2008 HOF Eligible Players

[Bleeding Green]

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I suppose you can make an arguement atleast. One thing that will hurt Evans is only being in the top 10 of MVP voting once. While Rice was in the top 10 six times.


My votes would go to:
Andre Dawson
Jim Rice

Keep in mind that Dwight Evans is a significantly better baseball player than Jim Rice.

Jim Rice was like Manny Ramirez in LF (OK, not that bad, but Dwight Evans was magical in the field), except he wasn't as good an offensive player. And he didn't play as long. And he fell off a cliff at like age 34.

[Da Schwab]

I think you figure in the weak class, and numbers do speak. I think this is his best chance to get in.

Hey, It worked for Bruce Sutter right?


My Votes:

Goose Gossage
Alan Trammell
Andre Dawson
Dale Murphy
Donnie Baseball (Homer vote)
Burt Blyleven

I personally wouldn't vote for Big Mac, not necessarily for the steroid stuff, but more for his one-dementionalness (made-up).


Rickey "The Greatest of All-Time" Henderson is eligible next year, correct?

[sunshinekids99]

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Keep in mind that Dwight Evans is a significantly better baseball player than Jim Rice.

Jim Rice was like Manny Ramirez in LF (OK, not that bad, but Dwight Evans was magical in the field), except he wasn't as good an offensive player. And he didn't play as long. And he fell off a cliff at like age 34.

I agree defensively Evans was one of the best right fielders of all-time. And he is a very underrated offensive player. Looking just quickly at his numbers he never really put back to back huge years together. 87 was a very good year, but nothing else really jumps out at you.

Rice on the other year has a few years that really stick out. While I'd like to see both guys get in, I'll take Rice if I had to pick one.

[ChiBullsFan83]

From that list, it's tough to see who'd get in. My votes would lean towards:

Bert Blyleven
Jack Morris
Don Mattingly - he'll easily get in, I'd be suprised if he's not in on 1st attempt
Rich "Goose" Gossage

I remember a lot of these hitters when I was younger. If Knoblauch gets in before Bert, I don't blame Bert one bit if he curses a couple hundred times on the air again. It was hard to leave Justice off of my list, but he should get in on his 2nd attempt, he'll get in the HOF though. Why and how is Mike Trombley elgilble?

[sunshinekids99]

From that list, it's tough to see who'd get in. My votes would lean towards:

Bert Blyleven
Jack Morris
Don Mattingly - he'll easily get in, I'd be suprised if he's not in on 1st attempt
Rich "Goose" Gossage

I remember a lot of these hitters when I was younger. If Knoblauch gets in before Bert, I don't blame Bert one bit if he curses a couple hundred times on the air again. It was hard to leave Justice off of my list, but he should get in on his 2nd attempt, he'll get in the HOF though. Why and how is Mike Trombley elgilble?

Your guys are going to have a hard time getting in, minus Goose who got 71% last season. Blyleven got 47%, Morris with 37%, and Mattingly will not get in. He was on the ballot last season and only got 9% of the vote. Just not going to happen for him.

Don't worry Knoblauch will never get in to the Hall, so you don't need to worry about him getting there before Bert. Also Justice is not a HOF player either. He had 3 real good seasons, but besides that not a whole lot.

And all players who retired 5 seasons ago are eligible to voted on, that's why Trombley is there.

[Bleeding Green]

Knoblauch is a sad case because he'd legit be one of the top 7 best second basemen ever (maybe higher--I just pulled the number out of my ass) if he didn't just completely start sucking out of nowhere.

[Bleeding Green]

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I agree defensively Evans was one of the best right fielders of all-time. And he is a very underrated offensive player. Looking just quickly at his numbers he never really put back to back huge years together. 87 was a very good year, but nothing else really jumps out at you.

Rice on the other year has a few years that really stick out. While I'd like to see both guys get in, I'll take Rice if I had to pick one.

Dwight Evans career year EqA: .321
Dwight Evans average EqA: .298

Jim Rice career year EqA: .320
Jim Rice average EqA: .295

Dwight Evans played 517 more games and played a much better outfield. I don't think it's even really close.

[sunshinekids99]

I'm not so sure many people who watched both play would agree with you tho. Although I do agree with you that Evans doesn't get the credit he deserves.

[Basketball Jesus]

Knoblauch is a sad case because he'd legit be one of the top 27 best second basemen ever (maybe higher--I just pulled the number out of my ass) if he didn't just completely start sucking out of nowhere.

Corrected.


Having two great seasons and one very good season does not a all-time great 2B make, brainfarts be damned.

[mup]

I'd guess Gossage, Blyleven, and McGwire get in, although I think only McGwire deserves it. Of the first timers, I bet only Raines gets enough votes to make it back for year 2.

For the guy who looked at last year's percentages as evidence that guys like Blyleven, Morris, etc., won't get in... you have to remember that a lot of voters' voting strategy encompasses always voting for a set number of guys every year. If those guys stick to their strategy, then the percentages of those "next in line" guys will go up quite a bit, and put stiffs like Gossage and Blyleven over the edge.