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The Draft 2007

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 7:06 pm
by jman3134
No one's talking?

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 7:07 pm
by FNQ
I'm watching it at work...it's kind of dull, Steve Phillips babbles like a complete idiot...

Re: The Draft 2007

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 7:09 pm
by bigboy1234
jman3134 wrote:No one's talking?

Theres other mlb boards ya know. :wink:

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 7:50 pm
by jman3134
^ Where?

It's BS. Porcello- the best pitcher in the entire draft- hasn't been selected yet. He is above and beyond every player in the entire draft. That's what I don't like about baseball. Teams draft based off of talent and draftability.

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 7:54 pm
by OSBB
jman3134 wrote:^ Where?

It's BS. Porcello- the best pitcher in the entire draft- hasn't been selected yet. He is above and beyond every player in the entire draft. That's what I don't like about baseball. Teams draft based off of talent and draftability.


Wieters, Vitter, Price, Aumont are all > Porcello

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 7:55 pm
by bigboy1234
Minor Leagues Board, and trust me I shed a tear when my Cards just passed on him especially for a average middle infielder.

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 7:57 pm
by bigboy1234
OldSchoolBBall wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Wieters, Vitter, Price, Aumont are all > Porcello

And what do you base this off of? Price is better now, but Porcello has a higher ceiling. Porcello is the best pitching prospect out of HS since Beckett.

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 8:01 pm
by jman3134
OldSchoolBBall wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Wieters, Vitter, Price, Aumont are all > Porcello


BS :nonono:

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 8:24 pm
by sideshowking24
jman3134 wrote:It's BS. Porcello- the best pitcher in the entire draft- hasn't been selected yet. He is above and beyond every player in the entire draft. That's what I don't like about baseball. Teams draft based off of talent and draftability.


well what do you expect? Its not like these players are going to impact their clubs at the big league level in the very near future. and its signability, not draftability.

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 8:39 pm
by OSBB
Goddamn the Tigers.

Maybin, Miller, Porcello.

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 8:40 pm
by Swift21
jman3134 wrote:^ Where?

It's BS. Porcello- the best pitcher in the entire draft- hasn't been selected yet. He is above and beyond every player in the entire draft. That's what I don't like about baseball. Teams draft based off of talent and draftability.


Two words.. scott boras.

Why he slipped.

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 8:44 pm
by OSBB
Jeremy Bonderman
Justin Verlander
Andrew Miller
Rick Porcello
Jair Jurjjens

Joel Zumaya at closer


Disgusting.

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 10:07 pm
by randomhero423
this is the exact reason why MLB for me isn't better than the NFL. it's really not fair to teams that they need to worry about someone's agent. in the NFL it rarely happens (reggie bush). and plus the larger market teams will ALWAYS have a distinct advantage no matter what.

i can't really say what MLB should do, since i don't really have a idea. maybe a stiffer salary cap should be put in place. it's a complex issue because it's not only MLB's fault that the owners are cheap in certain cities.

i just hope it becomes more exposed than ever and they become more concerned about this, than about what happened in the 90's....

Posted: Thu Jun 7, 2007 11:47 pm
by Swift21
randomhero423 wrote:this is the exact reason why MLB for me isn't better than the NFL. it's really not fair to teams that they need to worry about someone's agent. in the NFL it rarely happens (reggie bush). and plus the larger market teams will ALWAYS have a distinct advantage no matter what.

i can't really say what MLB should do, since i don't really have a idea. maybe a stiffer salary cap should be put in place. it's a complex issue because it's not only MLB's fault that the owners are cheap in certain cities.

i just hope it becomes more exposed than ever and they become more concerned about this, than about what happened in the 90's....


The MLB still wouldn't be better then the NFL even if you could get draft picks to sign easiar. That ship will never sail.

Posted: Fri Jun 8, 2007 1:11 am
by randomhero423
i don't mean as in business or anything. i'm talking personal opinon.

both are completely different sports though.

Posted: Fri Jun 8, 2007 1:52 am
by Buck You
Never put this draft on tv ever again. After the Brewers picked I was completely tuning it out. Boring.

Posted: Fri Jun 8, 2007 6:07 am
by trwi7
ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:Never put this draft on tv ever again. After the Brewers picked I was completely tuning it out. Boring.


Huge baseball fans such as myself probably love it. At least you only get 5 minutes for a draft pick. The NFL is horrible 15 minutes in the 1st round is way too long.

Posted: Fri Jun 8, 2007 9:24 pm
by SSUBluesman
I got to watch the first part of it before having to leave, which is good since evidently the Twins pick is ****...

I came in with a small amount of info on players, who were top guys, etc. and I think they would have been better served focusing more on the player and their ability and talking to BA guys more than Steve Phillips. They should have used the BA guys for evaluations of the player, Gammons for organizational impact/reasons, and Phillips to toss in a line or two. They extended the pick time to 5 minutes for t.v., and I don't think ESPN did the most with it they could. They should have really emphasized it's differences w/other leagues drafts to help non-diehard fans get a better understanding.

That's just my quick thoughts. Like I said I only got to watch the very first part, like the first 10 picks or so. Overall it wasn't bad, hopefully ESPN learns from their first year and improves on it for the future.

Posted: Sat Jun 9, 2007 1:50 pm
by kloo7
The main difference between interest in the two drafts is that even the casual football fan has heard of most of the top first rounders from the NFL draft, and all of the picks from Day 1 in the NFL are expected to be on rosters the following season.

The MLB draft, for a fan like me who follows the game fairly closely, is filled with guys I have never really heard much about, and won't be appearing in my home park for another 2, 3, 4 years, albeit with the odd phenom exception here and there.

That being said, the NFL can really help itself out by limiting first round picks to 5 minutes, I mean these managers have studied and studied these guys forever, do they really need 15 minutes to make that final choice? (No Minnesota Vikings jokes need be inserted here...)