Miguel Cabrera is better than everyone.

[Han Solo]

This guy is going to be one of the all-time greats when it's all said and done.

[TyCobb]

Yeah, he is amazing. Truly on another level than anybody else.

[UN-Owen]

The Marlins should've folded the moment he was traded

[Zeitgeister]

Well, if we lived in a world where Mike Trout didn't exist, I would agree.

[sunshinekids99]

Trout is a great player, but there is not a better hitter in baseball than Cabrera.

[Zeitgeister]

Trout is a great player, but there is not a better hitter in baseball than Cabrera.

I agree, there isn't a better hitter. That said, Trout isn't THAT far behind. He started out slow in April, but he's been amazing in May. I think Trout might bring more to the table when you consider his defense and running ability. Also, Miggy is in his prime, Trout probably isn't. It's scary how good he should be in his prime.

[sunshinekids99]

I'm sure looking forward to see what Trout can do when he does hit his prime, he's going to be a special player.

[BayAreaMadSkill]

This might sound crazy, but I actually think Joey Votto is a better hitter than Cabrera. Votto is like a technician at the plate.

However, Cabrera is the most dangerous and well-rounded offensive player in the game.

Makes sense to me atleast.

[ChronicKerr]

Chris Davis is straight dealing so far this year. 1st (by a lot) in HR's, 2nd in RBI's, and 2nd in BA. You guys think this is for real?

[Higga]

Chris Davis is straight dealing so far this year. 1st (by a lot) in HR's, 2nd in RBI's, and 2nd in BA. You guys think this is for real?

He killed my Nats last night. Now is he for real? No idea. I'm always suspicious when a career nobody blows up out of nowhere. But Camden Yards is very hitter friendly and he's got a great lineup around him so he'll always see pitches, but I suspect he's on something. I mean he's basically putting up Barry Bonds #s.

Nobody beats Miggy with the bat. Except Bryce Harper in a couple years. (assuming he doesn't keep running into walls)

[High 5]

The Marlins should've folded the moment he was traded

Let's not pretend like the Marlins haven't gotten 5+ years of Burke Badenhop out of the pen. It was one of those rare trades where both sides won.

[UN-Owen]

Chris Davis is straight dealing so far this year. 1st (by a lot) in HR's, 2nd in RBI's, and 2nd in BA. You guys think this is for real?

He killed my Nats last night. Now is he for real? No idea. I'm always suspicious when a career nobody blows up out of nowhere. But Camden Yards is very hitter friendly and he's got a great lineup around him so he'll always see pitches, but I suspect he's on something. I mean he's basically putting up Barry Bonds #s.

Nobody beats Miggy with the bat. Except Bryce Harper in a couple years. (assuming he doesn't keep running into walls)

Davis was the best power hitting prospect in baseball a few years ago

I'm not sure if he's clean or not, but he's always had the swing to be an elite power hitter

[Da Schwab]

It is absolutely insane what he is doing this season. .372, 16 HRs and 61 RBI... IN TWO FRICKING MONTHS!!!

How? How can someone do this? It's mind-boggling. What's even crazier is that Chris Davis is tearing the cover off the ball, too and almost no one realizes it.

These two guys may battle for the Triple Crown this year, and not just in the AL, but the whole of Major League Baseball. Incredible.

[Han Solo]

Trout fanboys are super annoying. I don't even bother arguing anymore.

Trout will never in his career be a better hitter than Cabrera. Is he a better all-around player? Probably, but run Miggy's stats right now with History.

Miggy is following a Triple Crown year and hitting like Barry Bonds without cheating like Bonds did.

Enjoy the best hitter in baseball, right in the middle of his prime..

[Zeitgeister]

Trout fanboys are super annoying. I don't even bother arguing anymore.

Trout will never in his career be a better hitter than Cabrera. Is he a better all-around player? Probably, but run Miggy's stats right now with History.

Miggy is following a Triple Crown year and hitting like Barry Bonds without cheating like Bonds did.

Enjoy the best hitter in baseball, right in the middle of his prime..

Trout "fanboys" are probably super annoying to you because you know its a strong argument.

When you say "Miguel Cabrera is better than everyone" and don't clarify that you are specifically talking about hitting, and not the best player in baseball, of course I'm going to bring up Trout.

Honestly, you admit that Trout is probably a better all-around player. You do realize that Trout is 21 years old and Miggy is 30 right? Trout's hitting better than Miggy did at the same age BTW. So to say he'll never hit like Miggy is now, is not something you can predict.

Miggy is NOT hitting like Barry Bonds. Bonds was hitting as the first or second best hitter in history when he was roided up. His OPS was a few hundred points higher than Miggy's is now, at it's peak. I don't care about the triple crown, as it's really just a perfect storm of personal play and luck. Pujols had a number of seasons better than Miggy's last year and he never won the triple crown. Bonds had several seasons better and never won the triple crown.

The triple crown is overrated, hell the fact that it relies on RBIs instantly makes me question its value.

