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The wussification of American Youth Spots Continues
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:38 am
by 34Celtic
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/l ... -headlines
Little League is regulating pitch counts. And people wonder why pitchers can't go longer than 6 innings in the majors.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:07 am
by The Captain93
It IS bull. My last year in little league and I can barely pitch because of it. Most I can go at the BEST is 3 innings. Only if I hit my spots and don't walk batters.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:12 am
by 34Celtic
The Captain93 wrote:It IS bull. My last year in little league and I can barely pitch because of it. Most I can go at the BEST is 3 innings. Only if I hit my spots and don't walk batters.
Its 85 pitches for one day. And 60 if you want to pitch in the next three days. I don't think its bull to put a limit on the number of times per week you can pitch. But 85 pitches in one day?
You throw that many in three innings?
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:04 am
by randomhero423
i think it's def a good rule.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:10 pm
by Basketball Jesus
It's a fine rule. Most kids in Little League don't go on to pursue sports as a serious endeavor so why risk damaging a kid's arm at an early age over something as inane as Little League baseball? And, for those that do want to pursue pitching a bit more seriously, there are all kinds of offseason training programs/clinics for kids.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:49 pm
by Ex-hippie
34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Its 85 pitches for one day. And 60 if you want to pitch in the next three days. I don't think its bull to put a limit on the number of times per week you can pitch. But 85 pitches in one day?
You throw that many in three innings?
Sure, if your name is Jeff Weaver.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:53 pm
by The Captain93
34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Its 85 pitches for one day. And 60 if you want to pitch in the next three days. I don't think its bull to put a limit on the number of times per week you can pitch. But 85 pitches in one day?
You throw that many in three innings?
I guess I should have clarified. On back to backs. 2 days rest, it's 50. We don't have many games where it's three days in between.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:57 pm
by 34Celtic
hippie wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Sure, if your name is Jeff Weaver.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:47 am
by Bleeding Green
How about a curveball rule? No curveballs until high school. Just fastballs and changeups.
I don't even want to know how many people have **** up shoulders and elbows from throwing all day in Little League.
Great rule.
Re: The wussification of American Youth Spots Continues
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:39 am
by SportsWorld
34Celtic wrote:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/local/orl-littleleague1207jun12,0,7227627.story?coll=orl-sports-headlines
Little League is regulating pitch counts. And people wonder why pitchers can't go longer than 6 innings in the majors.

Actually your wrong. If kids throw more than 80 pitches a game when they are 12 they will have their arms completely used up by 25.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:12 am
by PhilipNelsonFan
Bleeding Green wrote:How about a curveball rule? No curveballs until high school. Just fastballs and changeups.
I don't even want to know how many people have **** up shoulders and elbows from throwing all day in Little League.
Great rule.
Also, this will probably lead to a decrease in b**ching from Little League parents who think their son is the next big thing.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:21 am
by craig01
The problem here, is that baseball can be played year round.
Whereas a kid from the north may only play competitively a few months a year, in Florida that same kid could be playing 10-11 months easily.
To me, that's more of a problem than the actual per game pitch count.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:42 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Bleeding Green wrote:How about a curveball rule? No curveballs until high school. Just fastballs and changeups.
I don't even want to know how many people have **** up shoulders and elbows from throwing all day in Little League.
Great rule.
We had a Little League coach that actually tried teaching kids to throw sliders. Nothing like guaranteeing a life of surgery quite like teaching an 11-year-old to sling sliders.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:27 pm
by 34Celtic
Basketball Jesus wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
We had a Little League coach that actually tried teaching kids to throw sliders. Nothing like guaranteeing a life of surgery quite like teaching an 11-year-old to sling sliders.
Lol, we don't agree much, but this time we do.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:45 pm
by Basketball Jesus
34Celtic wrote:
Lol, we don't agree much, but this time we do.
There was a study done a few years back that said TJ surgery isn
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:46 pm
by Basketball Jesus
This is why I
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:29 pm
by Chach
Pitching doesn't hurt your arm, pitching while your tired does because you lose your mechanics or you put extra stress on your elbow and shoulder. That's the maxim for ADULT pitchers, the same sort of rule applies to kids but it's slightly different because their bodies are still growing and cannot handle the strain of the constant workloads that these coaches throw on them. I grew up with kid who was a pretty good pitcher in the Little Leagues. Kid wasn't really good at school so I guess he thought baseball was his ticket so he played Little League/American Legion/traveling **** and his coaches road him into the ground. Kid could barely pitch when he got to HS! He was a shell of his former self, and that's pretty bad when you're a 14 year old shell. Maybe nothing would have happened but it's a shame that the one thing he had in life that made him genuinely happy was gone before he could drive. **** overzealous coaches and **** parents who are living out their dreams through their children's athletics, this is a fantastic rule. mahalo
~Chach~
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:56 pm
by The Captain93
Bleeding Green wrote:How about a curveball rule? No curveballs until high school. Just fastballs and changeups.
I don't even want to know how many people have **** up shoulders and elbows from throwing all day in Little League.
Great rule.
What if your pitches just have natural movement? What's stopping a kid from throwing a curve and using the excuse, "My pitches just move a lot"?
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:32 pm
by Chach
There is a completely different pitching motion for a curveball and a fastball. If the ump sees a kid throw a curve, it's an automatic ball. Simply as that. mahalo
~Chach~
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:43 pm
by cmaff051
There is nothing wrong with putting pitch counts on kids. Especially in little league. Some coaches will just abuse their kids arms, and what if a kid wants to have a professional career and his coach just abuses his arm?