Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal)

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Post#41 » by Elway=GOAT » Thu Oct 7, 2010 8:44 pm

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They only gave a 4th for him so it's not like they lost anything. Bill can switch out players at will in most cases; I don't see it being any different. If Welker is doubled, they have other options.


They lost their chance at a Super Bowl. The Patriots are great at reloading, but they have no one that's going to beat Revis downfield and make a spectacular one-handed catch in the back of the endzone. They're going to need plays like that to make it out of the AFC.


What did that one handed catch get them, an extra highlight on sports center? Im skeptical about the move myself. However, this is a team that one 3 superbowl without a player like Moss, and the offense was of similar model to what they have now. They didnt have big guys who stretched the field. They played the dink and dunk most of the time. Brady can run it to perfection and can work with these players.

They played conservative football, and won with a combination of offense, defense and special teams. Maybe BB is going for a model like that, in hopes that the defense gets progressivly better(which they should, being as young as they are) through the season.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#42 » by YouAreBeneathMe » Thu Oct 7, 2010 9:01 pm

As a Pats fan I don't like the deal, but I think Moss may have been too much of a headcase here. I don't think the Patriots wanted to get rid of someone of his talent.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#43 » by Jaruff » Thu Oct 7, 2010 9:54 pm

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What did that one handed catch get them, an extra highlight on sports center? Im skeptical about the move myself. However, this is a team that one 3 superbowl without a player like Moss, and the offense was of similar model to what they have now. They didnt have big guys who stretched the field. They played the dink and dunk most of the time. Brady can run it to perfection and can work with these players.

They played conservative football, and won with a combination of offense, defense and special teams. Maybe BB is going for a model like that, in hopes that the defense gets progressivly better(which they should, being as young as they are) through the season.


Exactly. Think of some of the receivers they've had on the SB teams; Deion Branch, David Patten, Troy Brown, Terry Glenn, etc. Good to great receivers, yes, but no Randy Moss. They don't need someone like Moss, especially if he's going to cause problems. BB is probably the best coach in the league at interchanging players (IMO, Mike Shanahan and him take the cake on that). Patriots will be fine; they know what they're doing.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#44 » by High 5 » Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:10 pm

Elway=GOAT wrote:What did that one handed catch get them, an extra highlight on sports center? Im skeptical about the move myself. However, this is a team that one 3 superbowl without a player like Moss, and the offense was of similar model to what they have now. They didnt have big guys who stretched the field. They played the dink and dunk most of the time. Brady can run it to perfection and can work with these players.

They played conservative football, and won with a combination of offense, defense and special teams. Maybe BB is going for a model like that, in hopes that the defense gets progressivly better(which they should, being as young as they are) through the season.


That catch didn't win them the game, but they would have been worse off without it. They need plays like that to get past New York, Baltimore, or Pittsburgh in the playoffs. These are different Patriots and different opponents from those Super Bowl years. They don't have a defense they can rely on.

The Patriots will be better off in the long run without Moss, but not this year.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#46 » by greenbeans » Fri Oct 8, 2010 4:43 am

This move is just saving brady from brady as weird as it sounds. He'll start looking at the left half of the field hopefully.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#47 » by Zeitgeister » Fri Oct 8, 2010 2:58 pm

Bill Belichick went out of his way after the trade went through to reiterate that Moss was never a problem. He said they never had a conversation on the plane. It's easy to just revert to the argument that Moss was causing problems in the locker room but according to Bill it was blown way out of proportion.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#48 » by Worm Guts » Fri Oct 8, 2010 8:07 pm

Bill Belichek is a liar.
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Post#49 » by Zeitgeister » Fri Oct 8, 2010 9:09 pm

Worm Guts wrote:Bill Belichek is a liar.


In your opinion.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#50 » by Elway=GOAT » Fri Oct 8, 2010 11:14 pm

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Worm Guts wrote:Bill Belichek is a liar.


In your opinion.


It is alittle fishy that they trade a guy, who wasnt a problem, wasnt being a cancer(which hes be accused of before) and that he has been a good and model player. It sounds like bull to me, and they are trying to push it under the rug. If Moss came out and said those things publicly at the start of the season, imagin what was going on behind the scense.
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Post#51 » by sunshinekids99 » Sat Oct 9, 2010 12:04 am

What good does it do for BB to say how bad of a guy Moss was in NWE? He took the classy way out and said how great it was to coach him.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#52 » by Zeitgeister » Sat Oct 9, 2010 12:24 am

Elway=GOAT wrote:
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Worm Guts wrote:Bill Belichek is a liar.


In your opinion.


It is alittle fishy that they trade a guy, who wasnt a problem, wasnt being a cancer(which hes be accused of before) and that he has been a good and model player. It sounds like bull to me, and they are trying to push it under the rug. If Moss came out and said those things publicly at the start of the season, imagin what was going on behind the scense.


I don't know, but it seemed to make sense when looking at what New England has done in the past. They have traded away impact players in the past (of course not of Moss's caliber but still) and I think they know that they've been successful without Moss and they think they can be again. They are stock piling up on draft picks because they are in a bit of a rebuilding phase.

For Moss, he probably was upset because he's entering a contract year and he's done a lot for that team but he knew they didn't have any desire to resign him. He needs to put up good numbers if he wants to be signed on to another good team somewhere else and that wasn't happening this year.

Moss probably was disgruntled to a degree, I mean he did make some things public but according to Bill he's been very respectful throughout his tenure there. In Minnesota he only had some minor quibbles. There were things he said that were blown out of proportion. He certainly mailed it in with the Raiders though.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#53 » by Geddy » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:48 pm

Moss and Brady had a fight over hair?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huRM_fx9m0s[/youtube]

Brady seems to have thrown the 'shave your beard' card first so I don't see why Moss is the one on the headlines for that issue.
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Re: Minnesota Acquires Randy Moss (Done Deal) 

Post#54 » by Celtics_Champs » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:37 am

Blow this out of porportion some more, media. Let's all forget that Randy Moss went to Brady's house in Boston, to say goodbye and thank you to his face.

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