All-Stars Announced

randomhero423 · Post #21 » by **randomhero423** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 6:27 pm

if i can change a few reserves in the NL it'd be...

Freddy Sanchez gone. and Hanley in.

Soriano gone. Eric Byrnes in.

Pitchers.

Hamels gone. Maine in.

Valverade gone. Gorlazanny in.

AL league.

Young out. Orlando Cab in.

Crawford out. Sosa in.

Sizemore out. BJ Upton in.

High 5 · Post #22 » by **High 5** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 6:36 pm

Jose7� wrote:McCann over Bengie?

What a joke.

Makes up for last year when McCann should have been the starter. :lol:

Post #23 » by **Da Schwab** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 7:28 pm

My problems with the rosters:

-Matt Holliday should be starting as said before, preferrably over Carlos Beltran.

-Sammy Sosa should be in the game instead of Manny. We all know that Manny will have some sort of "injury" by the time next Wednesday rolls around.

-Victor Martinez should be starting at C for the AL. With all due respect to Pudge, the only reason he's going to SanFran is that he won a popularity contest.

-How Ryan Howard isn't there is beyond me.

-This may just be my complete hatred for Jose Reyes shining through, but, JJ Hardy deserves to start at SS for the NL.

-Freddy Sanchez should be switched with Craig Biggio.

-If Jake Peavy and CC Sabathia don't start the game.... then something went horribly wrong.

Oh.... BTW.... Does anyone know who's managing the NL since Willie Randolph is having shoulder surgery?

34Celtic · Post #24 » by **34Celtic** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 7:31 pm

gunnabdaschwab09 wrote:-This may just be my complete hatred for Jose Reyes shining through, but, JJ Hardy deserves to start at SS for the NL.

-Freddy Sanchez should be switched with Craig Biggio.

Well Reyes has been doing it all year. Hardy hasn't done a thing the last month.

I know the all-star game has been used as a sendoff for great players in the past, the problem is the average casual fan doesn't know how great of a career Craig Biggio has had.

mets87 · Post #25 » by **mets87** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 7:32 pm

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Hamels is a better player, like Reyes is a better player. I'll take Hamels any day to start over Mayne

i agree that hamels probably has more talent but the all-star game is for the guys having the best season so far. maine's having a better season

edit: props for asking for real stats. i like it

34Celtic · Post #26 » by **34Celtic** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 8:12 pm

mets87 wrote:edit: props for asking for real stats. i like it

Too bad I was wrong lol

Post #27 » by **B Mac** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 8:45 pm

gunnabdaschwab09 wrote:
-If Jake Peavy and CC Sabathia don't start the game.... then something went horribly wrong.

Ive been saying this for weeks now. Good to hear someone else say it.

Post #28 » by **sunshinekids99** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 8:49 pm

Not sure how time between starts will work out, but if he's ready to go Dan Haren should be the starter. Although I have a strong feeling Verlander will be the guy.

High 5 · Post #29 » by **High 5** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 9:11 pm

It's a shame Chipper was hurt or he'd be the easy selection at 3rd. Regardless, he and Cabrera both deserve it over Wright. That's really my only complaint. I'm willing to agree with Reyes starting because of his stolen bases. Renteria deserved it otherwise. Hardy got off to a great start, but he was absolute garbage in June.

mets87 · Post #30 » by **mets87** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 10:21 pm

he wouldn't necessarily be the "easy" selection, as cabrera is opsing .976 to chipper's 1.000 in 80 more at bats. but he's definitely raking. gotta remember that the all-star game is a popularity contest.

High 5 · Post #31 » by **High 5** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 10:41 pm

I know. That's why Wright won.

bringinhinkie · Post #32 » by **bringinhinkie** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 1:03 am

gunnabdaschwab09 wrote:My problems with the rosters:

-This may just be my complete hatred for Jose Reyes shining through, but, JJ Hardy deserves to start at SS for the NL.

how could any1 hate jose!!!???

bringinhinkie · Post #33 » by **bringinhinkie** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 1:22 am

High 5 wrote:It's a shame Chipper was hurt or he'd be the easy selection at 3rd. Regardless, he and Cabrera both deserve it over Wright. That's really my only complaint. I'm willing to agree with Reyes starting because of his stolen bases. Renteria deserved it otherwise. Hardy got off to a great start, but he was absolute garbage in June.

or 400OBP while batting leadoff and being the fastest player, HENCE why he has all them sb's? rocket arm? only 4 errors? batting around 320 doesnt hurt. reyes is more than the fastest man in the game, dont let it fool you. not to mention all his intangibles, causing all them balks, stats with RISP, etcetc.

risp:
renteria 349 (324 normal ba)
reyes 324 (317 normal ba)
ramirez 266 (318 normal ba)
rollins 266 (284 normal bs)
hardy 269 (283 normal ba)

reyes: 4 errors
ramirez: 15 errors
rollins: 7 errors
hardy: 8 errors
renteria: 6 errors

Renteria is denitely having a great season, but with all reyes brings, you cant choose anyone over him. same with beltran, hes struggled 274 14hrs 49rbi 13sb, but also plays gold glove defense. yea holliday should have made it, but not over beltran.

