OT: Anyone here still care about baseball?

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Re: OT: Anyone here still care about baseball? 

Post#41 » by craig01 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:10 pm

The series between the Phils and Giants was a great one, and as exiting and action packed as it gets.

The NBA won't ever surpass baseball in the public domain.....
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Post#42 » by sunshinekids99 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:37 pm

Bigdog1 wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I think in NYC metro it's still a very big deal. Nationally no. I would say football is way way ahead. I would even say in a lot of markets it's Pro football and then college football 1 and 2 with everyone else fighting for the scraps. Baseball is very regional these days. It's very coastal and popular in some midwest cities like St. Louis and Chicago but that's about it.

Personally I have to admit reg season baseball I find boring a lot of times unless it's a rivalry game or I'm at the stadium. But playoff baseball is excellent.



you're absolutely correct football is in a league of its own

boston, stlouis, new york, chicago are the only true basdeball -1st town left

baseball is very regional now...meaning most people will only watch if their team are in the playoffs
where as the nfl people watch regardless


The Pats dominate the Red Sox if they are head to head regardless of team matchups. While the hot stove is huge in Boston for the Red Sox, they are just not the top dog anymore.
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Re: OT: Anyone here still care about baseball? 

Post#43 » by Bigdog1 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:53 am

"The Pats dominate the Red Sox if they are head to head regardless of team matchups"

i strongly disagree with this statement...aside from stlouis, new england/boston and their baseball is 2nd to none.

http://www.sportsjuke.com/2009/12/debat ... riots.html

here's a little blog that would share my setiment


alot of the media is bashing baseball as of late because baseball is suppose to be "america's pastime" of course this is not the case when football dominate baseball ratings

look at the rangers fans, people were out at the airport to greet the rangers players after their game 5 loss to the yankees...anything like that for the mavs? or even the cowboys?

even in philly now, the phillies are on par with the eagles if not suprass the eagles in term of popularity...

problem with baseball for the past decades is that very few people will invest their time in a game unless their hometown team is in it.

personally, I too have grown to love baseball as I age. nothing beat hanging out with your kids at a baseball game.
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Post#44 » by sunshinekids99 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:52 pm

Bigdog1 wrote:"The Pats dominate the Red Sox if they are head to head regardless of team matchups"

i strongly disagree with this statement...aside from stlouis, new england/boston and their baseball is 2nd to none.

http://www.sportsjuke.com/2009/12/debat ... riots.html

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You put them both up against each other and the Pats will always win. Not saying the Red Sox are not huge, but to think they are above the Pats as far as ratings go is just foolish. I do agree the Hot Stove is huge in Boston, but there is also nothing besides the draft that can equal that in football.

You pick any Pats game and they beat any matchup the Red Sox can do in terms of ratings. I mean a Pats regular season game has beated the Sox in the playoffs in ratings. I'm a huge baseball fan, bigger than a football fan, but the Pats are king right now.
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Re: OT: Anyone here still care about baseball? 

Post#45 » by craig01 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:29 am

Bigdog1 wrote:

personally, I too have grown to love baseball as I age. nothing beat hanging out with your kids at a baseball game.


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Re: OT: Anyone here still care about baseball? 

Post#46 » by Bigdog1 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:54 am

sunshinekids99 wrote:
Bigdog1 wrote:"The Pats dominate the Red Sox if they are head to head regardless of team matchups"

i strongly disagree with this statement...aside from stlouis, new england/boston and their baseball is 2nd to none.

http://www.sportsjuke.com/2009/12/debat ... riots.html

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You put them both up against each other and the Pats will always win. Not saying the Red Sox are not huge, but to think they are above the Pats as far as ratings go is just foolish. I do agree the Hot Stove is huge in Boston, but there is also nothing besides the draft that can equal that in football.

