How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot?

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How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#1 » by ubernathan » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:00 am

You want to complain about the Redskins, fine, do as you please. But what about the Indians? Their name may be more innocuous, but their mascot and logo is a gruesome leering red-faced caricature of an Indigenous American named Chief Wahoo. How do they get away with it when the Redskins can't? Is it because most Americans aren't aware of their existence?

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Re: How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#2 » by tidho » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:48 pm

I hope you actually understand the difference between using the name "__skins" and having a caricature.

Regardless, i'm not sure what "get away with" in this context means as the Redkins aren't changing their name and have essentially gotten away with it themselves.

For what its worth there are fairly regular protests in Cleveland. As with most of this sort, actual American Indians don't seem to care but a bunch of very vigilant folks care on their behalf.

The organization has been slowly phasing out Chief Wahoo too. He's largely been removed from the stadium, they no longer use him in big screen graphics, and his visibility on uniforms has been decreasing for about 4 years.
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Re: How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#3 » by mplsfonz23 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:29 pm

tidho wrote:I hope you actually understand the difference between using the name "__skins" and having a caricature.

Regardless, i'm not sure what "get away with" in this context means as the Redkins aren't changing their name and have essentially gotten away with it themselves.

For what its worth there are fairly regular protests in Cleveland. As with most of this sort, actual American Indians don't seem to care but a bunch of very vigilant folks care on their behalf.

The organization has been slowly phasing out Chief Wahoo too. He's largely been removed from the stadium, they no longer use him in big screen graphics, and his visibility on uniforms has been decreasing for about 4 years.


Good point, but they prefer "Native Americans."
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Re: How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#4 » by FNQ » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:03 pm

Welp, Chief Wahoo will be retired in 2019
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Re: How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#5 » by FNQ » Mon Feb 5, 2018 7:59 pm

Jim Thome refusing to have the Chief Wahoo logo on his hat in Cooperstown, wants the Cleveland "C".

Good on him, one of the better guys in baseball for a long time. Squeaky clean, too.
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Re: How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#6 » by jason bourne » Sat Apr 7, 2018 6:48 pm

tidho wrote:I hope you actually understand the difference between using the name "__skins" and having a caricature.

Regardless, i'm not sure what "get away with" in this context means as the Redkins aren't changing their name and have essentially gotten away with it themselves.

For what its worth there are fairly regular protests in Cleveland. As with most of this sort, actual American Indians don't seem to care but a bunch of very vigilant folks care on their behalf.

The organization has been slowly phasing out Chief Wahoo too. He's largely been removed from the stadium, they no longer use him in big screen graphics, and his visibility on uniforms has been decreasing for about 4 years.


I think Native Americans and people still do care over both despite the survey. It's a bigger deal to change the Redskins name though as Chief Wahoo will be gone next year. The Golden State WARRIORS have used a Native American reference in the past with a headdress for their logo. I'm not sure what another name could be to replace Redskins, but it should be replaced. It could be Washington Warriors. Just a thought.
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Re: How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#7 » by anatomicbomb » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:28 pm

mplsfonz23 wrote:
tidho wrote:I hope you actually understand the difference between using the name "__skins" and having a caricature.

Regardless, i'm not sure what "get away with" in this context means as the Redkins aren't changing their name and have essentially gotten away with it themselves.

For what its worth there are fairly regular protests in Cleveland. As with most of this sort, actual American Indians don't seem to care but a bunch of very vigilant folks care on their behalf.

The organization has been slowly phasing out Chief Wahoo too. He's largely been removed from the stadium, they no longer use him in big screen graphics, and his visibility on uniforms has been decreasing for about 4 years.


Good point, but they prefer "Native Americans."
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But eventually they got Sabathia on the right boat and he landed at New York port authority :lol:

"Indigenous" and "aboriginal" peoples are better terms, too
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Re: How do the Cleveland Indians get away with Racist Mascot? 

Post#8 » by And1+2 » Fri Jun 1, 2018 1:22 am

Ironically, because of "history". (lol)

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