SHOULD ROGER OR BARRY GET INTO THE HOF?

Yankee · Post #1 » by **Yankee** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:42 am

they both should be banned

James_Dolan · Post #2 » by **James_Dolan** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:48 am

If they're both found guilty, no. If they're not, they'll get voted in. I still think they did stuff regardless but we'll see.

Post #3 » by **Bleeding Green** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:49 am

Yes, both of them. I imagine neither one will get in though. This is the same Hall of Fame that has kept Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame.

wigglestrue · Post #4 » by **wigglestrue** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 4:02 am

Yes, of course they should be inducted.

Post #5 » by **Schad** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:39 am

Yes, but I wouldn't mind if it took two ballots.

a-rod · Post #6 » by **a-rod** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 8:30 am

Frankly I'm not sure because on One hand they were part of the era, but on the other hand athletes should be be role models, and make choses in their careers regardless.

James_Dolan · Post #7 » by **James_Dolan** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 9:51 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Yes, both of them. I imagine neither one will get in though. This is the same Hall of Fame that has kept Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame.

Pete Rose betting on games and Bonds/Clemens cheating to get their stats is the same thing?

Post #8 » by **Da Schwab** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:44 pm

They should both get in, no doubt. Anyone who says otherwise is a complete imbeclie.

Post #9 » by **lpsevier** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 5:05 pm

They should create their own hall of fame - like Planet Hollywood.

VinnyTheMick · Post #10 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 5:30 pm

They definitely should get in. I'm in the Buster Olney/Tim Kurkjian camp where it is assumed that EVERYONE was on the stuff & the best of the era should get in the hall.

Posey H8er · Post #11 » by **Posey H8er** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:21 pm

James_Dolan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pete Rose betting on games and Bonds/Clemens cheating to get their stats is the same thing?

He never said they were. It's debatable to say which was worse.

Both players should be in the Hall of Fame, regardless of what happens in the coming months or years.

CITYOFANGELSX3 · Post #12 » by **CITYOFANGELSX3** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 10:08 pm

Both players should never be in the hall of fame. We all know they cheated. There on the same level as pete rose. Maybe even worse. Hell No, never.

High 5 · Post #13 » by **High 5** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 10:38 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Yes, both of them. I imagine neither one will get in though. This is the same Hall of Fame that has kept Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame.

Agreed. They weren't the only cheaters, just the best.

mets87 · Post #14 » by **mets87** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 6:23 am

voted both

Post #15 » by **Bleeding Green** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 6:31 am

James_Dolan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pete Rose betting on games and Bonds/Clemens cheating to get their stats is the same thing?

I'm not comparing various levels of cheating, just pointing out that the Hall of Fame voters as a whole are less than useful.

Post #16 » by **PhilipNelsonFan** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 10:42 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Yes, both of them. I imagine neither one will get in though. This is the same Hall of Fame that has kept Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame.

I thought that there was a ban from the commissioner's office clearly stating that Pete Rose is ineligible. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yankee · Post #17 » by **Yankee** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 3:35 pm

this steroid era is really ruining "america's pastime"

Post #18 » by **sunshinekids99** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 3:42 pm

I wouldn't vote for either of the guys. HOF resumes or not, they cheated they got caught. I also have a pet peeve of the argument that they were HOF players before they started using. It's too bad both had to use roids/HGH to extend their careers.

High 5 · Post #19 » by **High 5** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 4:42 pm

Yankee wrote:this steroid era is really ruining "america's pastime"

If anything steroids have made baseball somewhat relevant again. It's still a bore to most non-hardcore fans.

Post #20 » by **HMFFL** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 6:45 pm

I must be honest. I need to see Mark McGwire get inducted before Roger and Barry. Roger was once my all time favorite pitcher, however that's changed now, and I don't like the way he conducts himself on or off the field.

For the time being I don't want Barry or Roger part of the HOF.