Who Will Win Rookie of the Year in the N.L?

bigboy1234 · Post #41 » by **bigboy1234** » Mon Oct 1, 2007 8:05 pm

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:The way this thread is going it's sounding like none of you think Braun's stats are even that good. No rookie has put up these good of stats since Pujols. You can't dismiss that. This will probably be the closest vote in awhile for ROY.

Doubt it will be close, I think Braun will easily win although he shouldn't. It's also nice that you're finally starting to give Tulo credit. If Braun was playing in OF, and not playing all time bad defense at 3rd, it would be a lot easier to say Braun is better though, just another case if you guys being Yosted. :wink:

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #42 » by **Buck You** » Mon Oct 1, 2007 11:33 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Doubt it will be close, I think Braun will easily win although he shouldn't. It's also nice that you're finally starting to give Tulo credit. If Braun was playing in OF, and not playing all time bad defense at 3rd, it would be a lot easier to say Braun is better though, just another case if you guys being Yosted.

Well Braun learned 3b in his 2nd last or last year of College so he's still trying to learn the kinks. He just has problems with his footwork and the easy plays. He thinks too much out there.

Scrub Sura · Post #43 » by **Scrub Sura** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 4:57 am

Braun likely will win, but it really should be Tulowitzki.

Not to say he hasn't had a good year, but he's an absolute butcher in the field. To the point where he had to be removed several times due to being such a liability.

Tulowitzki stats are just as good, plays on a better team(that made the playoffs, in a much tougher division) and is defensively solid at SS. Not to mention, he came up big tonight in the clutch.

It's not a shot at Braun and what he's done, but people will just look at his HR numbers and vote accordingly

L-Burna89 · Post #44 » by **L-Burna89** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 4:59 am

Scrub Sura wrote:Tulowitzki stats are just as good, plays on a better team(that made the playoffs, in a much tougher division) and is defensively solid at SS. Not to mention, he came up big tonight in the clutch.

His defense is 'solid'? I believe hes having one of the best defensive seasons by any shortstop in history.

SportsWorld · Post #45 » by **SportsWorld** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 5:04 am

Tulowitzki got 2 doubles, 1 single, and a triple in the biggest game of his young career. He also made a few great defensive plays. What happened to Braun down the stretch run?

Black Jesus 1 · Post #46 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 5:13 am

F it. Give it to Tulowitzki. He can hit and play D. Braun is pathetic on defense.

trwi7 · Post #47 » by **trwi7** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 5:29 am

SportsWorld wrote:What happened to Braun down the stretch run?

He only had a .998 OPS in September.

Black Jesus 1 · Post #48 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 6:16 am

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He only had a .998 OPS in September.

and 3 million errors in a critical game in the last week

WEFFPIM · Post #49 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 6:23 am

It's amazing how a bunch of people (my people, if you will) can take a guy and never stop posting about him, never stop hyping him up, and that guy turns into a hated individual on this forum.

trwi7 · Post #50 » by **trwi7** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 7:06 am

willeatfire4playoffsinmil wrote:It's amazing how a bunch of people (my people, if you will) can take a guy and never stop posting about him, never stop hyping him up, and that guy turns into a hated individual on this forum.

Hey I stopped posting about him until now. And he's not immune to criticism either. I've said for a long time that he needs to draw more walks.

I personally don't care who wins MVP or ROY because the bottom line is the Brewers aren't in the playoffs and that's all I care about.

34Celtic · Post #51 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 5:17 pm

I really don't see how anyone could vote for Braun over Tulowitzki. Ok, well I can see it.

Tulowitzki is clearly the all around better player and might be the best defensive shortstop in baseball. Within 5 years he will be the best ALL AROUND shortstop, if not player in the league...he is that good.

Post #52 » by **GYBE** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 5:41 pm

34Celtic wrote:Within 5 years he will be the best ALL AROUND shortstop, if not player in the league...he is that good.

Take it easy Champ. Why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for awhile.

IrishRainbow · Post #53 » by **IrishRainbow** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 7:34 pm

Scrub Sura wrote:Braun he had to be removed several times due to being such a liability.

See:
BrewerGM:dir/fire yost

no need......

:wavefinger:

IrishRainbow · Post #54 » by **IrishRainbow** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 7:36 pm

I personally thought that it was a CO/MKE race for the MVP/ROY........ugh

I say MVP: CO
ROY:MKE

as much as I think 50 is a number not to be underestimated

:pray:

IrishRainbow · Post #55 » by **IrishRainbow** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 7:42 pm

anyone have a ROY per game split?

34Celtic · Post #56 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 7:50 pm

Tulowitzki is just all around so much of a better player.

If Braun had Tulowitzki's defense, and played shortstop there is no doubt in my mind the Brewers would be in the playoffs right now.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #57 » by **Buck You** » Tue Oct 2, 2007 9:50 pm

34Celtic wrote:Tulowitzki is just all around so much of a better player.

If Braun had Tulowitzki's defense, and played shortstop there is no doubt in my mind the Brewers would be in the playoffs right now.

The Brewers problems are much deeper than Braun's defense.

denvers_finest · Post #58 » by **denvers_finest** » Thu Oct 4, 2007 11:44 pm

Pop quiz.

Last team to make the playoffs with a rookie short stop was.......

NYY, in Jeter's rookie year.

Post #59 » by **GYBE** » Fri Oct 5, 2007 12:23 am

I think Ryan Theriot was still considered a rookie this year for the Cubs, so if that's true that would make two teams.

milehigh · Post #60 » by **milehigh** » Sun Oct 7, 2007 6:17 am

DrugBust wrote:Anyone from Colorado should be exempt from a post season award.

Tulowitski at home:

.330 avg
.398 obp
.564 slg
.962 ops
14 hr
20 2b
55 rbi

Away from the launching pad that is Coor's Field:

.256 avg
.329 obp
.382 slg
.712 ops
9 2b
8 hr
36 rbi

Congrats Troy. You're another product of the biggest joke of a home field in MLB history.

Bump worthy? 2-1 Pitching duel in Coors to move on to the NLCS!!!
:nod: