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I'm afraid we'll end up like the Suns and have old, overpaid, washed up players.

We should rebuild around Nene. I would be open to trading Melo and JR if we can get all-star players/draft pics/cap space... in return.


Discuss.

Is this a **** joke? The Nuggets just had their best season in their NBA history, and have their most important pieces under contract for the next two years. Nene, JR, and Melo with Nene being the oldest and still not yet 27. You don't rebuild because a couple of role players hit their 30s.

Another thing is that you do not trade your superstar, to rebuild around a soft injury prone big man. If anything you trade the bigman, and hope some team gives you younger big men and picks.

As for your Suns reference, they did not fall apart from age, they fell apart due to some idiotic trades and a change in their philosophy, without a total turnover of their personnel. You don't go from a SSOL offense into a team that wants their main focus on defense, without a significant change in their personnel, and Nash, Amare, and Barbosa should have been the 1st ones to go if that was the plan.

The Rebel wrote:Is this a **** joke? The Nuggets just had their best season in their NBA history, and have their most important pieces under contract for the next two years. Nene, JR, and Melo with Nene being the oldest and still not yet 27. You don't rebuild because a couple of role players hit their 30s.

Another thing is that you do not trade your superstar, to rebuild around a soft injury prone big man. If anything you trade the bigman, and hope some team gives you younger big men and picks.

As for your Suns reference, they did not fall apart from age, they fell apart due to some idiotic trades and a change in their philosophy, without a total turnover of their personnel. You don't go from a SSOL offense into a team that wants their main focus on defense, without a significant change in their personnel, and Nash, Amare, and Barbosa should have been the 1st ones to go if that was the plan.

No, this isn't a joke. The Lakers, Rockets, Trailblazers, Jazz are currently better and younger than us. We would be a 5th seed next season with the current rosters; we got lucky to get the 2nd seed this season.

Melo is not a superstar, an all-star player but he's not in the DWade/Kobe/LeBron/D12 category. He' replaceable...I would rather have Durant or Roy instead of him. Players like Melo grown on trees.

Billups is a year older and we need to keep that in mind.

What has Durant done to prove he is more valuable than Melo? IMO, Durant's ceiling is where Melo is at right now. I don't agree that players like Melo grow on trees, he's the second best SF in the league, he's one of the best rebounders and passers for his position, and one of the best scorers in the entire league. He has finaly shown a comitment to defense. If you can trade Melo for a better player, then go for it, but I don't know why you would trade him for someone who MIGHT be as good as he already is.

All of the teams you mentioned that are "better" than the Nuggets have some big decisions to make. Utah might lose both of their PFs this year. The Lakers have several key plays that will be FA this offseason including Ariza and Odom. The Trailblazers have another year or two before all of that youth goes off their rookie deals, and they have to start resigning these players to big contracts. They will likley be able to keep the core, but part of what makes so good is their depth, which they are only able to afford because everyone is so cheap. Not to mention that only one of those teams have proven that they are actually better than us right now.

The Nuggets have most of their core signed for the next two years. I say you tweak the roster where needed and see how far this team can get. If they don't make any progress, or worse yet revert back to a first round exit team, then you can rebuild in two years when you have salary coming off the books. But at this point, I don't see what rebuilding is going to accomplish, esspecially at a time when other teams are trying to cut salary, and half the league is hoping to strike it rich in 2010. Our window is now, lets see what they can do.

weird... wonder why he got waived.

KashyCableMan wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Is this a **** joke? The Nuggets just had their best season in their NBA history, and have their most important pieces under contract for the next two years. Nene, JR, and Melo with Nene being the oldest and still not yet 27. You don't rebuild because a couple of role players hit their 30s.

Another thing is that you do not trade your superstar, to rebuild around a soft injury prone big man. If anything you trade the bigman, and hope some team gives you younger big men and picks.

As for your Suns reference, they did not fall apart from age, they fell apart due to some idiotic trades and a change in their philosophy, without a total turnover of their personnel. You don't go from a SSOL offense into a team that wants their main focus on defense, without a significant change in their personnel, and Nash, Amare, and Barbosa should have been the 1st ones to go if that was the plan.

No, this isn't a joke. The Lakers, Rockets, Trailblazers, Jazz are currently better and younger than us. We would be a 5th seed next season with the current rosters; we got lucky to get the 2nd seed this season.

Melo is not a superstar, an all-star player but he's not in the DWade/Kobe/LeBron/D12 category. He' replaceable...I would rather have Durant or Roy instead of him. Players like Melo grown on trees.

Billups is a year older and we need to keep that in mind.

Now Nene is soft?

PeTBuLL wrote:

KashyCableMan wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Is this a **** joke? The Nuggets just had their best season in their NBA history, and have their most important pieces under contract for the next two years. Nene, JR, and Melo with Nene being the oldest and still not yet 27. You don't rebuild because a couple of role players hit their 30s.

Another thing is that you do not trade your superstar, to rebuild around a soft injury prone big man. If anything you trade the bigman, and hope some team gives you younger big men and picks.

