OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History

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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#41 » by thewhat » Sat Mar 3, 2012 9:47 am

Blame Rasho wrote:Ali/Liston II... The entire fight was fixed, seriously... having a fight in Maine, with no TV and Liston later admitting that he took a dive... pure and **** but everyone circlejerks Ali and forgets this...


Take away Liston from Ali's resume and he is still the greatest of all time.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#42 » by CROSS+ » Sat Mar 3, 2012 10:53 am

I think the match fixing scandals in italy and germany, that led to traditional clubs being relegated, players, officials and referees being jailed.

This is the list of punishments being handed out:

Luciano Moggi: life ban from football and a recommendation to the FIGC president that he be banned for life from membership of the FIGC at any level.

Antonio Giraudo: Fined €20,000, five year ban from football, three years jail, and a recommendation to the FIGC president that he be banned for life from membership of the FIGC at any level.

Paolo Dondarini: Two years jail.
Tullio Lanese: Two years jail and 2½ year ban from football.
Innocenzo Mazzini: Five year ban from football.
Massimo De Santis: Four year ban from football.
Diego Della Valle: 3 year 9 month ban from football.
Pierluigi Pairetto: 3½ year ban from football.
Andrea Della Valle: Three year ban from football.
Pasquale Foti: 2½ year ban from football and fined €30,000.
Claudio Lotito: 2½ year ban from football.
Leonardo Meani: 2½ year ban from football.
Fabrizio Babini: 12 month ban from football.
Gennaro Mazzei: 12 month ban from football.
Adriano Galliani: Five month ban from football.
Gianluca Paparesta: Five month ban from football.
Claudio Puglisi: Three month ban from football.
Franco Carraro: Fined €80,000.
Pietro Ingargiola: Given a warning.


An NFL scandal could never the biggest in sport history, because globally nobody cares about the NFL.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#43 » by yaaar » Sat Mar 3, 2012 11:25 am

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C-izMe wrote:They do make money from hitting but literately putting 50k on Favre's career (at that point) is crazy.

I started this post mainly because my friend said he though the Donoghue thing was bigger.


i think your friend is right. this sounds like giving the players extra motivation to hit hard (not that i'm condoning it) but in donaghy's case, games were actually decided by the refs giving lopsided calls in favor of one team. i don't recall the saints putting a game ending hit on anyone in the 2009 nfc championship game and super bowl. and they didn't win anything in 2010 and 2011 so does it really matter for those particular seasons? note i'm not actually supporting what the saints did, i just don't see this as that big of a deal, at least compared to the tim donaghy scandal.


Didn't Donaghy only admit to affecting prop bets? Like over/under total fouls? Most of the other stuff was pretty vague or he wasn't actually involved with. Stuff like the refs standing around saying "well we know who the league want's to win." Yeah, they would know who the league wants to win.
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Re: A Little OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#44 » by hourockman » Sat Mar 3, 2012 11:32 am

Wone wrote:can you elaborate or post a link or something?


Lol. Gotta love the random "voices in my head" threads here.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#45 » by UcanUwill » Sat Mar 3, 2012 12:43 pm

I dont know, I am not a Soccer fan, but its scandals tops it for sure just because its so much more popular around the globe. For example Juventus scandal, that was HUGE, Even the idea of Juventus playing in Serie B is just mind blowing.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#46 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Mar 3, 2012 4:45 pm

thewhat wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Ali/Liston II... The entire fight was fixed, seriously... having a fight in Maine, with no TV and Liston later admitting that he took a dive... pure and **** but everyone circlejerks Ali and forgets this...


Take away Liston from Ali's resume and he is still the greatest of all time.


No he isn't, anyone with half a brain knows that Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest but I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't follow the sport to acknowledge this, esp when Ali himself said so.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#47 » by Sofa King » Sat Mar 3, 2012 5:01 pm

USC scandal comes into mind. It rocked the program and the athletic program with firings.

Kobe's sex scandal since someone posted Tiger Wood's picture.

Pete Rose betting on games.

I think Penn State and Sandusky was one of the worse. Really ruined Joe Pa. :(
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#48 » by OrlChamps2030 » Sat Mar 3, 2012 5:03 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:
thewhat wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Ali/Liston II... The entire fight was fixed, seriously... having a fight in Maine, with no TV and Liston later admitting that he took a dive... pure and **** but everyone circlejerks Ali and forgets this...


Take away Liston from Ali's resume and he is still the greatest of all time.


No he isn't, anyone with half a brain knows that Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest but I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't follow the sport to acknowledge this, esp when Ali himself said so.


Thats odd..because literally YESTERDAY Floyd Mayweather said Ali is the greatest. Verbatim what you said Ali is not.

