What Should Brady's Punishment Be?

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This is Tom Brady. And his response to criticism and naysayers.

[campybatman]

I concur. It's imperative for Brady to fight this to the end. If Mr. Kraft wants to be gutless, it doesn't mean that Brady has to follow suit. So I applaud Brady for at least standing his ground up to this point.

In my opinion, I don't blame Brady. If you know in your heart that you're telling the truth, then you stand up for yourself no matter what. Bleep the national media and fans and former NFL players that want to speak out against you because they're insecure and want the attention. Especially, in relation to Montana. Yeah, it's no coincidence that he's against Brady because Brady has essentially surpassed him in his career. It's a blow to your ego if you're Montana, so he has an agenda. That is, it works in his favor to discredit Brady.

Again, If Brady wants to fight the power in order to maintain his innocence. Then, that's his prerogative. And anti-Patriots people are nothing more than buzzards and vultures. But, the New England Patriots are no carcass. This season proved that to be true. So keep badmouthing the New England Patriots and their fans. It just shows what type of person that you're: Petty and jealousy. Why don't you expend this much energy and voice your opinions toward your own franchise's incompetence? Maybe, you won't express so much contempt for the New England Patriots and their fans. In other words, get your own house in order before you talk disparagingly about one franchise you obviously want to see fail. I loathe people like you. You always have to give your two cents.

While the court of public opinion can be cruel and bloodthirsty today, Brady’s on-field accolades will hold up for generations, and future football fans will read of Brady the way we look up George Blanda. If Brady gives up the fight, it naturally opens the door for critics to question Brady’s proclaimed innocence.

There is one problem, though. The NFL isn’t expected to announce the outcome of Brady’s appeal until late July, so if Brady’s recourse is through the court system, there’s no guarantee his case would be heard before the start of the regular season. As far as legal victories are concerned, Brady’s worst-case scenario might be a ceremonious reversal of his suspension, much like Adrian Peterson’s was overturned by a judge in February.

Similarly, a judge overturned Ray Rice’s indefinite suspension last year while citing Goodell’s “abuse of discretion.” The judge determined Goodell couldn’t turn Rice’s original two-game ban into a separate indefinite ban based on the release of the elevator video because the judge refused to cite that as new information.

And when four players were suspended in 2012 for their role in Bountygate, the Saints argued in federal court that Goodell overstepped his power to levy their suspensions, and a three-person panel unanimously agreed. Goodell temporarily lifted their suspensions before Paul Tagliabue, who was Goodell’s appointed arbitrator, permanently eradicated the bans.

Though each case is different from Brady’s, it’s clear the federal courts aren’t wary of humbling Goodell’s brandishing of power. Perhaps in a grander scope, Brady has a chance to reset the commissioner’s authority if he becomes the most high-profile player ever to challenge the league in court. Considering Brady was the named plaintiff on the players’ antitrust lawsuit against the NFL in 2011, this might be an intriguing route, particularly now that he should be even more motivated to scrap with the corner-office commanders of 345 Park Avenue.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patr ... il_the_end

[cl2117]

[ElGee]

What's so amazing about this story is how predicated on ignorance and misinformation it is. I think it's one of, if not, the most fascinating "sports" stories of my lifetime in that is entirely dependent on people's lack of knowledge in high school physics. And then it's one incredibly giant Dunning-Kruger experiment, in which people who don't know they don't know are telling people who know that they are wrong.

First, misinformation about 11 footballs under 10.5 PSI. (Literally, fabricated.)
Next, the backlash that balls naturally deflate due to physics. (They do.)
Now, no one wants to report that the balls behave as expected based on said physics. (They did...as measured at halftime.)

First no one understood physics. Now no one understands data analysis (Wells Report erred here and no mainstream news outlet or talking head has run the story yet). It's like people getting together in a room to celebrate Columbus for being wrong about the Earth being round.They don't know the end of the story yet...

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What's so amazing about this story is how predicated on ignorance and misinformation it is. I think it's one of, if not, the most fascinating "sports" stories of my lifetime in that is entirely dependent on people's lack of knowledge in high school physics. And then it's one incredibly giant Dunning-Kruger experiment, in which people who don't know they don't know are telling people who know that they are wrong.