As for your Suns reference, they did not fall apart from age, they fell apart due to some idiotic trades and a change in their philosophy, without a total turnover of their personnel. You don't go from a SSOL offense into a team that wants their main focus on defense, without a significant change in their personnel, and Nash, Amare, and Barbosa should have been the 1st ones to go if that was the plan.

No, this isn't a joke. The Lakers, Rockets, Trailblazers, Jazz are currently better and younger than us. We would be a 5th seed next season with the current rosters; we got lucky to get the 2nd seed this season.

Melo is not a superstar, an all-star player but he's not in the DWade/Kobe/LeBron/D12 category. He' replaceable...I would rather have Durant or Roy instead of him. Players like Melo grown on trees.

Billups is a year older and we need to keep that in mind.

Now Nene is soft?

Petbull...you have to admit...Nene should be a bigger beast than he plays sometimes....

KashyCableMan wrote:Players like Melo grown on trees.

you will never be taken seriously here.

leave.

don't come back.

PeTBuLL wrote:

KashyCableMan wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Is this a **** joke? The Nuggets just had their best season in their NBA history, and have their most important pieces under contract for the next two years. Nene, JR, and Melo with Nene being the oldest and still not yet 27. You don't rebuild because a couple of role players hit their 30s.

Another thing is that you do not trade your superstar, to rebuild around a soft injury prone big man. If anything you trade the bigman, and hope some team gives you younger big men and picks.

As for your Suns reference, they did not fall apart from age, they fell apart due to some idiotic trades and a change in their philosophy, without a total turnover of their personnel. You don't go from a SSOL offense into a team that wants their main focus on defense, without a significant change in their personnel, and Nash, Amare, and Barbosa should have been the 1st ones to go if that was the plan.

No, this isn't a joke. The Lakers, Rockets, Trailblazers, Jazz are currently better and younger than us. We would be a 5th seed next season with the current rosters; we got lucky to get the 2nd seed this season.

Melo is not a superstar, an all-star player but he's not in the DWade/Kobe/LeBron/D12 category. He' replaceable...I would rather have Durant or Roy instead of him. Players like Melo grown on trees.

Billups is a year older and we need to keep that in mind.

Now Nene is soft?

Yes Nene is soft. Outside of you I have probably been Nene's biggest supporter on this site, and still love the guy. But when teams have figured out that if you play Nene physical he backs down, and Nene has done nothing to dispel that rumor, then yes the guy is soft. He as well as a couple of other Nuggets need to learn to play through the bumps and cheap shots that they receive without the constant whining to the refs and letting the crap get in his head, otherwise he will not get any respect. And teams will continue to do it to him.

Trading Melo now would be stupid. Nuggets need to get rid of K-Mart. They should make a trade to get Chris Bosh. They may have to give up JR though. Don't think the Raptors would trade Bosh for K-Mart straight up. This is what I tried.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5101813

b-nukle wrote:Trading Melo now would be stupid. Nuggets need to get rid of K-Mart. They should make a trade to get Chris Bosh. They may have to give up JR though. Don't think the Raptors would trade Bosh for K-Mart straight up. This is what I tried.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5101813

Why would we trade 2 starters for an expiring contract who will most likely want to play for a big-market team?

So you complain that Melo isn't a superstar and is not the kind of player we should build around. Then you suggest trading him and Jr so we can build around Nene? You sir, are an idiot.

Rebel, work with me, lets suppose you´re a basketball player, a good one, and u did go to the park and started your weekend basketball, 1st ten minutes of the game, you worked well shared the ball made your baskets and you and your team played well, the game continued, ppl. forgot you in the game, you came up and down, playing defense and tryed to help the offense, running a lot and the ball never got back, you started ask why? im playing defense, running, i scored, where is the ball? Why ppl. who supposed to be playing a team sport not a single one are jacking 3´s, trying to win by himself, forcing layup´s and, not passing a single ball to me? Whats happening?

Rebel, when those´s stuffs happens, i speaking only for me, i quit the team (not leave) i quit, i´m pretty sure that Nene don´t do stuff´s like me, but i have the same sure about Nene angry and aggressiveness will only come when ppl. start to look to at him and involve.

Sorry for the english, veeery long text.

From reports, Nene doesn't demand the ball a lot.

and if u double Nene in the post 9/10 times he'll turn the ball over.

RRFB wrote:So you complain that Melo isn't a superstar and is not the kind of player we should build around. Then you suggest trading him and Jr so we can build around Nene? You sir, are an idiot.

Melo should stay with denver until he is old and then we can move his expiring contract for something

Until then... don't trade him. Talk about being a lock for the playoffs each year. I don't want to mess with that. No real Nuggets fan should.

Melo and J.R. Smith are a must!

Screw it, Nene is clearly too old to build around. Build around Kleiza, immediately. All excess weight needs to be traded or released.

MHZ wrote:Screw it, Nene is clearly too old to build around. Build around Kleiza, immediately. All excess weight needs to be traded or released.

Kleiza is 24 that is way to old, you need to build around Petro and Weems, that's the best way for success in this league.

Im a Knick fan...we'll gladly take Melo off your hands But on the real Melo is no doubt a top tier talent and superstar. He is nasty

Build around AC