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Who throws the best...
Fastball?
Curveball?
Changeup?
Slider?
Any other pitch?
Discuss.
Curveball?
Changeup?
Slider?
Any other pitch?
Discuss.
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I would say Dan Haren has the best splitter though it is hard to disagree with what others say.
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Fastball: Papelbon
Curve: Burnett
Change: Santana
Slider: Chamberlain
Sinker: Webb
Splitter: Haren
Cutter: Rivera (Jared Burton is coming for you, though)
Curve: Burnett
Change: Santana
Slider: Chamberlain
Sinker: Webb
Splitter: Haren
Cutter: Rivera (Jared Burton is coming for you, though)
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Papelbon is the most dominant reliever in baseball right now and often times just mows down teams on 10-12 pitches with just the aid of his fastball. He's been clocked up to 99.7 MPH this season and the movement and command of the pitch is just absolutely off the charts. Just not even close as far as I'm concerned. I think it's easily the best single pitch in all of baseball.
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Bleeding Green wrote:Papelbon is the most dominant reliever in baseball right now and often times just mows down teams on 10-12 pitches with just the aid of his fastball. He's been clocked up to 99.7 MPH this season and the movement and command of the pitch is just absolutely off the charts. Just not even close as far as I'm concerned. I think it's easily the best single pitch in all of baseball.
I have to agree. Here's Papelbon's early-season pitch chart:

Here's Felix Hernandez (probably second in the speed/movement department:

It's otherworldly that they throw 97-99 MPH fastballs that bore in on hitters to that degree.

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Bleeding Green wrote:Papelbon is the most dominant reliever in baseball right now and often times just mows down teams on 10-12 pitches with just the aid of his fastball. He's been clocked up to 99.7 MPH this season and the movement and command of the pitch is just absolutely off the charts. Just not even close as far as I'm concerned. I think it's easily the best single pitch in all of baseball.
I still think Johan's changeup has it beat. He's the reason why some players need knee surgeries in the offseason.
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Eh, Johan's change is obviously incredible, but he sets it up with his fastball. Papelbon has thrown his fastball like 90% of the time and still just blows guys away like they aren't even there.
LOL. 95 MPH fastball with 14 inches of movement and pinpoint command. I don't know what that change pitch is or the cutter; must just be errors in the classification system. I didn't realize he's only thrown 3 splitters all season.
LOL. 95 MPH fastball with 14 inches of movement and pinpoint command. I don't know what that change pitch is or the cutter; must just be errors in the classification system. I didn't realize he's only thrown 3 splitters all season.
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Bleeding Green wrote:Papelbon is the most dominant reliever in baseball right now and often times just mows down teams on 10-12 pitches with just the aid of his fastball. He's been clocked up to 99.7 MPH this season and the movement and command of the pitch is just absolutely off the charts. Just not even close as far as I'm concerned. I think it's easily the best single pitch in all of baseball.
Santiago Castilla has been better than Papelbon so far this year.
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I'd take Felix Hernandez's fastball over Papelbon's. It induces an insane amount of ground balls and, unlike Papelbon, he doesn't get to come in and just throw it all out for one inning.
I'd also take James Shields' changeup and put it up against any other change in baseball, Santana's included. It's an absolutely filthy pitch.
I'd also take James Shields' changeup and put it up against any other change in baseball, Santana's included. It's an absolutely filthy pitch.
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