ALDS: Angels vs. Red Sox (Angels sweep 3-0)

[VinnyTheMick]

Should be good, like it usually is against these chumps.
They're no match and I'm already looking forward to the playing Yankees in the alcs.

[sunshinekids99]

Papelbum.

Yeah cause your boy never blew a playoff save right?

To the Angels fans congrats. Good luck in the next round. I'll be rooting for you.

[sunshinekids99]

Should be good, like it usually is against these chumps.
They're no match and I'm already looking forward to the playing Yankees in the alcs.

Show some class.

[VinnyTheMick]

Should be good, like it usually is against these chumps.
They're no match and I'm already looking forward to the playing Yankees in the alcs.

Show some class.

I'm sorry, I really am. I just hate when people are so damn cocky. Especially this guy. He is downright disrespectful towards the Angels. As if they were the same team you guys owned in the past. I mean c'mon...

[greenbeans]

Should be good, like it usually is against these chumps.
They're no match and I'm already looking forward to the playing Yankees in the alcs.

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I said that on The Sox board, so go screw.

Congrats to the Angels fans, you guys have definitely put in your time. Good luck next round, and send the yanks home w/o hardware please.

[VinnyTheMick]

I said that on The Sox board, so go screw.

[Brunson2Spencer]

LOL @ show some class. Because we all know how classy Boston sports fans are, especially if the Yankees were to be eliminated in the playoffs. C'mon now.

[sunshinekids99]

LOL @ show some class. Because we all know how classy Boston sports fans are, especially if the Yankees were to be eliminated in the playoffs. C'mon now.

Hey dumbass you show one time when I've rubbed it in to Yankees fans after they lost.

[desertlakerfan]

Again nothing against Lackey and Weaver. But when I think of top of the line starters neither of those guys pop into my head. Looking at the Sox lineup they should be able to do damage against them.

That speaks more on your knowledge of the Angels pitching staff than their actual skill level.

Lackey has been a Ace for years(started off slow this year coming off injury) and Weaver has been great ever since he was drafted by the Angels with this being his first "Ace-like" year picking up 16 wins.

Boston's offense was solid all year, they just were owned by better pitching. Can't wait to see the matchups against the Yankees "best pitching money can buy".

[sunshinekids99]

Again nothing against Lackey and Weaver. But when I think of top of the line starters neither of those guys pop into my head. Looking at the Sox lineup they should be able to do damage against them.

That speaks more on your knowledge of the Angels pitching staff than their actual skill level.

Lackey has been a Ace for years(started off slow this year coming off injury) and Weaver has been great ever since he was drafted by the Angels with this being his first "Ace-like" year picking up 16 wins.

Boston's offense was solid all year, they just were owned by better pitching. Can't wait to see the matchups against the Yankees "best pitching money can buy".

When you think front of the line guys, Lackey and Weaver are two guys that pop into your head? Give me a break, I can think of 20 guys I would go with before those two. Plus given the fact the Sox have had success against both Lackey and Weaver.

Weaver has been great since being part of the Angels? Maybe my definition of great is different than yours. Weaver had one great year. He was good this year, but again I can name 15+ guys who were better than him.

I've never looked at John Lackey as an ace. Sorry I just don't think he's a dominate pitcher. He's really only had one "Ace" season for the Angels in 07 I believe.

I really don't want to put Lackey or Weaver down, but a lineup like that should hit them. It's quite plan and simple. I mean when Lackey is 3-7 with a 5 era for his career against you, you expect to win correct?

[desertlakerfan]

Again nothing against Lackey and Weaver. But when I think of top of the line starters neither of those guys pop into my head. Looking at the Sox lineup they should be able to do damage against them.

That speaks more on your knowledge of the Angels pitching staff than their actual skill level.

Lackey has been a Ace for years(started off slow this year coming off injury) and Weaver has been great ever since he was drafted by the Angels with this being his first "Ace-like" year picking up 16 wins.

