weight and conditioning.

Perhaps he should start focusing on the things he can change instead of worrying about the things he can't.

This is what you're missing when you try to deflect attention from his poor conditioning and pin his under-performance on the presence of another player.

Melo SHOULD be responsible for Melo.

Are you stupid? I''ve missed nothing. You're the one missing what I've said. I was responding to the MVP comment. My comments had nothing to do with his conditioning, which I have already said. It's freaking sad you can't figure that out.

As for his conditioning, yes, that is all on him and he needs to keep himself in shape. It has nothing to do with AI. Happy now? Is that what you wanted to hear? I do believe that, but again, I was responding to something else.

Stop being so oversensitive when someone mentions AI. I shouldn't have has to explain this twice.

Who's really coming off as a "homer" thats overly sensitive about their favorite player being critiqued?

The guy finding a connection between melo being out of shape and AIs presence causing him to under-perform
or
the guy pointing out the foolishness of even bringing AI up in this conversation about melo's conditioning?

I haven't connected Melo being out of shape with AI. So stop doing whatever drugs you're doing. I even went and said I didn't. Try reading what you quoted. Its in there.

[ambiglight]

a coach suggests that melo needs to get in better shape.

you take that as an opportunity to affirm melo would be mvp of the league if not for AI's presence on the team.



and you're the sober one...

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Melo is already Glenn Robinson 2.0, he's got to round his game off, get in shape and take it to another level if he wants to be a MVP type of player.

No he isn't.

It actually looked like his game was going to that next level of MVP before the AI trade. That seems to be what has set Melo back the most. Though he has still improved other areas of his game, need to ship AI out. Get back a good PG, and hope Karl tries to coach a little.

Melo is a slightly better version of Glenn Robinson, nothing more right now. I do agree with you, they should ship AI out ASAP. The experiment didn't work. Melo needs a point guard.

The sad thing is I think AI could fill that role, but George Karl doesn't want him to and for whatever reason AI can't see that he could help the team more as a distributor and floor general instead of a chucker.

All that said, Denver is still a really good team with AI and Melo being nothing but chuckers, but they just aren't close to being the championship caliber team I expected them to be. The funny thing is JR Smith might be the best all around player of the three of them right now. I really respect how JR Smith turned his season around and started playing solid ball on offensively and defensively.

Finally, someone who decided not to freak out to my post.

I actually don't think shipping out AI is as important, but getting a coach in who believes in a play book could help. One that would play AI at PG could.

I just think back to when the team was basically Najera/Melo/Camby/JR/Miller and the team was playing well (winning 65% of their games I think) with Melo scoring 31+ PPG, 50% FG and 4 assists a game.. if Melo hadn't screwed up in NY, would have been better to not bring in AI and see if the team and Melo could continue the great play.

But slightly better version of Glenn Robinson? Hey, you could at least call him much better version. Besides Melo's first two years in the league, Melo shoots a lot better than Glen did, gets to the FT a lot more. He scores a lot more efficiently. Plus he does hand out more assists, lol.

And heck, maybe back being the main focal point on offense will keep Melo motivated to stay in shape. ZOMG! I'm not blaming AI there. That's knocking Melo.