Hamilton to the Angels

[Ado05]

What if you're dad had a problem with drugs/alcohol? Would you being making those remarks? I just dont think its good to joke around about those things. Not trying to call you a bad person or anything.

[Quake Griffin]

What if you're dad had a problem with drugs/alcohol? Would you being making those remarks? I just dont think its good to joke around about those things. Not trying to call you a bad person or anything.

my grandpa did/ does (depending on how u view it...u never really get over it)
so does an uncle of mine.
so does a cousin of mine...my uncle's son.

does it have to be my pap specifically?

[Ado05]

What if you're dad had a problem with drugs/alcohol? Would you being making those remarks? I just dont think its good to joke around about those things. Not trying to call you a bad person or anything.

my grandpa did/ does (depending on how u view it...u never really get over it)
so does an uncle of mine.
so does a cousin of mine...my uncle's son.

does it have to be my pap specifically?

Wow. And you still decided to laugh at Hamilton, even after you know people who have this problem?

[Quake Griffin]

What if you're dad had a problem with drugs/alcohol? Would you being making those remarks? I just dont think its good to joke around about those things. Not trying to call you a bad person or anything.

my grandpa did/ does (depending on how u view it...u never really get over it)
so does an uncle of mine.
so does a cousin of mine...my uncle's son.

does it have to be my pap specifically?

Wow. And you still decided to laugh at Hamilton, even after you know people who have this problem?

yea man.
not that big of a deal to me.
my responsibility to my family, in my opinion, is to understand them and what they go through....not to be in serious mode about every addict or every situation.

when we all pass on somebody else will get addicted to those things ignoring every stop sign given to him in life that told them not to.

is it funny that he threw his life away? hurt his family? no...no, that idea isn't funny at all (and i think that's what ur getting at)
but is it funny that the angels would have invested in a failure trying to compete with the dodgers?....oh yes.
and my family being under the same problem does not make that less funny.
no different than the yankees blowing money on carl pavano, dodgers on Jason Schmidt to me...but that's just me

[TyCobb]

but is it funny that the angels would have invested in a failure trying to compete with the dodgers?...oh yes.

Whatever helps you sleep at night..

[Quake Griffin]

but is it funny that the angels would have invested in a failure trying to compete with the dodgers?...oh yes.

Whatever helps you sleep at night..

oh, then stop spending money you don't have.

and take the Los Angeles out of your name.
I'll pull for another Giants WS just to see you guys take that BS off the front of ur name.

[TyCobb]

I think this opens up a potential Bourjos and/or Trumbo to the Mets for Dickey deal. We'll see.

I personally love this signing. They shed salaries from Hunter, Haren, Santana, and Greinke that were all $10 mill plus. This won't hamstring the ball club at all. Hopefully he stays healthy.

The Angels have reached a new 20-year deal with Fox Sports worth roughly $3 billion, per Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times. That windfall of $150 million per year is not only the largest in the division, but also $100 million more per season over their previous 10-year, $500 million deal.

They have plenty of money dude.

[Quake Griffin]

"I was told money was tight but I guess the Arte had money hidden under a Mattress. Business is business but don't lie," Hunter tweeted.

and Pedro Gomez said that a "high ranking official" of the Angels said they were "tapped out" of money.

forgot about the tv deal though.

[Da Schwab]

Wait, people lie in baseball?

I am stun.

[Quake Griffin]

one more thing.

when does that 20 year deal start?

[TyCobb]

2016 when they start paying Hamilton $30 million a year.

[Quake Griffin]

backload his deal....15 Ms in year one?
the start of the 3 billion contract isn't here yet.
vernon wells is still on the books.
move the press box to make luxury seating.


sorry bro.
not gon lie...im gonna lean on my first statement even though i backed off.
they signed the guy when they didn't have the money....moved the numbers around to "have the money" and tried to pull a move to generate more cash-flow before the big contract gets here.


i hate the giants...but at minimum, i respect them.
i don't respect the angels...and my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things.

[Da Schwab]

You realize that teams, in pretty much every major sport mind you, do exactly what the Angels are doing, right?