Don't worry though, I don't think Floyd follows the sport of boxing though. :lol:


But back on topic


No mention of SMU death sentence in the 80's??
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#49 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Mar 3, 2012 5:18 pm

I hate talking to people who don't know what they are talking about...like yourself. Floyd is a clown, perhaps the greatest talent in a generations but talks out of his ass with constant regularity. The AP, the Ring, ESPN, and fellow HOF fights today and of his era say he wasn't. Being Famous doesn't mean you are the best.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#50 » by ManualRam » Sat Mar 3, 2012 5:21 pm

this scandal is being blown way out of proportion.
the nfl is a violent sport. bounty or no bounty, players are going to try to make big hits and physically hurt the opposition.
the only thing remotely scandalous to me is that they were basically giving players off-the-books bonuses.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#51 » by P.D.B.E. » Sat Mar 3, 2012 5:38 pm

It is a pleasure for me to inform you that history commonly known as related to the so-called "Calciopoli" scandal is far from being cleared. In spite of the fact that only Juventus was relegated, putting into risk even its very destiny, being forced to sell to its greatest competitors the best players Juventus had (Ibrahimovic, Vieira, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Thuram...) and receiving the blame of a whole nation, with the exception of its faithful fans, current evidences carry a set of solutions that differ a lot from the one regularly declared by italian information, that is totally biased against Juventus. Evidences show above any doubt that other teams had the same if not worse behaviour than Juventus people, but did not receive any inquiry, receiving strenght from the fact that many of the selling leading newspapers set the popular belief to their will, that was to punish the strongest italian team and finding a fake answer for decades of defeats.
It is not my intention to hold a clinic about it, but I can suggest you some italian websites in which you will find unbiased and balanced quest for truth, what in Italy is absolutely missing. http://www.ju29ro.com/, www.uccellinodidelpiero.com

Hope you will find them interesting as millions of Juventus fans do.

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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#52 » by DEEP3CL » Sat Mar 3, 2012 5:53 pm

C-izMe wrote:This Gregg Williams thing has to be the biggest scandal in sports history. This brings the 2009 NFC Championship game into a new light and immediately should result in some lifetime bans and suspensions.

I believe this is the biggest sports scanda ever but what do you guys believe is the biggest sports scandal ever?
Trust me young buck this isn't no where near the biggest scandal ever. Bounty's are common in football, always have been and anybody who's watched the sport enough knows that. I knew a few guys who have played pro ball in the NFL, we talked about that stuff all the time.

This is no where close, not when you got a team throwing the World Series, point shaving in college and a bunch of other things that have happened.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#53 » by P.D.B.E. » Sun Mar 4, 2012 11:44 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:
C-izMe wrote:This Gregg Williams thing has to be the biggest scandal in sports history. This brings the 2009 NFC Championship game into a new light and immediately should result in some lifetime bans and suspensions.

I believe this is the biggest sports scanda ever but what do you guys believe is the biggest sports scandal ever?
Trust me young buck this isn't no where near the biggest scandal ever. Bounty's are common in football, always have been and anybody who's watched the sport enough knows that. I knew a few guys who have played pro ball in the NFL, we talked about that stuff all the time.

This is no where close, not when you got a team throwing the World Series, point shaving in college and a bunch of other things that have happened.


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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#54 » by Johnny Firpo » Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:44 am

Only one poster so far with the correct answer, It's the calciopoli, hands down.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#55 » by Blame Rasho » Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:46 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:Only one poster so far with the correct answer, It's the calciopoli, hands down.


The thing is that the majority of the posters are from the US, and don't give a crap about soccer.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#56 » by Narcist » Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:51 am

doesn't crack the top 100....no one cares teams do this all the time. What hyperbole from the orginal poster. This should be locked its not even basketball.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#57 » by SinJackal » Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:55 am

It's a scandal, but as a fan, you really can't be too taken aback by it. Would you want want that on your team? More incentive for doing stuff that impacts the games the most.


The whole, cash for forcing an opposing player out of the game on a stretcher, and a bonus $500 for knocking him unconscious is pretty morbid. . .but I have no problem with the other bounties for interceptions and that other stuff.

And even as far as the injuries thing goes. . .if any of you really thinks that players don't try to knock players out of the game (especially QBs), you're extremely naive. Happens constantly. It just seems a little weird when your coach asks you to do it. Regardless, it's something that hapens anyway with or without being told to.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#58 » by studcrackers » Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:43 am

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Smirk wrote:You have to be a Vikings fan because you are ridiculous. Almost every teams players do this.

There have already been stories on the Redskins, Titans and Ravens doing this. The media will make it a big story, but it's not. At all.

Eagles fan. I think it wouldn't be a big story if not for the emphasis on injuries now. In a league where you can get fined over a tenth over your salary and miss games because you hit people this should be heavily punished. 10 years ago I wouldn't say that but if Goddell keeps up to his standards this story could get way bigger.

And the coach for the Saints was the coach for the Skins when he Skins stories came out. He's been going 7 years doing this so he will get destroyed by Goddell.


if you're an eagles fan are you aware of the bounty bowl?
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#59 » by Icness » Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:13 pm

My top 5:
1. Black Sox of 1919
2. Alex Karras/Paul Hornung gambling scandal in the 60s. Two HOF players suspended a year.
3. SMU death penalty
4. NCAA point shaving in the early 50s, very nearly killed college basketball
5. JoePa/PSU fall from grace

I leave actual on-field stuff as less because they tend to be less premeditated.
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Re: OT: Biggest Scandals in Sports History 

Post#60 » by Johnny Firpo » Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:37 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:Only one poster so far with the correct answer, It's the calciopoli, hands down.


The thing is that the majority of the posters are from the US, and don't give a crap about soccer.


I know, still, what i wrote, now you know.

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