So, I really enjoy watching Miggy play, he's an exceptional hitting talent but there is an argument that Trout might be the better baseball player. Oh, and I don't know what the hell is going on with Chris Davis, but it's something to keep your eye on.

[Quake Griffin]

knew when he swigged that tequila in front of the officer while getting pulled over that he was made out of stuff i like.
randomly caught the Red Line (chicago ppl) to US Cellular and got a cheap ticket...so him hit a dart over the left field fence.

the chances for me to see Miggy are rare...so I've cherished that experience. Not only did I see him play, I saw him hit a freakin homer.



i can only hope he can continue hit like this until 33/34 and we're forced to honor it as one of the best stretches in baseball like Barry had.

[Quake Griffin]

annoying to see someone write that his number is skewed because he has the most chances.

his numbers are OFF THE CHARTS, not just slightly ahead of the pack.

[Manocad]

Trout is a great player, but there is not a better hitter in baseball than Cabrera.

I agree, there isn't a better hitter. That said, Trout isn't THAT far behind. He started out slow in April, but he's been amazing in May. I think Trout might bring more to the table when you consider his defense and running ability. Also, Miggy is in his prime, Trout probably isn't. It's scary how good he should be in his prime.

Hitting isn't just average. It's average, power, and driving runs in. That being said, Trout is further from Cabrera as a hitter than "he's not that far behind." If you discounted defense and baserunning and left the discussion to just hitting as a value, nobody would be mentioning Trout in the same sentence as Cabrera. Argue all you'd like that Trout may be a more valuable player; that's fine since he certainly brings more to the table in terms of baserunning and defense. But he is not the hitter that Cabrera is.

And the rookie year extrapolation game doesn't work. Trying to say that Trout's rookie season will be a precursor to his career in the sense that he'll be better "in his prime" is just as unreliable as saying that Cabrera's rookie year would be a precursor to what he's doing now, which it wasn't. Cabrera has had fine career stats but nothing "Holy mother of god" like last year or this year.

[Zeitgeister]

Trout is a great player, but there is not a better hitter in baseball than Cabrera.

I agree, there isn't a better hitter. That said, Trout isn't THAT far behind. He started out slow in April, but he's been amazing in May. I think Trout might bring more to the table when you consider his defense and running ability. Also, Miggy is in his prime, Trout probably isn't. It's scary how good he should be in his prime.

Hitting isn't just average. It's average, power, and driving runs in. That being said, Trout is further from Cabrera as a hitter than "he's not that far behind." If you discounted defense and baserunning and left the discussion to just hitting as a value, nobody would be mentioning Trout in the same sentence as Cabrera. Argue all you'd like that Trout may be a more valuable player; that's fine since he certainly brings more to the table in terms of baserunning and defense. But he is not the hitter that Cabrera is.

And the rookie year extrapolation game doesn't work. Trying to say that Trout's rookie season will be a precursor to his career in the sense that he'll be better "in his prime" is just as unreliable as saying that Cabrera's rookie year would be a precursor to what he's doing now, which it wasn't. Cabrera has had fine career stats but nothing "Holy mother of god" like last year or this year.

You're right that hitting isn't just average, but I can't figure out why you think that's all that Trout does. He's been a leadoff hitter for most of his career so far, so there are very few opportunities to tally RBIs. That being said, I find the RBI stat to be completely archaic and not particularly useful anymore because it's too biased towards team performance.

Trout hit 30 home runs last year, and wasn't called up until a month into the season. This year, Miggy has probably been better overall, but Trout shouldn't be terribly behind. He had a bad April but he's hitting a lot better since then.

The extrapolation doesn't just come from his rookie year. It comes from his sophmore year so far, and his minor league performance and scouting reports. Trout is a generational talent. Trout is 21 years old and playing extremely well, particularly for his age. One can look at an average career arc and see that Trout will likely be a considerably better hitter in his prime.

I'm not sure why you want to discount all the other parts of the game that are important, unless you have a bias towards Miggy. Baserunning and defense have value and can make a significant difference in games. I do think hitting is the most important thing a position player can do, but the fact that Trout hits really well and does those other things, it puts him an elite group.

[Manocad]

I'm not discounting any other part of the game at all. Trout being better than Cabrera on the basepaths or in the field has absolutely no bearing on how they compare as hitters which is the point I specifically addressed. It's ironic that you accuse me of downplaying something that has nothing to do with hitting while you downplay RBI's; if you can't hit you get no RBI's. You're also continuing to make your case for Trout by using a number of downplays that ARE directly related to hitting--he started slow, he's a leadoff hitter, if you extrapolate what he's done in 2012-13 because he's not in his prime yet, etc. Cabrera has been doing it for ten years and when it counted last year Cabrera lead his team to the World Series. Trout hit .284 and .257 in August and September last year compared to Cabrera's .357 and .308. That's part of being a great hitter too.

So sorry, I don't think you've made a case that as hitters, they're all that close to each other. If they were, Trout would be hitting third or fourth.