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Big TPE expires in a week 

Post#1 » by basketbob » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:49 am

The $7.4 M TPE left from the Chauncey deal expires in a week. I haven't heard any rumblings that the Nugs will use it, but I thought I'd see if anybody has any great ideas.
This one's too expensive (like $40 M over two years, including the lux tax), but fun to think about:
Denver uses two TPEs to get MGasol and MJaric from Memphis.
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Post#2 » by basketbob » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:35 am

Similar deals could maybe net Galinari with Jefferies (leaving the Knicks with no players and a big pile of $$ next summer), or Hawes with Garcia (not useless, but that's a looooong contract).

Of the players making more than DEN's smaller TPEs and less than $7.4M who teams might be willing to let go for the savings, Ryan Gomes is the only one I've found who seems like he might be worth it.
And Love's injury might make MIN less willing to deal him this week. Am I missing somebody?
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Post#3 » by J Smitty » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:45 am

Honestly, I doubt that any of those deals would even be available. Sure those teams would like to dump those terrible contracts, but I can't see any of them including quality young players to do it. Especially when you're talking about **** teams like that, who have smaller payrolls. There isn't nearly as much desperation to cut salary(again at the expense of good young players).


The only deals I could see other teams doing that have them dumping a player for nothing more than the TPE, would be for the bad contracts - like those you mentioned - and nothing else. And as such has been the case, the Nuggets will not do that. That's why the TPE will most likely not be used.

If we were able to have it until the deadline, maybe something would come up where a team would be willing to dump a quality player for cap space....but I just don't see it happening at the start of the season like this. We do have a 3.7 mill TPE though, so there might be a chance we do something with that one. That's about it though, IMO.
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Post#4 » by el loco » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:52 am

Smitty is right, the big TPE is as good as expired imo. Don't the Nuggets have a couple of 3 + million TPE's (Atkins trade, and the Hunter trade)?
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Post#5 » by carrottop12 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:03 am

You losers want Matt Harpring?
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Post#6 » by el loco » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:50 am

Bat wrote:You losers want Matt Harpring?


Throw in the 2010 1st rounder from the Knicks and you have a deal :lol: I thought he was going to retire? What did he do come up with 6.5 million reasons not to?

^^^^If this doesn't work, he can just keep on losing where he is at.
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Post#7 » by carrottop12 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:37 pm

Just take him.
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Post#8 » by The Rebel » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:27 pm

Bat wrote:Just take him.


We wouldn't do that to you guys, we know how you love those clean cut white guys out there in Utah.
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Post#9 » by basketbob » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:36 pm

I'm sure y'all are right, and the time of year is definitely a factor, but it does put into perspective how bad a move the Nugs' sale of their 2nd to Houston was on draft night when DeJuan Freakin Blair was available. I mean if you can't get Gasol by dumping $40 mil (OK, so the Griz only save $20 mil, and it's $10 M/yr as capspace), then $3M + 2nd rounder salary looks pretty reasonable for a ready to ball rebounding machine, even if he did get his knees at the same store as Leon Powe. Just had to go on record with that before Blair's bandwagon got too full. Dude averaged 37/17 per 40 min this preseason. Ouch!
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Post#10 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:56 pm

Denver uses two TPEs to get MGasol and MJaric from Memphis.

If Memphis was crazy enough to offer this deal, Denver would have to jump on it.

But I am high on MGasol too. Gives the Nuggets the big body in the middle they've been lacking. Can slide Nene to PF, where he'll be able to destroy most other PF's in the league. Team will match up with the LAL much better. Jaric may not see any playing time, but if he does, he adds another three point shooter to the team. Only has 7 and 7.6 million left on his deal. I know it will be doubled, but I believe that team has a much higher chance of winning the title than this one would. And Stan does have the money.. he supposedly really wants to win, why not push the team over the edge? It isn't like the AI deal. This would be adding a piece that fits.
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Post#11 » by The Rebel » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:07 pm

Memphis is not going to be trying move Gasol anytime soon, although I have heard some really good things about that haddidi they have on their roster, and he would probably be the low man on the totem pole after they drafted Thabeet this summer.

