Was drafting Carmelo a mistake?

Ewingfan · Post #1 » by **Ewingfan** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:57 pm

Its hindsight but you've got to wonder was getting Carmelo the right choice. Would the Denver Nuggets be better if they drafted.........................................................................................................

DWAYNE WADE.

Now that's something to really ponder. I want you guys to be honest. Who would you rather have Carmelo or DWADE.

I like Carmelo he's a cool dude. I met him in person and I was impressed how nice he was but If I had the choice i would pick Wade. Melo is a great scorer but he cant do anything else to elevate his team. I dont know if Wade could win a championship with this current Denver team but i think he would have gotten Denver out of the first round.

Peanut · Post #2 » by **Peanut** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:05 pm

Well if we don't land Shaq, that means no ring,and our best player is injury prone... Nope, I'm fine with Melo.

Ewingfan · Post #3 » by **Ewingfan** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:26 pm

Peanut wrote:Well if we don't land Shaq, that means no ring,and our best player is injury prone... Nope, I'm fine with Melo.

I knew someone would bring up that point but also remember in his first year with no shaq he won a first round seven game series hagainst the Hornets. Also injuries notwithstanding he does everything else that Melo cant do. Defend, Pass and Plays big in big games. Carmelo's teams havent even won more than one game in any single series.

Kevlo_911 · Post #4 » by **Kevlo_911** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:52 pm

I would take Wade over Melo any day of the week. Wade is smarter, faster, plays 109394838583485983x better defense. There's more but then people will get mad...

almost famous · Post #5 » by **almost famous** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:54 pm

OK.. First of all, Melo did not get a chance to play the Hornets, or any other weak eastern team. He played Minnesota, who at the time were the hottest team in the league. There is no doubt in my mind that Melo would have much more success in the East, no matter what team he was on.

Second, as stated before, Melo has never had arguably the best center in NBA history to show him what it takes to win. Our team has never been as well built around Melo as that Heat team was around wade.

Now, all that said, I'd take Wade over Melo for many reasons. It's really not even close.

We can't worry about that though. Many teams made mistakes in that draft.

Squire · Post #6 » by **Squire** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:06 am

almost famous wrote:We can't worry about that though. Many teams made mistakes in that draft.

^ like my detroit pistons.

but on topic drafting melo wasnt a mistake be happy milicic didnt fall to you guys. I would take wade over melo because if i was a GM i rather have a SG superstar than a superstar at the SF..

meloworm · Post #7 » by **meloworm** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:43 am

Of course, D-Wade has had a better career to this point, but can you imagine if the Nuggets had passed on Carmelo at the time? Sure it may seem like a mistake right now, but come on. The Nuggets had no choice but to select Carmelo Anthony. Kiki would have been fired on the spot had he taken anyone else. So it may seem like a mistake, but there was no way they could have drafted D-Wade at that time.

Ewingfan · Post #8 » by **Ewingfan** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:46 am

Squire wrote:
almost famous wrote:We can't worry about that though. Many teams made mistakes in that draft.

^ like my detroit pistons.

but on topic drafting melo wasnt a mistake be happy milicic didnt fall to you guys. I would take wade over melo because if i was a GM i rather have a SG superstar than a superstar at the SF..

unless that superstar SF is Lebron or Larry Bird. Yeah its a good thing they didnt take Milicic. Sometimes the draft is hit or miss but these draft experts and scouts need to stop hyping up these international prospects. I mean come on Yi Jianlian(the jury is still out on him),Andrea Bargnani(jesus christ) but Milicic takes the cake. You know maybe George Karl just doesn't know how to coach Melo. Also Doug Moe is a legend in Denver and Adrian Dantley is a hall of famer but can Karl hire a defensive coach.

Ewingfan · Post #9 » by **Ewingfan** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:56 am

Ewingfan wrote:
Squire wrote:
almost famous wrote:We can't worry about that though. Many teams made mistakes in that draft.

^ like my detroit pistons.

but on topic drafting melo wasnt a mistake be happy milicic didnt fall to you guys. I would take wade over melo because if i was a GM i rather have a SG superstar than a superstar at the SF..

unless that superstar SF is Lebron or Larry Bird. Yeah its a good thing they didnt take Milicic. Sometimes the draft is hit or miss but these draft experts and scouts need to stop hyping up these international prospects. I mean come on Yi Jianlian(the jury is still out on him),Andrea Bargnani(jesus christ) but Milicic takes the cake. You know maybe George Karl just doesn't know how to coach Melo. Also Doug Moe is a legend in Denver and Adrian Dantley is a hall of famer but can Karl hire a defensive coach.

thats true melo was supposed to be a sure thing. he definitely is a great scorer. I thought he was better than Paul Pierce this year until Paul did his thing in the playoffs. But you know what Paul's total playoff average this year was a little better than 19 per game. If Carmelo was on Boston I bet he be celebrating a championship also.

eathy · Post #10 » by **eathy** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:47 am

uhhh.

Wade is injury-prone, and we don't have anyone to fill in the SF spot. I doubt we'd make the playoffs with him and without Melo considering that we're in a 10x harder conference.

