D-Backs/Astros trade, D-Backs close to Haren?

A.J. · Post #1 » by **A.J.** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:28 pm

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/arti ... p&c_id=hou

PHOENIX -- The D-backs are close to completing a deal to acquire right-hander Dan Haren and another player from the A's in exchange for six prospects, MLB.com has learned.
In addition, the D-backs will send closer Jose Valverde to the Astros in exchange for infielder Chris Burke and reliever Chad Qualls.

Both deals are set to be announced later this afternoon.

Included in the trade to Oakland are pitchers Brett Anderson, Greg Smith and Dana Eveland along with outfielders Carlos Gonzalez and Aaron Cunningham and first baseman Chris Carter

I like the trade for us..we get an all-star closer, now we need some starting pitching to get to valverde.

im going to miss you chad

SportsWorld · Post #2 » by **SportsWorld** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:29 pm

Astros=2008 Champs!!1111

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #3 » by **Buck You** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:31 pm

Valverde will be so wasted in Houston. He will have like no save situations and his contract might be lower next off season because of that. I hope though, for his sake, that the GM's look at his numbers in Arizona.

trwi7 · Post #4 » by **trwi7** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:33 pm

Damn fatty can't find a home. This is the second time he's been traded in a year.

trwi7 · Post #5 » by **trwi7** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:42 pm

So these are both deals.

A's send:

Dan Haren
Connor Robertson

D'Backs send:

Dana Eveland
Carlos Gonzalez
Aaron Cunningham
Chris Carter
Brett Anderson
Greg Smith

Astros send:

Chris Burke
Chad Qualls
Juan Gutierrez

D'Backs send:

Jose Valverde

The Astros are going to be incredibly bad. :rofl:

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #6 » by **Buck You** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:43 pm

trwi7 wrote:So these are both deals.

A's send:

Dan Haren
Connor Robertson

D'Backs send:

Dana Eveland
Carlos Gonzalez
Aaron Cunningham
Chris Carter
Brett Anderson
Greg Smith

Astros send:

Chris Burke
Chad Qualls
Juan Gutierrez

D'Backs send:

Jose Valverde

The Astros are going to be incredibly bad.

I know right? What's the point of trading for a top tier closer when you're going to be loosing all the time and have no starting pitching to get to him?

A.J. · Post #7 » by **A.J.** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:43 pm

Had 46 saves last season with a 2.66 ERA

man, we are aggressive. i really like this deal a lot.

Valverde is 28, by the way.

sign a couple of starters and tell me why we can't compete for the NL Central

Black Jesus 1 · Post #8 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:43 pm

Webb-Haren = we win teh world series!!!!!!11!!!!!!1!!!11

I'll miss Valverde, though

Black Jesus 1 · Post #9 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:44 pm

A.J. wrote:Had 46 saves last season with a 2.66 ERA

man, we are aggressive. i really like this deal a lot.

Valverde is 28, by the way.

sign a couple of starters and tell me why this team can't compete for the NL Central

That's why and even more so because it's is more than just ONE starter, it's multiple. You guys still blow.

meatball sub · Post #10 » by **meatball sub** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:49 pm

Carlos Gonzalez will FINALLY get a chance to shine.

trwi7 · Post #11 » by **trwi7** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:49 pm

A.J. wrote:sign a couple of starters and tell me why we can't compete for the NL Central

Yeah sign Carlos Silva and Livan Hernandez the two best starters left on the market because you can't trade for starters since you have nothing left in the farm system. ZOMG ASTROS FOR TEH CHAMPIONSHIP PWNZOR!!!!!!!1!1!!111!1!1!!!!!11!

A.J. · Post #12 » by **A.J.** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:49 pm

Black Jesus 1 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That's why and even more so because it's is more than just ONE starter, it's multiple. You guys still blow.

i hope wade signs a couple of starters if not it will be alot of high scoring loses.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #13 » by **Buck You** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:50 pm

A.J. wrote:Had 46 saves last season with a 2.66 ERA

man, we are aggressive. i really like this deal a lot.

Valverde is 28, by the way.

sign a couple of starters and tell me why we can't compete for the NL Central

Well you traded a good young player and an above average reliever for a reliever who is going to leave in the off season and you still have no starting pitching.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #14 » by **Buck You** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:51 pm

A.J. wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

i hope wade signs a couple of starters if not it will be alot of high scoring loses.

You missed out on Greg Aquino. He could have helped you. :wink:

Black Jesus 1 · Post #15 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:55 pm

bove310 wrote:Carlos Gonzalez will FINALLY get a chance to shine.

It's not like he didn't. It is that he wasn'tgoing to with Pop out in left for long term, CY in CF, and then J-Up in RF. I'd rather have Gonzalez then Byrnes, but oh well, we still have two studs in the OF.
He was in AA a majority of the year and was brought up to AAA in the late stages of the season. I doubt he would have been a call up anyways

Post #16 » by **Da Schwab** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:57 pm

A.J. wrote:sign a couple of starters and tell me why we can't compete for the NL Central

You see, in the game of baseball, the team with the most runs scored in a game at the end of nine innings is designated the winner.

In the case of the Astros, if you can't score runs, you don't win baseball games.

And that's why they won't win the Central.

Post #17 » by **Rafael122** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:02 am

Arizona traded 5 of their top 10 prospects for Haren. This is great news for the Orioles because that sets the market for what teams like Minnesota and Baltimore expect in return.

A.J. · Post #18 » by **A.J.** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:06 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well you traded a good young player and an above average reliever for a reliever who is going to leave in the off season and you still have no starting pitching.

burke is not a good young player..he is 28 years old, qualls i agree is an above average reliever, who i am going to miss.

as for valverde, he will not be a free agent next season, we have him under control for two more years

Wrighteous · Post #19 » by **Wrighteous** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:11 am

A Webb-Haren 1-2 punch is pretty damn nasty.

Black Jesus 1 · Post #20 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:12 am

Rafael122 wrote:Arizona traded 5 of their top 10 prospects for Haren. This is great news for the Orioles because that sets the market for what teams like Minnesota and Baltimore expect in return.

Meh. Eveland blows, and Cunningham won't be much at all in the majors, a Juan Pierre at best.
The others are pretty good.
Gonzalez is the meat of this, very good bat, with a rocket for an arm in the OF. Anderson could and probably will be a good player in the majors. Chris Carter we just acquired a week or so ago for Carlos Quentin from the White Sox.
This fixes our hole for a second starter behind Webb in the starting rotation. I didn't like having to rely on Davis to get it done, he's solid, but a little inconsistent. We can't rely on Randy either since he is near done, and is another tweaked back from calling it quits.
At least we kept Emilio Bonifacio in this trade, he's going to be a good second baseman in replacement for Hudson if he leaves this upcoming trade deadline ('08) or goes as a FA.
I don't like the Valverde deal much, though. I still thought he could have been effective here, he was a real spark in our bullpen, when he came in, it was exciting to watch. I'm going to guess Tony Pena will be our new closer, which is fine.