Week 5 Matchup Discussion and Games Thread

[studcrackers]

was up 37 in a ppr league tonight w/my opponent only having olsen, so of course he goes off today

[studcrackers]

watch them call that an incompletion

[bleu]

Holy ****, Derek Anderson is awful. We need Cam back, and now. And need to start shopping for a backup.

[OnceUponADime]

Damn Derek Anderson is an experienced vet making rookie mistakes.

[OnceUponADime]

Bucs have the worst kicker in the league and they drafted him in the 2nd round lmao.

[bleu]

Thank you, Roberto, and thank you Jason Licht for being a dumbass and taking a kicker in the second round.

[bwgood77]

As painful as this season has been for me as a Chargers fan with all the close losses and blown games. 4 losses by 14 points, 3 after leading at the 2 minute warning and 2 blowing a 2 score lead in the 4th, if Carolina loses this game, bleu, this has to be about as painful for you. Harder in the fact you probably had huge expectations (though I had pretty high hope and expectations SD would be good), but for me, the closer losses for the most part (4 close ones as opposed to 2 for you if you lose this one).

So I definitely understand how you will feel if they lose after probably expecting to easily win this one. They are looking pretty good to have a chance to win now though. If this was the Chargers they would get force the punt, fumble the punt return and it would get returned for a td.

[bwgood77]

Damn that facemask penalty it looked like a TB guy pulled his facemask.

[studcrackers]

alright good. no OT. it's so odd seeing how much Aguayo struggle after how badass he was in college

[bleu]

As painful as this season has been for me as a Chargers fan with all the close losses and blown games. 4 losses by 14 points, 3 after leading at the 2 minute warning and 2 blowing a 2 score lead in the 4th, if Carolina loses this game, bleu, this has to be about as painful for you. Harder in the fact you probably had huge expectations (though I had pretty high hope and expectations SD would be good), but for me, the closer losses for the most part (4 close ones as opposed to 2 for you if you lose this one).

So I definitely understand how you will feel if they lose after probably expecting to easily win this one. They are looking pretty good to have a chance to win now though. If this was the Chargers they would get force the punt, fumble the punt return and it would get returned for a td.

Incredibly, incredibly frustrating game for the Panthers. The kind of game that just leaves you shaking your head. So many stupid, inexcusable mistakes and penalties. This is a team who has all the talent in the world, and they proved that last year, but the focus and work ethic is missing right now. Too many players walking when they should run, giving up on plays early, etc. Just all around ugly. I haven't given up on this team, because they do have the talent. But if they don't get their **** together, and do it now, it's going to be a loooooong season. This one is just inexcusable.

[bwgood77]

As painful as this season has been for me as a Chargers fan with all the close losses and blown games. 4 losses by 14 points, 3 after leading at the 2 minute warning and 2 blowing a 2 score lead in the 4th, if Carolina loses this game, bleu, this has to be about as painful for you. Harder in the fact you probably had huge expectations (though I had pretty high hope and expectations SD would be good), but for me, the closer losses for the most part (4 close ones as opposed to 2 for you if you lose this one).

So I definitely understand how you will feel if they lose after probably expecting to easily win this one. They are looking pretty good to have a chance to win now though. If this was the Chargers they would get force the punt, fumble the punt return and it would get returned for a td.

Incredibly, incredibly frustrating game for the Panthers. The kind of game that just leaves you shaking your head. So many stupid, inexcusable mistakes and penalties. This is a team who has all the talent in the world, and they proved that last year, but the focus and work ethic is missing right now. Too many players walking when they should run, giving up on plays early, etc. Just all around ugly. I haven't given up on this team, because they do have the talent. But if they don't get their **** together, and do it now, it's going to be a loooooong season. This one is just inexcusable.

Yes, that game was kind of typical of a Chargers one. What is weird about the Chargers though is that they have lost their two best receivers, their two best pass catching RBs, their best corner and their best LB, all for the season, and have had a ton of OL injuries, and they STILL compete in every game.

I still hold out a little hope like you, but they have to reel out some wins, and they will be hard pressed to do so, since their next three games are home against Denver, then road games at Atlanta and Denver. Their last 8 are mostly easy except for playing you guys on the road. So they could go 6-2 or 7-1 in their last 8 if they shape up, so even if they lose 1 or 2 more before that they could conceivable finish 10-6 or 9-7 and squeeze into the playoffs but of course that is very doubtful.

They likely lose on Thursday, fire McCoy and then hopefully beat Atlanta and perhaps go on a run like KC did last year. I know that is extremely optimistic, but I am almost always optimistic until about the 4th qtr of the actual Chargers games.