Kiki purposely put a **** team that season to get Lebron Melo or Darko. We're lucky we didn't get one of the other.

mutumba · Post #11 » by **mutumba** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:32 am

Was drafting Carmelo a mistake? Absolutely not.

He is a proven 25 ppg scorer in this league (at the very least), an all-star, and an Olympian. Of course Dwade is all of those things (albeit injury-prone) with an NBA championship, but there is no way to know how they would have developed without their respective programs.

Drafting Nikoloz Tskitishvili, now that was a mistake.

RRFB · Post #12 » by **RRFB** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:23 am

What's the toughest team Wade has faced in the first round? I guarantee none of them are as good as the t-wolves, spurs, and lakers teams we have played. There's no doubt in my mind Melo/the Nuggets would have had the same success in the playoffs if in the Eastern conference.

Despite being in the tougher conference, and being on injury ridden teams, Melo has(single-handedly) lead this team to the playoffs every single season. I'm happy with that.

milehigh · Post #13 » by **milehigh** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:26 am

a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) monkey on acid would of drafted Melo #3 that draft. Hindsight and what ifs I try to stay away from that BS. I remember how pissed I was when I found out we got the 3rd pick and I thought we not only missed out on LeBron but on Melo to. Thank god for Darko.

Maf · Post #14 » by **Maf** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:56 am

watching Wade playing at the Olympics... YES. He is BACK and even better.

and Shaq arguably the best center in history? Yeez, Wilt just turned in his grave a little...

Nuggetsfanduh98 · Post #15 » by **Nuggetsfanduh98** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:35 am

Melo. You Can Can Sig me or whatever you want but I have a extremly good feeling that this year we will see the Melo of old especially if we tag the gold.

ambiglight · Post #16 » by **ambiglight** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:37 am

Ewingfan wrote:Its hindsight but you've got to wonder was getting Carmelo the right choice. Would the Denver Nuggets be better if they drafted.........................................................................................................

DWAYNE WADE.

Now that's something to really ponder. I want you guys to be honest. Who would you rather have Carmelo or DWADE.

I like Carmelo he's a cool dude. I met him in person and I was impressed how nice he was but If I had the choice i would pick Wade. Melo is a great scorer but he cant do anything else to elevate his team. I dont know if Wade could win a championship with this current Denver team but i think he would have gotten Denver out of the first round.

Nobody could have predicted that wade would be the player he is now. Denver made the smart decision, which wasnt necessarily the best decision given what we know now. But who's to say melo doesnt catch up with Wade one day?

Post #17 » by **The Rebel** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:04 am

Nobody in the world would have taken Wade with the third pick in that draft, so while hindsight is 20/20, the Nuggets made the smart and safe choice in drafting Melo. For some of you newer fans though, the Nuggets tried to get the 5th pick in the draft that year, but Riley backed out of the deal.

As for Wade VS Melo, I still have my reservations, as has been stated he did get his team out of the 1st round his rookie season, but what many fail to mention is that he was the third option behind Odom (who had a career allstar type year while putting up 17, 4, and 10 for the season) and Eddie Jones were the 1st two options. Other then that he has looked like a slightly below average all star when Shaq was not on the court, and his team's record shows that. Add to that the injury history missing 31 games in each of the last 2 seasons and I am not sure he is a guy I would rather have over Melo at this point, if he plays throughout this season like he has shown in the olympics it is Wade hands down, but I need to see more then him lead his team to more then a sub 500 record as he has done as the main guy the last year or so.

DaFan334 · Post #18 » by **DaFan334** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:57 pm

That year we were more likely to draft Bosh than Wade. He was never that good in college and he was a senior when he came out, which was very unappealing when the other top 5 in the draft were 18 or 19.

denvers_finest · Post #19 » by **denvers_finest** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:50 pm

The Rebel wrote:As for Wade VS Melo, I still have my reservations, as has been stated he did get his team out of the 1st round his rookie season, but what many fail to mention is that he was the third option behind Odom (who had a career allstar type year while putting up 17, 4, and 10 for the season) and Eddie Jones were the 1st two options.

Butler??

Anyway, I'm not sure that I would call drafting Melo a mistake. Its never a mistake to draft an all-star. Is he as good as wade? Arguable now, but there was no argument at the time, Melo was the sure thing.

Post #20 » by **The Rebel** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:10 pm

DaFan334 wrote:That year we were more likely to draft Bosh than Wade. He was never that good in college and he was a senior when he came out, which was very unappealing when the other top 5 in the draft were 18 or 19.

It has been said by people I trust that Wade was the target if they could have gotten that deal done. Kiki fell in love with Wade after the workout he had in Denver.

denvers_finest wrote:
The Rebel wrote:As for Wade VS Melo, I still have my reservations, as has been stated he did get his team out of the 1st round his rookie season, but what many fail to mention is that he was the third option behind Odom (who had a career allstar type year while putting up 17, 4, and 10 for the season) and Eddie Jones were the 1st two options.

Butler??

Butler did not have a good year that year, it was the season after his rookie year, and many thought his rookie year may have been a fluke he looked so bad.