First, misinformation about 11 footballs under 10.5 PSI. (Literally, fabricated.)
Next, the backlash that balls naturally deflate due to physics. (They do.)
Now, no one wants to report that the balls behave as expected based on said physics. (They did...as measured at halftime.)

First no one understood physics. Now no one understands data analysis (Wells Report erred here and no mainstream news outlet or talking head has run the story yet). It's like people getting together in a room to celebrate Columbus for being wrong about the Earth being round.They don't know the end of the story yet...

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[cl2117]

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[cl2117]

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Man, your taking it all wrong. Your getting all wired up for nothing. Im sayin, this is Tom Brady! Just watch the Video! Despite the world around him proclaiming him guilty! Despite the owner abandoning him! Despite his own coach sayin,"GO ASK TOM", as if to throw him under the bus!

Tom is walkin out COCK SURE just singin his own song to his own tune! Its an awesome video!

[truth18]

Man, your taking it all wrong. Your getting all wired up for nothing. Im sayin, this is Tom Brady! Just watch the Video! Despite the world around him proclaiming him guilty! Despite the owner abandoning him! Despite his own coach sayin,"GO ASK TOM", as if to throw him under the bus!

Tom is walkin out COCK SURE just singin his own song to his own tune! Its an awesome video!

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Man, your taking it all wrong. Your getting all wired up for nothing. Im sayin, this is Tom Brady! Just watch the Video! Despite the world around him proclaiming him guilty! Despite the owner abandoning him! Despite his own coach sayin,"GO ASK TOM", as if to throw him under the bus!

Tom is walkin out COCK SURE just singin his own song to his own tune! Its an awesome video!

EXACTLY! THATS IT! Unnecessary ramblings at this point in an 8 pg thread is wasteful. All the facts have been spoken! All arguments made. We don't need some guy named cl2117 getting all bunched up in the undergarments. It is what it is. Lets just have fun with it and move on.

[cl2117]

Man, your taking it all wrong. Your getting all wired up for nothing. Im sayin, this is Tom Brady! Just watch the Video! Despite the world around him proclaiming him guilty! Despite the owner abandoning him! Despite his own coach sayin,"GO ASK TOM", as if to throw him under the bus!

Tom is walkin out COCK SURE just singin his own song to his own tune! Its an awesome video!

EXACTLY! THATS IT! Unnecessary ramblings at this point in an 8 pg thread is wasteful. All the facts have been spoken! All arguments made. We don't need some guy named cl2117 getting all bunched up in the undergarments. It is what it is. Lets just have fun with it and move on.

[thizznation]

brady fans are very charming

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EXACTLY! THATS IT! Unnecessary ramblings at this point in an 8 pg thread is wasteful. All the facts have been spoken! All arguments made. We don't need some guy named cl2117 getting all bunched up in the undergarments. It is what it is. Lets just have fun with it and move on.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM[/youtube]

[cl2117]

EXACTLY! THATS IT! Unnecessary ramblings at this point in an 8 pg thread is wasteful. All the facts have been spoken! All arguments made. We don't need some guy named cl2117 getting all bunched up in the undergarments. It is what it is. Lets just have fun with it and move on.

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[campybatman]

Summary of Findings

The evidence we present points to a simple—and innocent—explanation for the change in pressure in the Patriots footballs. The Patriots balls were measured at the start of halftime, whereas the Colts balls were measured at the end of halftime, after sufficient time had passed for the balls to warm up and return to their pregame pressure. There is no need to consider the alternative hypothesis—that the Colts illegally inflated their footballs—because a simple physical explanation is available.

The fact that the average pressure of the Colts balls was significantly above the prediction of the Ideal Gas Law, while that of the Patriots balls was not, is inconsistent with the findings of the Wells report. Our conclusion that the warming of the balls during halftime is the key factor overlooked in the Wells report is supported by the observation that the readings of the intercepted Patriots football, measured separately from the other Patriots balls, came in almost precisely at the prediction of the law. Under the hypothesis asserted by the Well report, the odds of this Patriots ball matching the Ideal Gas Law prediction were between 1 out of 3 and 1 out of 300. It is therefore unlikely that the Patriots deflated the footballs.

https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... report.pdf

[therealbig3]

I'm a science guy. What can I say, I like silly things like "facts" and "logic" and "evidence".

So when all of the facts, logic, and evidence points to the Patriots NOT doing anything wrong, I'm gonna assume they didn't.