Is Lamar purposely not going to play?

[Dr Positivity]

Is there any chance of a blockbuster QB for QB type trade to win now team?

eg.

Jackson for Rodgers. Green Bay the ones saying no?

Jackson for Cousins

[makubesu]

someone will pay him, he puts butt on the seats

Or at least one butt on the bench

[Papi_swav]

Ravens can trade and get all kinds of assets back.

But that would require them to throw away a season or two to get a new QB in place, producing.

I don't know their cap situation but if they have a lot of other big contracts, they can't waste seasons to get and develop a new QB.

NFL teams get stupid amounts of TV money. Probably profitable alone from TV rights. Then if they do well in selling tickets, PSLs and luxury boxes, they're just missing big money.

How much are they quibbling over anyways? If Ravens were wiling to offer only $150 million and Lama wanted like $250 million guaranteed, that's a big gulf.

However, it's not impossible for the Ravens. Even if they never win the SB during that contract and at the end, it hampers the team, the cap will be so much higher 5 years from now that they will be okay.

They gave Roquan Smith a $100 million, though I think only like $60 million guaranteed. If they have some other big contracts in the $100 million range, they can't afford to be without a top 15 QB, otherwise they're paying high salaries without a chance to win.

Pretty much what you said. I believe Lamar turned down a 250M deal with like 180 guaranteed before the season I believe, something around that. But he wants that Deshaun Watson deal but he doesn't realize that that's just the Browns browning and I don't think any other team would do a deal like that.

Ravens gave left tackle Ronnie Stanley 100 million like 2 years ago and also gave cornerback Marlon Humphrey close to 100 million and they just signed Roquan to that deal so they're kinda in win now mode. What I think ultimately happens is they franchise Lamar and trade him for a bunch of assets and try to get a veteran QB for now. The defense is pretty much set with few holes but offense really needs a top WR in the worst way.

[JujitsuFlip]

Ravens can trade and get all kinds of assets back.

But that would require them to throw away a season or two to get a new QB in place, producing.

I don't know their cap situation but if they have a lot of other big contracts, they can't waste seasons to get and develop a new QB.

NFL teams get stupid amounts of TV money. Probably profitable alone from TV rights. Then if they do well in selling tickets, PSLs and luxury boxes, they're just missing big money.

How much are they quibbling over anyways? If Ravens were wiling to offer only $150 million and Lama wanted like $250 million guaranteed, that's a big gulf.

However, it's not impossible for the Ravens. Even if they never win the SB during that contract and at the end, it hampers the team, the cap will be so much higher 5 years from now that they will be okay.

They gave Roquan Smith a $100 million, though I think only like $60 million guaranteed. If they have some other big contracts in the $100 million range, they can't afford to be without a top 15 QB, otherwise they're paying high salaries without a chance to win.

Pretty much what you said. I believe Lamar turned down a 250M deal with like 180 guaranteed before the season I believe, something around that. But he wants that Deshaun Watson deal but he doesn't realize that that's just the Browns browning and I don't think any other team would do a deal like that.

Ravens gave left tackle Ronnie Stanley 100 million like 2 years ago and also gave cornerback Marlon Humphrey close to 100 million and they just signed Roquan to that deal so they're kinda in win now mode. What I think ultimately happens is they franchise Lamar and trade him for a bunch of assets and try to get a veteran QB for now. The defense is pretty much set with few holes but offense really needs a top WR in the worst way.

At $45 million who is taking LaMar on? Idk who can afford him and do the Ravens have to eat some of that? Not sure how guys being traded on tags works, financially.

[Papi_swav]

Ravens can trade and get all kinds of assets back.

But that would require them to throw away a season or two to get a new QB in place, producing.

I don't know their cap situation but if they have a lot of other big contracts, they can't waste seasons to get and develop a new QB.

NFL teams get stupid amounts of TV money. Probably profitable alone from TV rights. Then if they do well in selling tickets, PSLs and luxury boxes, they're just missing big money.

How much are they quibbling over anyways? If Ravens were wiling to offer only $150 million and Lama wanted like $250 million guaranteed, that's a big gulf.

However, it's not impossible for the Ravens. Even if they never win the SB during that contract and at the end, it hampers the team, the cap will be so much higher 5 years from now that they will be okay.

They gave Roquan Smith a $100 million, though I think only like $60 million guaranteed. If they have some other big contracts in the $100 million range, they can't afford to be without a top 15 QB, otherwise they're paying high salaries without a chance to win.

Pretty much what you said. I believe Lamar turned down a 250M deal with like 180 guaranteed before the season I believe, something around that. But he wants that Deshaun Watson deal but he doesn't realize that that's just the Browns browning and I don't think any other team would do a deal like that.

Ravens gave left tackle Ronnie Stanley 100 million like 2 years ago and also gave cornerback Marlon Humphrey close to 100 million and they just signed Roquan to that deal so they're kinda in win now mode. What I think ultimately happens is they franchise Lamar and trade him for a bunch of assets and try to get a veteran QB for now. The defense is pretty much set with few holes but offense really needs a top WR in the worst way.

At $45 million who is taking LaMar on? Idk who can afford him and do the Ravens have to eat some of that? Not sure how guys being traded on tags works, financially.

Several teams will take on that 45M easily. Teams will certainly make cap room for Lamar I'm pretty sure about that especially Qb needy teams. Jets, Falcons, Texans, Titans , Raiders, Redskins, Bucs and Miami has been rumored to be in on Lamar. It's all going to come down to who gives up the best assets and who will give him an extension when traded. That's if the Ravens don't re sign him.

[wco81]

If they tag Lamar, teams would have to give the Ravens at least 2 FRPs.

Maybe other teams wouldn't think Lamar is worth $200 million or whatever he's seeking.

Ravens may not want to pay it, especially guarantee all of it. However they're kind of stuck, they built the offense and a certain amount of the roster around Lamar.

So if they move on from him, besides looking for another franchise QB, they might need to change other personnel.

[El Turco]

i think you can adapt a great oline, runningbacks and a tight end to any offense. they already got rid of greg roman, with a free agent/rookie reciever or two, new coordinator can easily build an offense that can fit any veteran qb.

get two first rounders for lamar, maybe use one of them for a disgruntled receiver like hopkins and draft another one. veteran wr/jordan addison/rashard bateman/mark andrews/jk dobbins + great oline+ capable qb is more than enough to be a superbowl contender with an elite defense. that is like poor man's niners team without the genius playcalling.

[wco81]

Maybe sign a vet QB like Carr since they're still looking to compete with big contracts on the roster. Or Jimmy G.

Otherwise, other QBs ready to play now for at least a playoffs team is likely going to require trades for assets.

Then you have to pay that QB, probably at least $30 million a year, so the savings over Lamar may not be as great as one might think.