Post #34 » by **B Mac** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 2:22 am

sunshinekids99 wrote:Not sure how time between starts will work out, but if he's ready to go Dan Haren should be the starter. Although I have a strong feeling Verlander will be the guy.

Should be a heck of a game on Thursday afternoon between Cleveland and Detroit as CC and Verlander are scheduled to face each other. I say the winner of that game will be the starter for the AL, barring any 10-9 victories of course.

Huge series regardless, for any interested in watching.

High 5 · Post #35 » by **High 5** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 2:33 am

KnicksMetsJetsNova wrote:
or 400OBP while batting leadoff and being the fastest player, HENCE why he has all them sb's? rocket arm? only 4 errors? batting around 320 doesnt hurt. reyes is more than the fastest man in the game, dont let it fool you. not to mention all his intangibles, causing all them balks, stats with RISP, etcetc.

One, I said Reyes deserved it over Renteria, but I stand by it being only because of his stolen bases. When you compare the numbers, Renteria is the winner.

Renteria vs. Reyes

BA: .324 -- .317
OBP: .386 -- .398
SLG: .493 -- .451
OPS: .879 -- .851
RBI: 41 -- 34
HR: 10 -- 4
RISP: .349 -- .324
SB: 7 - 40 (that's the big difference)

34Celtic · Post #36 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 12:16 pm

B Mac wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Should be a heck of a game on Thursday afternoon between Cleveland and Detroit as CC and Verlander are scheduled to face each other. I say the winner of that game will be the starter for the AL, barring any 10-9 victories of course.

Huge series regardless, for any interested in watching.

I'll take some interest. It must be nice not having to watch Bobby Abreu, Robby Cano, and Matsui every day.

Post #37 » by **Da Schwab** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 9:23 pm

B Mac wrote:Should be a heck of a game on Thursday afternoon between Cleveland and Detroit as CC and Verlander are scheduled to face each other. I say the winner of that game will be the starter for the AL, barring any 10-9 victories of course.
Huge series regardless, for any interested in watching.

I agree with that.

I know I'll be watching this series. Good to see a battle at the top of the Central thats not between the Twinkies and the Sox. If the Tribe get to the postseason, and the Yanks don't, I'll be pulling for them when October rolls around.

Post #38 » by **sunshinekids99** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 11:06 am

John Smoltz is out of the All-Star game. I'm assuming they will wait until the final vote is over to name a replacement. That would most likely mean that Chris Young will be the final vote guy. I'd like to see John Maine get in to the game, but I doubt it if he wasn't in the final five. So based on the final five, Tom Gorzelanny should be the guy.

The other player who could be out is Alex Rodriguez. If Arod is out I'd like to see Kevin Youkilis take his spot. He's more than able of playing third base. He obviously has the numbers to be worthy of the game as well. If it has to be an everyday guy at third, I guess Casey Blake would be the guy.

bigboy1234 · Post #39 » by **bigboy1234** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 11:59 am

Ian Snell>Tom Gorzelanny

Fact.

Theres no way in hell Gorzelanny should be in the all-star game.

Also, just because I haven't talked about it, how the hell does Brian Fuentes make the all-star game. And 3 others to a slightly lesser extent that are NL pitchers that I don't think should have made the game are T. Hoffman, J. Valverde, and although close B. Sheets wouldn't make my team. Theres no way in hell anyone of those 3 relievers have been anywhere close as good as Heath Bell, amongst others. Freddy Sanchez makes this team, good god, don't let someone who actually deserves it make it. And not to offend any Brewer fans (again) but JJ Hardy hasn't even been a top 4 SS this year (although close) in the NL and Renteria should've made the team because he's been the 2nd best SS this year in the NL. And the last thing is there is no way Carlos Lee has been better than Eric Byrnes this year, despite all those RBI that Lee has.

Just my thoughts.

Post #40 » by **sunshinekids99** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 12:20 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:Ian Snell>Tom Gorzelanny

Fact.

Theres no way in hell Gorzelanny should be in the all-star game.

.

I agree Snell is the better pitcher. I just findi it hard to believe that LaRussa will pick someone other than his final five to replace a pitcher. Out of those five(minus Young), Gorzelanny is the best IMO.