Josh Hamilton traded to the Rangers...

Post #1 » by **studcrackers** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:36 pm

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 85d1a.html

courtesy of Evan Grant at the Dallas Morning News

Josh Hamilton traded to the Rangers for Edinson Volquez and Danny Ray Herrera

im going out the door as i read this so i'll talk about it later.

looks like it gives the rangers there starting CF and the reds a potentially middle of the rotation starter and a midget RP pitcher. volquez has a nasty changeup though and just seems to be fixing his control. of course these 2 could be soon shipped for bedard.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #2 » by **Buck You** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:55 pm

Reds must not of liked his strikeouts.

trwi7 · Post #3 » by **trwi7** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:18 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:Reds must not of liked his strikeouts.

Yeah it's not like they held on to Adam Dunn or anything. :lol:

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #4 » by **Buck You** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:31 am

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah it's not like they held on to Adam Dunn or anything.

LoL. Yeah, that makes my statement look pretty dumb. But really, why did they trade him? He just had a good comeback last year and now they just trade him? Odd.

Post #5 » by **kingofthecourt67** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:58 am

Can anyone tell me about the two the Reds got?

SportsWorld · Post #6 » by **SportsWorld** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:08 am

Edinson Volquez
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... quez.shtml

Danny Herrera
Looks solid.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... rera.shtml

Ayt · Post #7 » by **Ayt** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:11 am

Is Herrera really 5-8, 145?

SportsWorld · Post #8 » by **SportsWorld** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:59 am

Ayt wrote:Is Herrera really 5-8, 145?

No real good pics of him.

Post #9 » by **kingofthecourt67** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:10 am

Actually, Volquez appears to have been the Rangers number one pitching prospect. He can throw as fast as 97 with a sweeping curve. And Herrera has some screwball pitch to offset his lack of power. Sounds like a solid deal for the Reds IMO. I just hope this isn't something that leads to the trading of Bailey for Bedard. Krivsky, don't trade anymore young guys please.

Monkeyfeng06 · Post #10 » by **Monkeyfeng06** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:32 am

why? hamilton was awesome last year..

A.J. · Post #11 » by **A.J.** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:46 am

Ayt wrote:Is Herrera really 5-8, 145?

damn, we the same height, lol

SportsWorld · Post #12 » by **SportsWorld** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:49 am

Monkeyfeng06 wrote:why? hamilton was awesome last year..

Because they want new young pitchers for Dusty Baker to overuse.

Post #13 » by **Bleeding Green** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:56 am

Herrera is **** awesome. 5'8" of screwball, groundball fun. Who cares if he throws 86. He gets guys out.

50 bucks says he has a better career than Volquez. Volquez blows.

Sweet as hell trade for the Rangers.

Post #14 » by **studcrackers** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:49 am

supposedly herrera is closer to 5"4 than 5"8

as for my thoughts, its tough to say, he's had control problems his whole career but it looks like he's finally starting to figure things out. but for every guy that figures out his control problems you'll get guys like daniel cabrera or robinson tejeda or joaquin benoit (granted he's solid now but not as a starter) but he's got a filthy changeup, and i dont think he's our best P prospect but of the guys in the higher levels he's got the highest ceiling.

i dont think volquez blows and wouldve liked to have seen him grow but he could very well fizzle out, this is a wait and see type of deal.

who knows if hamilton returns to his drug habit or can even stay healthy over the course of a season. but our OF is worse than our pitching right now and this is probably the first time in forever that we have pitchers that are expendable. i love what jon daniels is doing to our farm system, keith law says it could possibly be 2nd in the league.

treyZz · Post #15 » by **treyZz** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:05 am

Josh Hamilton is a pimp.

Post #16 » by **PhilipNelsonFan** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:53 am

I'm counting down the days until Texas starts nine men without a pitcher in the field. Should be any year now.

Volquez sucks but he gives you one good start for every seven horrible ones.

Post #17 » by **kingofthecourt67** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:10 am

Volquez hasn't even pitched one full season and is 24 years old. I don't know how you can say he sucks. I have not seen him but he can't be named the best pitching prospect of a team for no reason.

trwi7 · Post #18 » by **trwi7** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:43 am

studcrackers wrote:supposedly herrera is closer to 5"4 than 5"8

Starring Danny Herrera as Mini-Me and Prince Fielder as Fat Bastard.

kingofthecourt67 wrote:I don't know how you can say he sucks.

He walked 5.37 per 9 innings in AAA this year.

oakfanintheeast · Post #19 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:29 pm

kingofthecourt67 wrote:Volquez hasn't even pitched one full season and is 24 years old. I don't know how you can say he sucks. I have not seen him but he can't be named the best pitching prospect of a team for no reason.

great stuff, terrible control. at the age where he should have gotten better. gives up tons of Hrs and it wont be better in that park either.

bigboy1234 · Post #20 » by **bigboy1234** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:25 am

trwi7 wrote:He walked 5.37 per 9 innings in AAA this year.

Uh, no he didn't. And he absolutely dominated AAA this year.

PhilipNelsonFan wrote:Volquez sucks but he gives you one good start for every seven horrible ones.

LOL

Bleeding Green wrote:Volquez blows.

LAWL