Browns, Bills, and Raiders

Celtsfan1980 · Post #1 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:19 pm

I'm a Browns fan. Father is a Browns fan. Brother is a Raiders fan. Other brother is a Bills fan. Which of these three losers do you like this season?

CentralQB5 · Post #2 » by **CentralQB5** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:44 pm

Bills plain and simple, they have offensive weapons and a defense that is talented and coached by Rex Ryan a defensive mastermind. I do think the future is bright for Oakland but they are still a few years away. The Browns are just the Browns sorry

CentralQB5 · Post #3 » by **CentralQB5** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:45 pm

I know the Browns have a strong defense but something just always goes wrong in Cleveland

Celtsfan1980 · Post #4 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:36 pm

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13136335/marcus-mariota-jameis-winston-real-nfl
Two Browns rookies get good praise in this. Xavier Cooper has had very good reviews, and Charles Gaines has had good reviews. Even McCown has had good reviews now that he may have a much better offensive line. I'm cautiously optimistic. I expect the Broncos to deteriorate. My heart tells me Cleveland but my brain says Oakland.

Higga · Post #5 » by **Higga** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:50 pm

Bills were my sleeper pick to make the playoffs last year. I really like their D, and adding McCoy with hopefully a healthy returning Watkins will give them something to build off on offense. And now they have a legit coach in Rex Ryan, I think they can surprise some people.

El Turco · Post #6 » by **El Turco** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:07 pm

ryan cant coach offense to save his life. this is raiders easily, they have the best qb among this bunch and some nice talent to surround him.

Post #7 » by **Icness** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:17 am

Buffalo is a top-5 team in terms of overall roster talent, but at QB they are no better than 30th. Still good enough to win 8-9 games. that D under Ryan has the potential to be great. They were already pretty darn good under Jim Schwartz last year.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #8 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:52 am

Celtsfan1980 wrote:I'm a Browns fan. Father is a Browns fan. Brother is a Raiders fan. Other brother is a Bills fan. Which of these three losers do you like this season?

Non of them. They're all inferior scrub teams playing in an inferior conference.

Revived · Post #9 » by **Revived** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:53 am

Browns. Bills with the likes of EJ Manuel and Matt Cassel doesn't do much for me.

I'll take Johnny football over those guys.

LAKESHOW · Post #10 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:58 am

RAIDERS. They've got a new coach. They've got the QB. Not known on the east coast, but the Raiders QB is a well known commodity on the west coast. Expect good year from RAIDERs

Celtsfan1980 · Post #11 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:40 am

People forget the Browns' offensive line was playing very well before Mack's injury last season. The running game and the offense got much worse after Mack's injury. The Browns have depth in some areas(especially defense) but not in offensive linemen. Injuries will be a key.

Higga · Post #12 » by **Higga** » Wed Jul 1, 2015 3:50 pm

El Turco wrote:ryan cant coach offense to save his life. this is raiders easily, they have the best qb among this bunch and some nice talent to surround him.

Ryan took teams with Mark freaking Sanchez at QB to the AFC Title game. He might have more talent on this Bills team on offense than he did with the Jets. And their D is nasty, especially up front.

Raiders have a nice young QB and WR but are still missing a lot of pieces, especially on D.

El Turco · Post #13 » by **El Turco** » Wed Jul 1, 2015 5:52 pm

You must not remember how they won their games on their afc runs, their offense was garbage