Most Lopsided Trade in the Last 5 Years

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Post#21 » by GYBE » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:53 pm

gunnabdaschwab09 wrote:-Sammy Sosa to Baltimore for Jerry Hairston Jr. and prospects (2005)


I don't understand this. Sosa was mediocre in Chicago before he left, he was flat out awful in Baltimore, and now he's back the mediocre. The Cubs certainly aren't missing him and one of the prospects we got has an OPS of 1.069 right now through 60+ AB's at 2B. He's hitting .397. He's going to cool down, but we gave up nothing.

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Post#22 » by Basketball Jesus » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:39 pm

gunnabdaschwab09 wrote:Twins-Giants trade is probably the most lopsided in the last 25 years if Liriano comes back strong.

Other trades in the past 5-10 years:

-D-Rays get Kevin Stocker, Phils get Bobby Abreu (1997)

-Marlins select Johan Santana in the '99 "Rule 5" Draft, then trade him to the Twins for Jared Camp (1999)

-Mariners trade Randy Johnson to the Astros for Carlos Guillen and Freddy Garcia (1998)

-This almost happened: Phillies get Kris Benson for Ryan Howard ('03 or '04?)

-Pedro Martinez from Montreal to Boston for Carl Pavano and Tony Armas Jr. (1997)

-Ken Griffey Jr. from Seattle to Cincy for Mike Cameron, Brett Tomko, Antonio Perez, and Jake Meyer (1999)

-Sammy Sosa to Baltimore for Jerry Hairston Jr. and prospects (2005)

-2004: 4-team deal that landed the Red Sox: Orlando Cabrera, Doug Mientkiewicz and Dave Roberts (all instrumental in winning the '04 WS) while giving up a slumping Nomar Garciaparra

Just some more examples.



Also: Red Sox trade Heathcliff Slocumb to the Mariners for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe
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Post#23 » by Da Schwab » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:36 am

More trades that seem a bit one-sided to me:

-Phillies trade Placido Polanco to the Tigers for Ugeth Urbina/Ramon Martinez (2005)

-3-team trade in 2004: A's get Octavio Dotel, Royals get Mark Teahen/John Buck/Mike Wood, Astros get Carlos Beltran (But the Royals seem happy with it too.)

-Yankees get John Wetteland from the Expos for Fernando Seguignol (1995)

-Yankees get Roger Clemens from the Blue Jays for David Wells/Homer Bush/Graeme Lloyd (1999)

-May 15, 1998: Marlins get Mike Piazza/Todd Zeile from Dodgers for Gary Sheffield/Bobby Bonilla/Charles Johnson/Jim Eisenreich/Manuel Barrios

-May 22, 1998 (A week later): Mets get Mike Piazza from Marlins for Preston Wilson/Ed Yarnall/Geoff Goetz
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Post#24 » by YungNeef » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:46 pm

34Celtic wrote:Every trade with Pittsburgh should be labled as lopsided. Oliver Perez for Roberto Hernandez and Xavier Nady, then letting Hernandez go


It was actually Perez and Hernandez for Nady. Mets let Hernandez walk.
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Post#25 » by Ex-hippie » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:18 pm

Didn't the OP say last five years? Why are people digging up things from ten years ago like the Slocumb trade? Why not just talk about Bagwell for Larry Andersen, or Babe Ruth for cash?

In the last five years, the Kazmir-Zambrano trade can't be topped. Extra credit for that one because everyone knew it was a dumb trade at the time.

I'm less inclined to dump on people who traded prospects for established veterans simply because those prospects happened to pan out. When you do one of those trades, you're trading long-term potential for short-term returns, it's a known risk, and you get what you bargained for. The team that receives these prospects is accepting a risk by exchanging known for unknown quantities. The price for taking on that risk is upside. Sometimes the upside is recognized, sometimes it isn't. I'd call those trades disasters only if the talent is completely out of proportion and the players involved are close enough to the majors to be highly projectable (like the Slocumb, Bagwell and Kazmir trades, or the Ryne Sandberg/Ivan DeJesus trade).
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Post#26 » by SportsWorld » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:21 pm

GYBE wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I don't understand this. Sosa was mediocre in Chicago before he left, he was flat out awful in Baltimore, and now he's back the mediocre. The Cubs certainly aren't missing him and one of the prospects we got has an OPS of 1.069 right now through 60+ AB's at 2B. He's hitting .397. He's going to cool down, but we gave up nothing.

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Also we got Mike Fontenot in that deal and look what he is doing know.
He went 5-5 on Monday and had a homer today. He is batting over .400.
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Post#27 » by stro4swift » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:17 pm

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The other players coming to the Brewers were Junior Spivey, Chad Moeller and Jorge De la Rosa.

Lyle Overbay was turned into Gabe Gross, Dave Bush and Zach Jackson.


Where's Spivey??? He was great in Arizona, even made the All Star Team...
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Post#28 » by GYBE » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:31 am

SportsWorld wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Also we got Mike Fontenot in that deal and look what he is doing know.
He went 5-5 on Monday and had a homer today. He is batting over .400.


GYBE wrote:one of the prospects we got has an OPS of 1.069 right now through 60+ AB's at 2B. He's hitting .397.


Oh I was aware. Well, he was hitting .397 when I said it. And it's still going up. :wink:

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Post#29 » by Da Schwab » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:38 pm

I was saying the Sosa deal was one-sided because of complete failure Sammy had in Baltimore.

Observe, 2005 Stats:

102 Games
14 HRs
45 RBIs
.221 BA
.295 OBP
.376 SLG
143 Total Bases

This season through 66 Friggin' Games:

13 HRs
61 RBIs
.251 BA
.312 OBP
.476 SLG
120 Total Bases

Score 2 for Slammin' Sammy.

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