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Zambrano finally signed to extension
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:34 pm
by 2poor
ESPN.com wrote:CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs right-handed pitcher Carlos Zambrano isn't going anywhere.
Zambrano has signed a five-year contract extension valued at $90 million, ESPN Radio 1000 is reporting.
Zambrano and the Cubs have been negotiating since the beginning of the season, but the impending sale of the team by the Tribune Company put the deal on hold. Zambrano has had a solid season, and the value of the deal is approximate $10 million more than it would have been in April.
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Apologies to Red Sox, Mets, and Yankees fans.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:38 pm
by 34Celtic
14 mil a year for him is a bargain
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:46 pm
by risktaker91
34Celtic wrote:14 mil a year for him is a bargain
Yeah, considering Zito got like 18 I think.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:47 pm
by cmaff051
90 million over 5 years is 18 million a year. Not exactly a bargain, but he's better than Zito.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:53 pm
by bigboy1234
cmaff051 wrote:90 million over 5 years is 18 million a year. Not exactly a bargain, but he's better than Zito.
Yeah, seriously, guys you need to work on your math. I don't really think that the Red Sox and Yankees fans should be upset about this though like at all. He would be what the 5th best starter on both teams next year. Zambrano has only been the 3rd best pitcher on his own team this year, and I think he's a little overrated. That being said Cubs fans love him and he is better than Zito who got even a bigger deal.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:08 pm
by GYBE
We have no one in our farm system ready to take a starting role and he would've been by far the best pitcher on the market. It's a big contract, but the Cubs really didn't have a choice.
The Yankees and Red Sox never made sense to me. They have good enough prospects to take rotation spots and Z's more valuable in the NL being the best hitting pitcher. I was more worried about the Mets.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:09 pm
by cb4_89
LOL at 14 million.
But yeah 18 million is what I thought he would get. Overrated as hell though.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:21 pm
by bigboy1234
he would've been by far the best pitcher on the market.
I think that goes to Curt Schilling.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:44 pm
by HeelSox
34Celtic wrote:14 mil a year for him is a bargain
leave it to a yankee.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:45 pm
by HeelSox
risktaker91 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yeah, considering Zito got like 18 I think.
easily the post of the year...not only did he quote 34celtic...but then agreed with him stating Zito got 18...so Zambrano was a bargain.
Re: Zambrano finally signed to extension
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:26 pm
by nykgeneralmanager
2poor wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
linkApologies to Red Sox, Mets, and Yankees fans.
Apologies? Hell I'm jumping up and down with you on this one. I was terrified that the Yankees might seriously offer this guy $15 mil a year, although I wish he did hit the market and ended up in Boston. Oh well.
I really don't think the Yankees would have even persued him too hard. The whole point of the Yanks holding onto all the top pitching prospects is so that they aren't forced into paying big money for any free agent pitchers, because that hasn't worked for anybody in baseball recently and Cashman realizes that.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:40 pm
by GYBE
bigboy1234 wrote:he would've been by far the best pitcher on the market.
I think that goes to Curt Schilling.
I think the market will disagree with you.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:51 pm
by bigboy1234
GYBE wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I think the market will disagree with you.

If only the market decided who was a better pitcher. Or else that Zito guy would be considered a lot better than that Lilly guy.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:57 pm
by GYBE
So you would rather have Schilling than Zambrano on the Cardinals going forward?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:59 pm
by bigboy1234
GYBE wrote:So you would rather have Schilling than Zambrano on the Cardinals going forward?

Next 2 years, yeah.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:05 pm
by GYBE
You could be right. I'd prefer the health of Zambrano, and you never know how quickly a pitcher will break down after passing 40 years old.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:12 pm
by 2poor
Take anything he says with a grain of salt.
We could be comparing Zambrano and <insert some scrub here> and he'll always take the scrub.
(hater)
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:22 pm
by Scrub Sura
bigboy1234 wrote:I think that goes to Curt Schilling.
ROTFL
nykgeneralmanager wrote:Apologies? Hell I'm jumping up and down with you on this one. I was terrified that the Yankees might seriously offer this guy $15 mil a year, although I wish he did hit the market and ended up in Boston.
ROTFL x2
Yeah...I'd pass on a young, dominating #1 starter in favor of paying the likes of Mike Mussina and Carl Pavano up the wazoo. Besides, since when did New Yorkers become concerned about their teams overpaying everyone in sight?
Remember this next year when you'll be begging for the selfish toolbox known as Roger Clemens to try and save your asses again.
Lord knows we all need a repeat of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEi734O5P6A
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:50 pm
by nykgeneralmanager
[quote="Scrub Sura"][/quote]
Zambrano's 1.3 WHIP and 3.8 ERA in the nl central leaves a lot to be desired. There are TWO worthy offenses in that division, and one is his very own team that he doesn't even have to pitch against. Personally, I'd have nightmares just thinking about what his numbers would balloon to in the AL east. I'm also not a fan of signing pitchers with all of those innings on his arm.
As for the Yankees rotation, who ever said I liked giving Pavano or Moose as much as they did? Plus I don't see room for Clemens next year: Wang-Hughes-Joba-Pettitte-Kennedy
So ROFLx100000 if you want, but that won't make Zambrano any better than he is.
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:07 pm
by bigboy1234
2poor wrote:Take anything he says with a grain of salt.
We could be comparing Zambrano and <insert some scrub here> and he'll always take the scrub.
(hater)
Really, you should learn something about baseball before you start talking stupid, like you do.
Zambrano is better than any of the current Cardinals pitchers, now does that mean anything no. Uh oh am I still a "hater", I'm so confused.
The things I've "hated" on the Cubs for:
1) Saying Jeff Samardzija wasn't as good as his signing bonus. Now he sure is impressing with his professional K/9 of 4, but hell what do I know. And please don't being up his small sample size at AA.
2) Rich Hill wouldn't finish the season with an ERA under 3. Wow, look who is right there, me again. See a pattern?
3) Saying I'd rather have Schilling over Zambrano over the next couple years. Seriously one pitches in the AL East, the other in the worst division in baseball. One walks way too many hitters, and the other doesn't. If they switched spots Schilling's ERA would be a good amount better.
ROTFL
Wow, another Cub fan that disagrees, shocker!