[bleu]

Yes, that game was kind of typical of a Chargers one. What is weird about the Chargers though is that they have lost their two best receivers, their two best pass catching RBs, their best corner and their best LB, all for the season, and have had a ton of OL injuries, and they STILL compete in every game.

I still hold out a little hope like you, but they have to reel out some wins, and they will be hard pressed to do so, since their next three games are home against Denver, then road games at Atlanta and Denver. Their last 8 are mostly easy except for playing you guys on the road. So they could go 6-2 or 7-1 in their last 8 if they shape up, so even if they lose 1 or 2 more before that they could conceivable finish 10-6 or 9-7 and squeeze into the playoffs but of course that is very doubtful.

They likely lose on Thursday, fire McCoy and then hopefully beat Atlanta and perhaps go on a run like KC did last year. I know that is extremely optimistic, but I am almost always optimistic until about the 4th qtr of the actual Chargers games.

See, the difference is though, the Chargers actually have an excuse. Actually a bunch of excuses. The Panthers really don't. Yeah, Cam was injured for this game and yeah, I think it would have gone differently with him in. But he lost three games before this one. SD is missing a TON of key pieces and they would still easily compete with the team that was on the field tonight.

After last week's performance, I realized pretty cut and dry that this isn't the same team that was wearing the black and blue last year. It's still kind of a mystery to me why. At this point, I've still got high hopes, but my expectations are sinking more and more until I see even a glimmer of the heart and skill that they played with last year. The schedule is front loaded, but next week @ New Orleans is in large part a do or die. With a win there, they can go into the bye 2-4 and hopefully figure some things out. With a loss, I think they need to start looking to the future.

[bwgood77]

Yes, that game was kind of typical of a Chargers one. What is weird about the Chargers though is that they have lost their two best receivers, their two best pass catching RBs, their best corner and their best LB, all for the season, and have had a ton of OL injuries, and they STILL compete in every game.

I still hold out a little hope like you, but they have to reel out some wins, and they will be hard pressed to do so, since their next three games are home against Denver, then road games at Atlanta and Denver. Their last 8 are mostly easy except for playing you guys on the road. So they could go 6-2 or 7-1 in their last 8 if they shape up, so even if they lose 1 or 2 more before that they could conceivable finish 10-6 or 9-7 and squeeze into the playoffs but of course that is very doubtful.

They likely lose on Thursday, fire McCoy and then hopefully beat Atlanta and perhaps go on a run like KC did last year. I know that is extremely optimistic, but I am almost always optimistic until about the 4th qtr of the actual Chargers games.

See, the difference is though, the Chargers actually have an excuse. Actually a bunch of excuses. The Panthers really don't. Yeah, Cam was injured for this game and yeah, I think it would have gone differently with him in. But he lost three games before this one. SD is missing a TON of key pieces and they would still easily compete with the team that was on the field tonight.

After last week's performance, I realized pretty cut and dry that this isn't the same team that was wearing the black and blue last year. It's still kind of a mystery to me why. At this point, I've still got high hopes, but my expectations are sinking more and more until I see even a glimmer of the heart and skill that they played with last year. The schedule is front loaded, but next week @ New Orleans is in large part a do or die. With a win there, they can go into the bye 2-4 and hopefully figure some things out. With a loss, I think they need to start looking to the future.

Many losers of Super Bowls have hangovers. SF made the NFC Championship game twice and lost, and then made the Super Bowl and lost and suddenly were mediocre. This really happens quite often, except for the Pats. I am not sure why this is, but I think a lot of players just get deflated after that for obviously a good reason and they don't have quite as much drive as they did in seasons before when they fell short.

[NaturalBuns]

I still think panthers can turn it around.
15-1 last year they have dug themselves a huge hole though they will need to go 11-5 IMO

[Cactus Jack]

Yes, that game was kind of typical of a Chargers one. What is weird about the Chargers though is that they have lost their two best receivers, their two best pass catching RBs, their best corner and their best LB, all for the season, and have had a ton of OL injuries, and they STILL compete in every game.

I still hold out a little hope like you, but they have to reel out some wins, and they will be hard pressed to do so, since their next three games are home against Denver, then road games at Atlanta and Denver. Their last 8 are mostly easy except for playing you guys on the road. So they could go 6-2 or 7-1 in their last 8 if they shape up, so even if they lose 1 or 2 more before that they could conceivable finish 10-6 or 9-7 and squeeze into the playoffs but of course that is very doubtful.

