Manny and Ortiz test positive in '03

Wade2k6 · Post #1 » by **Wade2k6** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:38 pm

As the title says, Ortiz and Manny test positive for performance enhancing drugs back in '03.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4366335

:nonono:

Post #2 » by **dockingsched** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:50 pm

strip those world series titles asap

Post #3 » by **Flash3** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:59 pm

ortiz got on his high horse in the off-season and now he;s going to eat his words.

now we know why he's become as good as juan uribe

Post #4 » by **HCYanks** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:11 pm

Bill Simmons suicide note/article arriving in 5...4...3...2...

Post #5 » by **lpsevier** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:14 pm

Once again, not a surprise at all.

The only ounce of surprise I'm reserving for anyone is Pujols, but even that wouldn't be a shocker.

livestrong4ever · Post #6 » by **livestrong4ever** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:21 pm

lpsevier wrote:Once again, not a surprise at all.

The only ounce of surprise I'm reserving for anyone is Pujols, but even that wouldn't be a shocker.

Prince Fielder, is fat. He don't need no roids.

Post #7 » by **Da Schwab** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:39 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:
lpsevier wrote:Once again, not a surprise at all.

The only ounce of surprise I'm reserving for anyone is Pujols, but even that wouldn't be a shocker.

Prince Fielder, is fat. He don't need no roids.

Mo Vaughn wasn't exactly Mr. Universe and he juiced, I wouldn't count Prince out by a long shot.

As for Ortiz, I don't know why anyone would be shocked about this. I'm just happy this came out so Sawx fans can shut their trap about A-Rod for a couple of weeks.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #8 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:44 pm

Just release all of the names once and for all so we can stop hearing about this crap every other week. We all know that none of the names would be remotely surprising anyways.

Post #9 » by **wetsthebed** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:47 pm

*Shocking*

Duh.

wigglestrue · Post #10 » by **wigglestrue** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:59 pm

A little surprised given how anti-steroids Ortiz has been publicly.

Then again, who cares. One word: Amphetamines.

IbreakNeckZ101 · Post #11 » by **IbreakNeckZ101** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:04 pm

world series titles should be removed from the red sox

mr_sunshine · Post #12 » by **mr_sunshine** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:25 pm

IbreakNeckZ101 wrote:world series titles should be removed from the red sox

I'm sure every team had at least one player who used some sort of PED. Might as well just make MLB disappear.

Post #13 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:30 pm

IbreakNeckZ101 wrote:world series titles should be removed from the red sox

dcash4 wrote:strip those world series titles asap

Chill on the name calling. -HC

It wasn't expected. But it's not surprising. Release the other names though, I wanna see the other guys to test positive.

nitetrain8603 · Post #14 » by **nitetrain8603** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:45 pm

Only thing I hate is how ESPN is trying to turn it into, everyone juiced that year instead of concentrating on Manny or David. This wasn't some Jim Parque type of juicing where they were struggling to survive. This was the two best players on their respective teams juicing up. For shame.

Dr Positivity · Post #15 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:46 pm

Me thinks Ryan Howard is next. Both his build and the year where he had like 58 homers with like 20 games left just screams juice

I'm guessing Pujols and Fielder are clean for now just because of how they're performing this year, I think you'd need some serious undetectable juice to get away with using now, after all this

nitetrain8603 · Post #16 » by **nitetrain8603** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:53 pm

I don't think Ryan Howard is one. He's more of an old school hitter who cranks it up for power, but his average suffers and when he misses, he whiffs and strikes out a ton. Just kinda like a Carlos Pena.

Honestly, Pujols wouldn't surprise me.

Post #17 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:56 pm

I don't think it will be anyone big. I mean, you had A-rod go first. Now the dominican duo. It's just gonna go smaller and smaller. Why would they release pujols name last?

Post #18 » by **MHZ** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:56 pm

lpsevier wrote:Once again, not a surprise at all.

The only ounce of surprise I'm reserving for anyone is Pujols, but even that wouldn't be a shocker.

I'll be shocked if he isn't on the list. Everybody else's numbers are the result of PED's, but Pujols's mind blowing numbers are natural? Hard to believe.

It's kind of like people who know that cycling is the dirtiest sport on the planet, and anybody finishing anywhere respectable in the Tour de France is doping somehow, but honestly believe that clean little boy scout Lance Armstrong can win seven in a row over all the cheaters.

wigglestrue · Post #19 » by **wigglestrue** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:57 pm

I'm guessing Pujols and Fielder are clean for now just because of how they're performing this year, I think you'd need some serious undetectable juice to get away with using now, after all this

Yeah, it's called human growth hormone. Untested = undetectable.

Post #20 » by **BlackMamba** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:02 pm

well, what disappoints me is that they don't reveal the whole list.