You pick any Pats game and they beat any matchup the Red Sox can do in terms of ratings. I mean a Pats regular season game has beated the Sox in the playoffs in ratings. I'm a huge baseball fan, bigger than a football fan, but the Pats are king right now.


there's only 16 football games in a year hence each game will mean a whole lot more than 162 games of baseball

the pat if i can remember have never went up against a redsox playoff game in recent memory...and if you can provide me with fact that the pats beat the red sox in local ratings when the sox run in 2004 or their repeat in 2007..then I would love to see those numbers

how do you quantify superbowl vs world series?

Fox,CBS,ABC,NBC have made an average of $140 millions(based on a $2.6 million 30 seconds commercial) for every superbowl ) superbowl easily bring in 90-100 millions viewers

FOX will make $32 million per games (2010 $460k per 30 second spot for world series) for 2010 world series...they sold out for 5 games so that is $150 millions. If the game goes to 7 games that over $200 millions. let said the world series avr a pathetic 10 million viewers that still 50 miilions for 5 games

is that really bad for FOX or Baseball?

football is huge in texas
the cowboys get a avr a 30-45 local ratings for each cowboys games x that by 16 games
the rangers are avrging 30 local ratings for games vs the yankees x 6 games
the rangers are bring in 4-6 ratings on their reg but times that by 162 games

the cowboys get $96 million from their share of national tv(equal for all 32 teams) the cowboys get another $50 million from sponsorships for the stadium which they dont have to share.

http://www.examiner.com/texas-rangers-i ... ew-tv-deal
the rangers just ink a local tv deal which will net them any where from a low 80mils to 120mils per year + sponsorships + National brocasting fees that every team get

so right in the middle of america's team (the cowboys) you got a lowly texas baseball team that before this season was nothing now pulling money like the cowboys?

I am giving the cowboys example because the cowboys is the richest NFL team or closely behind the redskins, but this is the same economic in wisconson with green bay and brewers, in minesota with the twins, in seattle so on and so on

yes football dominates in the ratings and is slightly ahead in money, but if you look at every city that has a football team and a baseball team you would find that people are as equally or more passonate about their baseball team

if you dont think this is true then read up on pirates baseball... the pittsburg pirate have been the worst run sports franchise in the past decades with NO hope in sight. yet they still manage to pull in 1.5 millions fans, have the city built them what is the regarded as the best ball park in America. Fans "boycotts' and stage protest over their losing ways. this is the same city that have won numerous stanley cups and have the best hockey play in the world yet they almost let the pens walk because they drag their feet on a new arena for the pens. yet with the pirate they are spoiling a losing team and the fans are stressing out. yeah the steelers are mega big in pittsburg.. but if the pirate make the playoffs they will be just as huge or even bigger in that area.
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Re: OT: Anyone here still care about baseball? 

Post#47 » by BlackMamba » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:45 pm

Wow, no WS thread…
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Post#48 » by Dirty Water » Fri Dec 3, 2010 9:56 pm

Baseball is and always will be my favorite sport, played it since I was 4. Soccer is second only because I played it as well. Not the most knowledgeable about it professionally though. Play basketball for fun never in a real league other than college intramurals. Never played Football even though I love watching it and follow it religiously.

As for following sports professionally its always been Patriots/Red Sox/Celtics dead even. Mostly end up talking football the most because that's what most people talk about. The NFL is king in the states. Grew up in a period when Celtics were bad and went to college in the mid-atlantic in a period the Sixers and Wizards were bad and Baltimore doesn't have a team. So basketball always ended up being third fiddle for me because no one in my circle was really discussing it that much. Hence why I have an account on a basketball talk related message board.

Hockey and the Bruins will always be something I care nothing about, regardless of how they do. My dad never played, followed or watched hockey, so neither do I.
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Re: OT: Anyone here still care about baseball? 

Post#49 » by nitetrain8603 » Sat Dec 4, 2010 2:49 am

My 2nd favorite sport. Basketball will always be #1 because it was the first sport I ever watched or learned.

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