Boston's offense was solid all year, they just were owned by better pitching. Can't wait to see the matchups against the Yankees "best pitching money can buy".

When you think front of the line guys, Lackey and Weaver are two guys that pop into your head? Give me a break, I can think of 20 guys I would go with before those two. Plus given the fact the Sox have had success against both Lackey and Weaver.

Weaver has been great since being part of the Angels? Maybe my definition of great is different than yours. Weaver had one great year. He was good this year, but again I can name 15+ guys who were better than him.

I've never looked at John Lackey as an ace. Sorry I just don't think he's a dominate pitcher. He's really only had one "Ace" season for the Angels in 07 I believe.

I really don't want to put Lackey or Weaver down, but a lineup like that should hit them. It's quite plan and simple. I mean when Lackey is 3-7 with a 5 era for his career against you, you expect to win correct?

If you know more about baseball than what the Yankees and Socks have done this year then yes you would think of those 2 as top tier pitchers. If however you are in a east coast bubble and only watch ESPN then I can see how you wouldn't think of them that way.

It's fine though, don't show them any respect because they don't need it. They beat your team handily and you can sit and complain about how it was your offense sucking instead of being outpitched/outplayed.

Angels Aces > Boston Bats. I think the sweep proved that easily. You guys had your chance against Kazmir who had a poor outing, still couldn't win a game.

[sunshinekids99]

Nobody is saying the Angels pitching didn't dominate the Red Sox bats, it would be foolish to think otherwise. But to say Lackey and Weaver are at the top of pitching in baseball is just false. There are 20 guys I'd rather give the ball to then those two and I think a lot more people would be agreeing with me on that point than you. It's not an east coast bias, it's being able to see who is a better pitcher.

Again I don't want to put down Lackey or Weaver. But lets be honest the Sox have handled both of them in the past. Youkilis, Pedroia, and Martinez have all done well in the past against these guys...they did **** in the playoffs. Maybe it's good scouting, but I don't think both of them became Sandy Koufax overnight.

[desertlakerfan]

Nobody is saying the Angels pitching didn't dominate the Red Sox bats, it would be foolish to think otherwise. But to say Lackey and Weaver are at the top of pitching in baseball is just false. There are 20 guys I'd rather give the ball to then those two and I think a lot more people would be agreeing with me on that point than you. It's not an east coast bias, it's being able to see who is a better pitcher.

Again I don't want to put down Lackey or Weaver. But lets be honest the Sox have handled both of them in the past. Youkilis, Pedroia, and Martinez have all done well in the past against these guys...they did **** in the playoffs. Maybe it's good scouting, but I don't think both of them became Sandy Koufax overnight.

This argument is all semantics, rather 2 definitions of "great" pitchers.

I feel the Angels have 2 Aces currently on their staff and I feel the both proved it against Boston who in your words "should of been able to hit them". They weren't able to, and in my opinion that is due to their excellent stuff(Ace quality) on the mound. While neither became Sandy Koufax overnight, to try and say the Sox handled them in the past as a qualifier as to why they aren't great pitchers is laughable. Boston as a team has handled the Angels in the past but guess what, the past doesnt matter as they now know watching the rest of the playoffs at home.

[sunshinekids99]

It's like talking to a wall with you. Everything has to do with the past in baseball, that's what stats are all about. Now of course the Angels got the job done with their scouting and Lackey and Weaver did their job following it. But it's not like the Sox haven't been dominated by less pitchers on the road.

We'll see what Lackey and Weaver can do in Yankee Stadium, something tells me the results will be different.

I guess we just have a difference in the term ace. Just because your the first pitcher for a team, doesn't make you an ace. And sorry but John Lackey has only been ace once in his career.

[desertlakerfan]

It's like talking to a wall with you.

Believe me the feeling is mutual.

[sunshinekids99]

You've yet to saying anything of meaning besides jabs. That's not really how this board works.