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Prior to the Padres

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:19 pm
by SportsWorld
Rotowire:
Padres agreed to terms with RHP Mark Prior, who had been with the Cubs, on a one-year contract.
Prior is hoping to return from shoulder surgery before the end of May, though even without any setbacks, it'd be no surprise to see his comeback put off until after the All-Star break. He's a long shot to make a major contribution in 2008, but he's a better sleeper in San Diego than he would have been anywhere else.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:08 pm
by A.J.
no!!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:12 pm
by SportsWorld
A.J. wrote:no!!

Did you read the article? He may not be back until after the All Star Break which is probably why you didn't make a bigger push for him. You are better off signing a terrible pitcher who will get more done in 2008 than Prior.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:01 pm
by A.J.
SportsWorld wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Did you read the article? He may not be back until after the All Star Break which is probably why you didn't make a bigger push for him. You are better off signing a terrible pitcher who will get more done in 2008 than Prior.


i was actually saying no from a padres perpsective, lol

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:44 pm
by 2poor
good riddance.

oh, and beware of Marcus Giles.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:07 am
by SportsWorld
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:28 am
by Da Schwab
I actually think this is a good move for him. He needed a change of scenery (maybe getting out of Chicago will change his luck) and he gets to pitch with Greg Maddux again, which may help his morale.

I'm hoping he can get healthy and stay that way.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:38 am
by Chach
The Marcus Giles incident did not ruin Prior's career. It was Dusty abusing him and Wood and then the inability for the medical staff to diagnose his injury. He finally got his shoulder cleaned out and while I expect for his velocity to dip down a bit, he could still have a productive, albeit less then all star caliber, career. mahalo
~Chach~

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:55 am
by HMFFL
Chach wrote:The Marcus Giles incident did not ruin Prior's career. It was Dusty abusing him and Wood and then the inability for the medical staff to diagnose his injury. He finally got his shoulder cleaned out and while I expect for his velocity to dip down a bit, he could still have a productive, albeit less then all star caliber, career. mahalo
~Chach~


Well said.

I wish him the best of luck and hope he's able to become healthy at some point during the upcoming season. I would truly like to see Mark find some success.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:09 am
by a-rod
i think the cubs gonna regret letting him go.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:10 am
by SportsWorld
a-rod wrote:i think the cubs gonna regret letting him go.

Doubt it but okay

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:03 am
by A.J.
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damn, i forgot all about that.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:04 pm
by 2poor
I wasn't insinuating that the Giles incident had anything to do with the downfall of his career. I was just making a crack at the fact that he's now teammates with Marcus (and Brian).

I doubt the Cubs will regret letting him go. Farm system is consistently loaded with good young arms...position players is a different story.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:21 pm
by GYBE
a-rod wrote:i think the cubs gonna regret letting him go.


Cubs didn't "let him go." They offered a better contract than the Padres did, he just wanted to get the hell out of Chicago.

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:38 pm
by bigboy1234
GYBE wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Cubs didn't "let him go." They offered a better contract than the Padres did, he just wanted to get the hell out of Chicago.

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What contract did they offer him?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:38 pm
by GYBE
Cubs were prepared to offer a base salary of just over $3 million for next season, provided he agreed to an incentive-laden second year.

Hendry wanted to lock him up, his agent made it clear they weren't going to consider any offer from the Cubs so they let him go. It's not like they didn't try, that's all.

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:42 pm
by TSC25
I think it's a great pickup for the Padres,if he's healthy and can pitch close to what he was great,and if not,then it's only a one year deal.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:37 am
by bigboy1234
GYBE wrote:Cubs were prepared to offer a base salary of just over $3 million for next season, provided he agreed to an incentive-laden second year.

Hendry wanted to lock him up, his agent made it clear they weren't going to consider any offer from the Cubs so they let him go. It's not like they didn't try, that's all.

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Why did they non-tender him if they wanted to keep him, it wouldn't have been for much more than 3M anyways.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:47 am
by SportsWorld
I don't understand why we couldn't have just traded him to the American League for a PTBNL. Then we would have at least gotten something for him and controlled where he went.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:20 pm
by GYBE
bigboy1234 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Why did they non-tender him if they wanted to keep him, it wouldn't have been for much more than 3M anyways.


The CBA mandated Prior would've had to make at least $3.5 million this upcoming season through arbitration. Prior would only sign a one-year deal with the Cubs. The team didn't want to overpay him for this year (since he's not due back for some time) only to have him leave at the end of the year. They were willing to give him the $3.5 million, but only if he was signed through 2009 in case he came back strong.

If they offered arbitration, he would've accepted. But giving him arbitration meant he would use the last two months of the season as a tryout for other teams for a bigger contract. The Cubs would get virtually no return for their money and would have no chance of re-signing him. So what's the point?

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