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Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:57 pm
by WEFFPIM
NEW YORK (AP)—The New York Times reported on its website Thursday that federal authorities have decided to indict Roger Clemens on charges of making false statements to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs.
The Times said it based its report on information from two people briefed on the matter and said an announcement is expected in the near future.
Clemens and his former trainer, Brian McNamee, testified under oath at a hearing before a House committee and contradicted each other about whether Clemens had used the banned substances.
The committee held the hearing in February 2008.
McNamee has told federal agents, baseball investigator George Mitchell and the committee that he injected Clemens more than a dozen times with steroids and human growth hormone from 1998-01.
Clemens has maintained that McNamee was lying.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=A ... s-steroidsI'm floored.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:38 pm
by cb4_89
This whole thing is pretty stupid. He has been through enough. Just leave him alone. It isn't like he lied about some murder. His name is tarnished anyway.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:01 pm
by sunshinekids99
Here is an idea don't lie to congress. I actually find it quite funny that he's been indicted.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:31 pm
by WEFFPIM
sunshinekids99 wrote:Here is an idea don't lie to congress. I actually find it quite funny that he's been indicted.
It's amazing how simple that sounds. You'd think of places you probably shouldn't lie, Congress is pretty high on this list in my eyes.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:46 pm
by Da Schwab
I have done nothing but laugh at this entire situation. The congressmen who played a major role in his hearing, specifically Elijah Cummings, had said numerous times that all Clemens had to do was just come out and say he had taken steroids, or even elude to the fact that he may have done them. Instead, he vehemently denied the fact and became an even bigger idiot after misremembering the English language.
Maybe him and Bonds can share a cell...
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:53 pm
by craig01
Clemens is an arrogant dumb ass.
He was however, one helluva pitcher.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:37 am
by Buckeye-NBAFan
cb4_89 wrote:This whole thing is pretty stupid. He has been through enough. Just leave him alone. It isn't like he lied about some murder. His name is tarnished anyway.
Vick wouldn't have served jail time if he hadn't lied. You'd think people would learn.
Bank CEOs didn't murder anyone. Should they have to tell the truth under oath in front of Congress?
How about drug suppliers? Illegal drug users don't have to tell the truth under oath in front of Congress according to you, so why should the dealers? After all, they don't exist without users.
They should name you the truth Czar, and you can decide who actually has to tell the truth to the American people and their representatives in Congress.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:41 am
by craig01
Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
Bank CEOs didn't murder anyone. Should they have to tell the truth under oath in front of Congress?
Maybe when they start telling the truth.....lol
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:58 pm
by oomalay
cb4_89 wrote:This whole thing is pretty stupid. He has been through enough. Just leave him alone. It isn't like he lied about some murder. His name is tarnished anyway.
...too easy.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:08 pm
by Nolan
What an idiot.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:59 am
by Pharmcat
all he had to do was take the 5th in that meeting...his lawyer sucks
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:55 pm
by craig01
Pharmcat wrote:all he had to do was take the 5th in that meeting...his lawyer sucks
That lawyer has really put Clemens behind the eight ball.
Remember the press conference with the playing of the taped phone conversation with McNamee?
Lawyer is and was a fool.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:24 am
by Pharmcat
i never understood the point of playing those tapes
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:00 pm
by craig01
Pharmcat wrote:i never understood the point of playing those tapes
I don't think there was a point....except that the lawyer , I think, liked the drama of being on TV.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:06 am
by Believe Donaghy
Yes OP, we all have a tv and can read a newspaper. This story is getting really old.
Most players have been on the juice at some point in their career. Might as well man up and admit it.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:53 pm
by mike_miller
craig01 wrote:Pharmcat wrote:all he had to do was take the 5th in that meeting...his lawyer sucks
That lawyer has really put Clemens behind the eight ball.
Remember the press conference with the playing of the taped phone conversation with McNamee?
Lawyer is and was a fool.
hes not being charged with anything outside of his testimony to congress, which he did against his lawyers advise
no one to blame here but the rocket...
iguess being a total d-bag for 30 years eventually catches up with you
cb4_89 wrote:This whole thing is pretty stupid. He has been through enough. Just leave him alone. It isn't like he lied about some murder. His name is tarnished anyway.
wtf has be through? he was making 20 mil a year like 2 years ago?
plus, telling the truth under oath is kind of the basis for our entire legal system. its kind of important.
god i hope he fights this hard and gets like 3 years..
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:53 pm
by craig01
More like 12-18 months.
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:55 am
by Pharmcat
is there any plea deal he can get to get out of this?
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:54 pm
by mike_miller
^ there was..
i belive thats what happend to tejada and giambi..
but the rocket is basically a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) person with a gift from god..so he choose to go up and there way his finger in the face of alot of important and powerful people..
why settle? they have the case bagged for the most part
Re: Clemens To Be Indicted For Lying To Congress
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:40 pm
by craig01
Pharmcat wrote:is there any plea deal he can get to get out of this?
Good question.....before all is said and done, I think Congress just wanted an admission....and personally, imo, that door might still be open.
It would be very ironic if Congress puts Clemens in jail for lying in front of liars and tax cheats .