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All Star Voting

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:12 pm
by Klomp
I'm sorry, but this needs to be addressed.

Justin Morneau would have a good shot at the AL MVP if the season ended today: .377 avg (1st), 11 HRs (5th), 35 RBI (5th), .685 SLG (1st).

And yet, he is in 2nd in the ASG voting, nearly 150,000 votes behind Mark Teixeira, whose numbers are .216 avg, 7 HRs, 30 RBIs, .378 SLG. (Yes, Morneau's batting average is only .001 behind Teixeira's slugging.)

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:41 pm
by TyCobb
American Leaugue
C Joe Mauer
1B Justin Morneau
2B Robinson Cano
SS Alex Gonzalez
3B Evan Longoria
LF Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells
RF Alex Rios
DH Vladimir Guerrero

National League
C Miguel Olivo
1B Albert Pujols
2B Chase Utley
SS Hanley Ramirez
3B Casey McGehee
LF Ryan Braun
CF Andrew McCutchen
RF Andre Ethier
DH Joey Votto

Is what my starters look like as of May 28, 2010.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:50 pm
by VinnyTheMick
Klomp wrote:I'm sorry, but this needs to be addressed.

Justin Morneau would have a good shot at the AL MVP if the season ended today: .377 avg (1st), 11 HRs (5th), 35 RBI (5th), .685 SLG (1st).

And yet, he is in 2nd in the ASG voting, nearly 150,000 votes behind Mark Teixeira, whose numbers are .216 avg, 7 HRs, 30 RBIs, .378 SLG. (Yes, Morneau's batting average is only .001 behind Teixeira's slugging.)


Wait, you're telling me all star voting is a popularity contest? No way.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:56 pm
by Schad
TyCobb wrote:American Leaugue
C Joe Mauer
1B Justin Morneau
2B Robinson Cano
SS Alex Gonzalez
3B Evan Longoria
LF Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells
RF Alex Rios
DH Vladimir Guerrero

National League
C Miguel Olivo
1B Albert Pujols
2B Chase Utley
SS Hanley Ramirez
3B Casey McGehee
LF Ryan Braun
CF Andrew McCutchen
RF Andre Ethier
DH Joey Votto

Is what my starters look like as of May 28, 2010.


Looks about right, though I might give Jose Bautista the nod over Alex Rodriguez if we're talking pure performance. While that might be the single most insane sentence ever constructed, Bautista currently sports an OPS+ over 150 and leads the majors in HRs (again, I can't believe that's possible), with Rodriguez over 20 points behind.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:33 am
by bigboy1234
Never understood why MLB just doesn't use an agreed upon projection system to select the players, that way the actual best players will go not the players with most fans, most popular players, or players who get hot for a couple months to start the season and definitely aren't "stars."

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:01 pm
by Dirty Water
MLB is in a constant struggle to maintain their fans. Suddenly changing the system to shut them out of all-star voting may help the most deserving players get in the game, but may alienate the fans. Without fans, MLB obviously wouldn't exist.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:44 pm
by bigboy1234
Fans will get over it. They will always be there. Pre-1970 fans didn't vote and somehow the game is still going. Plus I'm sure fans of non-elite markets love seeing their guys not get in.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2010 2:17 pm
by Worm Guts
Who cares if the best players get in? It's an exhibition game.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2010 6:00 pm
by VinnyTheMick
Worm Guts wrote:Who cares if the best players get in? It's an exhibition game.



i'm sorry sir but this time IT MATTERS!

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2010 11:02 pm
by FreeAgent
VinnyTheMick wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Who cares if the best players get in? It's an exhibition game.



i'm sorry sir but this time IT MATTERS!


Speaking of...

Have they taken out that stupid rule where the winner of the ASG gets home field in the World Series?

Edit: Just looked it up, and they haven't. *Sigh*

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Wed Jun 2, 2010 6:11 am
by HCYanks
Repealing the rule would require the commissioner to make a competent and thoughtful decision.

I don't think Bud Selig knows those exist.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Sun Jun 6, 2010 2:35 am
by CentralQB5
All Star voting is all populatiry based

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Sun Jun 6, 2010 3:12 pm
by VinnyTheMick
CentralQB5 wrote:All Star voting is all populatiry based



Yep. It's all about who is the most populat.

Re: All Star Voting

Posted: Sun Jun 6, 2010 8:15 pm
by sunshinekids99
HCYanks wrote:Repealing the rule would require the commissioner to make a competent and thoughtful decision.

I don't think Bud Selig knows those exist.


Be nice to Bud. He's getting old and cranky. Seriously tho I agree with you 100%.