Top 5 Candidates To Break Bonds Record

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Post#21 » by Black Jesus 1 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:52 am

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And he'll break the record with both hands tied behind his back. :nod:
Sorta like his D..
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Post#22 » by travis minor » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:29 am

randomhero423 wrote:where's miggy?



He isnt a 40 homerun guy, he actually hits for average
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Post#23 » by trwi7 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:47 am

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Sorta like his D..


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Post#24 » by bigboy1234 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:18 am

bigboy1234 wrote:Theres only one real candidate to break Barry's record, and as we all know that man is Ryan Braun.

Nevermind I lied, Ankiel is the only one to break it, he's like a poor mans Ruth though. Started out pitching then moved to the outfield, both left handed the similiarities are too much. Ankiel in one game 1 HR, if he keeps up the pace he'll have the HR record in 5 years.
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Post#25 » by JoeJohnson2two » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:50 am

Current Players with a chance of breaking home run record...

Ryan Howard (1B - Philadelphia Phillies)
Career HR average: 43
20 seasons: 866
Age at 20 seasons: 44
*Odds are he doesn't hit 43 home runs per season for 20 years but mathematically he has the best chance*

Albert Pujols (1B - St. Louis Cardinals)
Career HR average: 40
20 seasons: 800
Age at 20 seasons: 40
*I really like Pujols' chances at hitting 800. Even if his pace drops a few home runs a year he'll still have a chance to play until he's 45.*

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Post#26 » by bigboy1234 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:08 am

*Odds are he doesn't hit 43 home runs per season for 20 years but mathematically he has the best chance*

LOL, you do realize Pujols has 160 more HR and is younger, right? Me thinks you math equations are fatally flawed.
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Post#27 » by JoeJohnson2two » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:31 am

bigboy1234 wrote:
*Odds are he doesn't hit 43 home runs per season for 20 years but mathematically he has the best chance*

LOL, you do realize Pujols has 160 more HR and is younger, right? Me thinks you math equations are fatally flawed.


I'm basing it off of merely home runs and that's it. 43 home runs per season at 20 seasons is mathematically better than 40 home runs per season at 20 seasons. Amirite?

Like I posted underneath Pujols. I REALLY like his chances at 800 more than Howard's.
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Post#28 » by bigboy1234 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:58 am

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I'm basing it off of merely home runs and that's it. 43 home runs per season at 20 seasons is mathematically better than 40 home runs per season at 20 seasons. Amirite?

Like I posted underneath Pujols. I REALLY like his chances at 800 more than Howard's.

No, your wrong, because not every player comes into the league at the same age. Pujols was a rookie at age 21, while Howard at the latter part of 25.

You should start with how many HR they have now. Then use there average to about age 33, then start to decline there average to about age 38. Any mathematical equation that says Howard has a better chance than Pujols is simply out of whack, and by a lot.
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Post#29 » by JoeJohnson2two » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:44 am

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No, your wrong, because not every player comes into the league at the same age. Pujols was a rookie at age 21, while Howard at the latter part of 25.

You should start with how many HR they have now. Then use there average to about age 33, then start to decline there average to about age 38. Any mathematical equation that says Howard has a better chance than Pujols is simply out of whack, and by a lot.


Call me when Pujols hits 58 home runs and tell me then that he has a better chance than Howard to hit 800...

Howard is on pace to play 17 less games than Pujols and STILL hit 13 more home runs.

Howard as a power hitter (and only power hitter) > Pujols as a power hitter.

(and they call us Brewers fans homers)...
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Post#30 » by JoeJohnson2two » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:48 am

Howard may be the best pure power hitter the game has seen in a long time.

He would have hit 40 home runs his rookie season had he played an entire year.
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Post#31 » by bigboy1234 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:06 am

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Call me when Pujols hits 58 home runs and tell me then that he has a better chance than Howard to hit 800...

Howard is on pace to play 17 less games than Pujols and STILL hit 13 more home runs.

Howard as a power hitter (and only power hitter) > Pujols as a power hitter.

(and they call us Brewers fans homers)...

Being a better power hitter has nothing to do with it, you don't understand that Pujols has 160 more HR and is younger!!!!!!! Understand it, it isn't that hard. And I know Howard is a better power hitter, go to the player comp board where I said he was the best power hitter in the game. But guess what that doesn't matter when your trailing by 160 HR and older.

And I'm the furthest thing from a homer, your the one who listed 2 players who combine for less than 90 HR in there career. For the record, I would take A-Rod and Andruw over Pujols predicting there career HR totals, but you'd have to be a fool to think Howard will get more than Pujols right now.
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Post#32 » by JoeJohnson2two » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:20 am

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Being a better power hitter has nothing to do with it, you don't understand that Pujols has 160 more HR and is younger!!!!!!! Understand it, it isn't that hard. And I know Howard is a better power hitter, go to the player comp board where I said he was the best power hitter in the game. But guess what that doesn't matter when your trailing by 160 HR and older.

And I'm the furthest thing from a homer, your the one who listed 2 players who combine for less than 90 HR in there career. For the record, I would take A-Rod and Andruw over Pujols predicting there career HR totals, but you'd have to be a fool to think Howard will get more than Pujols right now.


Howard is on pace to put up 130 home runs in his first 3 seasons and one of those seasons was a mere 88 games.

I think Howard has the shear power to put up more career home runs than Pujols. It's not as absurd as ya think.

I like them both, don't get me wrong. I'm the furthest from a Pujols hater (best pure hitter in baseball w/o a doubt other than Ichiro that is) but I could see Howard drawing even with Pujols at some point in their careers.

However, Pujols seems to take much better care of his body so I definitely see him being around long enough to avoid the Phils slugger.
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Post#33 » by treyZz » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:31 pm

I would be in favor of banning all Brewer members.

Feel free to lay down the hammer bigboy1234.
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Post#34 » by risktaker91 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:41 pm

Sammy Sosa said he wants to play 5 more years.
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Post#35 » by bigboy1234 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:55 pm

risktaker91 wrote:Sammy Sosa said he wants to play 5 more years.

Well he would need about 8 more years just to get where Barry is now, so things aren't looking promising. Plus Sammy isn't even good enough to be in league anymore, he's just a sideshow.
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Post#36 » by cb4_89 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:41 pm

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Howard is on pace to put up 130 home runs in his first 3 seasons and one of those seasons was a mere 88 games.

I think Howard has the shear power to put up more career home runs than Pujols. It's not as absurd as ya think.

I like them both, don't get me wrong. I'm the furthest from a Pujols hater (best pure hitter in baseball w/o a doubt other than Ichiro that is) but I could see Howard drawing even with Pujols at some point in their careers.

However, Pujols seems to take much better care of his body so I definitely see him being around long enough to avoid the Phils slugger.



Yeah it is. Having 160 more homers means that Ryan Howard would need 3 AMAZING years like the one he had last year while Pujols sits his ass on a bench for 3 years to reach him.

Then Pujols and Howard would be tied. And even then Pujols would be younger.

Thats means Ryan Howard is 3 years away from where Pujols is right now. Howard would be 30 by then. But whats the point when Pujols is going to hit 40-45 homers per average in those three years and get another 120-130 homer lead on Howard?

Unless Pujols has a Griffey type of career, there is no way in hell that Howard will catch up to him.
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Post#37 » by Da Schwab » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:08 pm

All this talk about 800 HRs is making Sadaharo Oh shake in his socks.


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Post#38 » by cb4_89 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:40 pm

Who cares?

Thats like Damon Allen holding the professional footballs all time passing yard record. Who cares. It was in the CFL.

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