A couple of other guys I would not mind them bringing in as our 4th big and that may be available would be Tony Battie, Magliore, Elson, or Nick Collison. All of which are servicable as 4th big men, have 1 or two years remaining on their contracts, are veterans, and could play 20+ minutes a night in the case of injuries. I think any of them would also be an upgrade on Allen.
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Post#12 » by el loco » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:29 pm

The Rebel wrote:Memphis is not going to be trying move Gasol anytime soon, although I have heard some really good things about that haddidi they have on their roster, and he would probably be the low man on the totem pole after they drafted Thabeet this summer.

A couple of other guys I would not mind them bringing in as our 4th big and that may be available would be Tony Battie, Magliore, Elson, or Nick Collison. All of which are servicable as 4th big men, have 1 or two years remaining on their contracts, are veterans, and could play 20+ minutes a night in the case of injuries. I think any of them would also be an upgrade on Allen.

I started to put up a response about Battie last night myself, but stoppped because I know it will never happen, but he could be had for the tpe, he is in the last year of his deal, so it would still be an expiring contract.
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Post#13 » by SnakefromHell » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:17 am

Once in a while, I agree with you Nutty man.

Gasol would be great, he'd be instantly our starting center, KMart off the bench. If he sulks and moans, we can Mar-"bury" him on the bench. But I don't think, as easygoing (aka idiotic) as Chris Wallace is, they're ready to give him up.

Someone mentions Gallinari, I like that, he can really shoot, most people know that, but what they don't really get to see is he is a ball handler, can make plays for others (not necessarily for himself), he can do little things... he's a more complete player than Kleiza. What Kleiza got on him is probably running and physicality.

I just hope we use something, mostly because I'm bored... I hope we use it to get a legit big man who can play, who can box out consistently, who can catch passes without fumbling the ball, who wants the ball when the ball is shot.
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Post#14 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:23 am

Stan just needs to find out what Jerry Buss used to blackmail Wallace to get the Pau Gasol trade done, then use it to Denver's advantage.

Another possible name would be Kurt Thomas or Jeff Foster. Not as sexy, but would add needed depth.
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Post#15 » by It_Was_Typed » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:43 pm

I don't think the team needs much (then again, I'm an outsider looking in).

Maybe some depth, so how about Kurt Thomas and Charlie Bell from Milwaukee? Couple of veterans who can play when called upon. Total up their salaries and it's about the TPE.
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Post#16 » by JRMelo15 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:03 am

I think we need to use it. Last night's game proved that we need a solid 4th big that can play in Karl's rotation (Allen can't rebound and Petro is garbage time player). Thomas or Foster would be a good pick up. They do not ask for a lot of touches on the offensive end and are decent rebounders. If we get them for TPE, we should waive Graham and Allen/Petro (we don't need 6 bigs). I'd like to see this rotation:

C - Nene (32) Andersen (16)
PF - Martin (26) Foster/Thomas (17) Andersen (5)
SF - Melo (38) JR (10)
SG - Afflalo (18) JR (20) Carter (10)
PG - Billups (30) Lawson (18)

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Post#17 » by Powder Blue » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:52 am

Remember whoever they bring in will cost them double because of the salary cap, They aren't going to pay double for a 4th big man that GK wouldn't even play.
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Post#18 » by el loco » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:51 am

Powder Blue wrote:Remember whoever they bring in will cost them double because of the salary cap, They aren't going to pay double for a 4th big man that GK wouldn't even play.


That money has already been spent on a soccer team :lol:
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Post#19 » by pickIBL » Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:35 pm

with Raja Bell injured I wonder if the Nuggets could opt to use two TPEs one on Jarvis Hayes who is versatile and definitely would make Kleiza a memory. The second could be Nick Collison.
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