[TyCobb]

The Angels payroll is projected to be $9 million less than last years'. Look, if the Angels didn't have the money they wouldn't a) have signed Josh Hamilton or b) gave Joe freaking Blanton 15 million over 2 years.

It's okay to be wrong, Quake Griffin.

[RIPskaterdude]

backload his deal....15 Ms in year one?
the start of the 3 billion contract isn't here yet.
vernon wells is still on the books.
move the press box to make luxury seating.


sorry bro.
not gon lie...im gonna lean on my first statement even though i backed off.
they signed the guy when they didn't have the money....moved the numbers around to "have the money" and tried to pull a move to generate more cash-flow before the big contract gets here.


i hate the giants...but at minimum, i respect them.
i don't respect the angels...and my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things.

TSE, is that you?

[Quake Griffin]

You realize that teams, in pretty much every major sport mind you, do exactly what the Angels are doing, right?

do what? i don't care that other teams do it....i care that they do it to spite the Dodgers.
their whole scheme is annoying to me....doesnt matter...when we win the world series this year, they'll realize there's no taking LA.

dodgers sign a big name?...who cares that we need pitching...let's just sign another big name at 25 million to steal the headlines and be the media darlings.

Give Albert Pujols terrible deal for headlines.
Sign CJ Wilson from Division Rival
Sign Josh Hammy from division rival.
what other franchise does lame business like this?

The Angels payroll is projected to be $9 million less than last years'. Look, if the Angels didn't have the money they wouldn't a) have signed Josh Hamilton or b) gave Joe freaking Blanton 15 million over 2 years.

It's okay to be wrong, Quake Griffin.

spending less than you spent last year means you have the funds to cover it?...tell me how that logic works
it means that the quality of pitcher that you need to be a good team isn't going to cost more than that 9 million? especially since the Jays n Mets are close....oh...ok

why'd the angels who need pitching bail on greinke? I would love to know your answer to this...all signs at the time pointed to them not willing to go that high...and backloading Hamilton's deal proves that they really didn't want to go that high...they just took more steps to make it happen.

Josh Hammy came on their doorstep...and the chance to steal him from a division rival, steal headlines from the dodgers was too good to pass....boom, they moved money/ pulled another move to increase some cash flow until they received their windfall from the tv deal.


note:
i hate the angels....i don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong...dont confuse the 2.
i admitted i was wrong earlier in the thread.
then i realized, i was wrong with some shades of gray.
i have no problem admitting it.

[Ado05]

You do realize that the Angels got better by signing those players, right? Sure, they'll most likely be f'ed in 5 years or so, but they are better now.

[Da Schwab]

Wait, you're talking sh*t about the Angels making these deals and you're a Dodgers fan?

Do you have any recollection of that god awful trade they made with the Sawx this past season?

[dockingsched]

this guy has made me not want to visit this already slow moving board. thanks guy.

[Quake Griffin]

Wait, you're talking sh*t about the Angels making these deals and you're a Dodgers fan?

Do you have any recollection of that god awful trade they made with the Sawx this past season?

here's how i break that trade down.

1. we have the money.
2. Carl Crawford coming off of TJS is better than any left field production we've had since Manny left. Is he an overpay? sure. His 1st year in Boston was terrible...but we're better at that position.
3. A-Gon is a premier 1b. Hits better than Loney and has an elite glove....boom we're better in that position.
4. So the only real laugher is Josh Beckett I'm guessing????....He pitched well for us...and he's our #4...and he's had 2 sick playoff runs to win WS

how is the trade bad again?
the money?
well, I'll let you keep counting our money.
while the sox who signed a fat 1b who can't guard the bag and a switch hitter who can't hit RHP to their outfield....is this a joke?

and if the trade was so bad, take the bullseye off our back and stop putting our expectations through the roof

You do realize that the Angels got better by signing those players, right? Sure, they'll most likely be f'ed in 5 years or so, but they are better now.

wait a minute.
the angels are a better team going into Spring Training than they were after they called Trout up? after the Greinke deal where he pitched well over his last wat? 8 starts for them?

they're BETTER?
lulz, are u drunk? or are you just romanticizing this signing?
they have a murderer's row lineup...that will be tough to get through....funny thing about baseball...teams always rise to the occasion and find a way to get through these "impossible" lineups.