They likely lose on Thursday, fire McCoy and then hopefully beat Atlanta and perhaps go on a run like KC did last year. I know that is extremely optimistic, but I am almost always optimistic until about the 4th qtr of the actual Chargers games.

See, the difference is though, the Chargers actually have an excuse. Actually a bunch of excuses. The Panthers really don't. Yeah, Cam was injured for this game and yeah, I think it would have gone differently with him in. But he lost three games before this one. SD is missing a TON of key pieces and they would still easily compete with the team that was on the field tonight.

After last week's performance, I realized pretty cut and dry that this isn't the same team that was wearing the black and blue last year. It's still kind of a mystery to me why. At this point, I've still got high hopes, but my expectations are sinking more and more until I see even a glimmer of the heart and skill that they played with last year. The schedule is front loaded, but next week @ New Orleans is in large part a do or die. With a win there, they can go into the bye 2-4 and hopefully figure some things out. With a loss, I think they need to start looking to the future.

Many losers of Super Bowls have hangovers. SF made the NFC Championship game twice and lost, and then made the Super Bowl and lost and suddenly were mediocre. This really happens quite often, except for the Pats. I am not sure why this is, but I think a lot of players just get deflated after that for obviously a good reason and they don't have quite as much drive as they did in seasons before when they fell short.

A hangover is far too common. I'm shocked Carolina is where they are (1-4). I thought they would take a step back, but I didn't expect this.

[OnceUponADime]

Yes, that game was kind of typical of a Chargers one. What is weird about the Chargers though is that they have lost their two best receivers, their two best pass catching RBs, their best corner and their best LB, all for the season, and have had a ton of OL injuries, and they STILL compete in every game.

I still hold out a little hope like you, but they have to reel out some wins, and they will be hard pressed to do so, since their next three games are home against Denver, then road games at Atlanta and Denver. Their last 8 are mostly easy except for playing you guys on the road. So they could go 6-2 or 7-1 in their last 8 if they shape up, so even if they lose 1 or 2 more before that they could conceivable finish 10-6 or 9-7 and squeeze into the playoffs but of course that is very doubtful.

They likely lose on Thursday, fire McCoy and then hopefully beat Atlanta and perhaps go on a run like KC did last year. I know that is extremely optimistic, but I am almost always optimistic until about the 4th qtr of the actual Chargers games.

It's because of one player. That's the only reason their not getting blown out by 20 in the first half itself.

I hope they lose Thursday so they fire McCoy but because the Chargers have worst luck ever, I'm sure they'll somehow beat Denver and then keep McCoy and lose in disappointing way for rest of the season.

Chargers have the worst ownership in the NFL. All they care about is profit and getting public funding to get stadium built. He literally cares very little about the actual football product, he's in for the sole purpose of the money he makes from the team. I absolutely despise Dean Spanos and his sons who are now running the team into the ground.

[Otis Driftwood]

Yes, that game was kind of typical of a Chargers one. What is weird about the Chargers though is that they have lost their two best receivers, their two best pass catching RBs, their best corner and their best LB, all for the season, and have had a ton of OL injuries, and they STILL compete in every game.

I still hold out a little hope like you, but they have to reel out some wins, and they will be hard pressed to do so, since their next three games are home against Denver, then road games at Atlanta and Denver. Their last 8 are mostly easy except for playing you guys on the road. So they could go 6-2 or 7-1 in their last 8 if they shape up, so even if they lose 1 or 2 more before that they could conceivable finish 10-6 or 9-7 and squeeze into the playoffs but of course that is very doubtful.

They likely lose on Thursday, fire McCoy and then hopefully beat Atlanta and perhaps go on a run like KC did last year. I know that is extremely optimistic, but I am almost always optimistic until about the 4th qtr of the actual Chargers games.

It's because of one player. That's the only reason their not getting blown out by 20 in the first half itself.

I hope they lose Thursday so they fire McCoy but because the Chargers have worst luck ever, I'm sure they'll somehow beat Denver and then keep McCoy and lose in disappointing way for rest of the season.

Chargers have the worst ownership in the NFL. All they care about is profit and getting public funding to get stadium built. He literally cares very little about the actual football product, he's in for the sole purpose of the money he makes from the team. I absolutely despise Dean Spanos and his sons who are now running the team into the ground.

I cannot imagine a worse feeling than having an owner that you know doesn't give a ish about the product on the field (or on the court or on the ice). I always felt for Cardinal fans when Bill Bidwell was running things and you know damn good and well that when this run by the Bengals ends Mike Brown will go back to being what he truly is which is a guy living off the reputation of his dad.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I still think panthers can turn it around.
15-1 last year they have dug themselves a huge hole though they will need to go 11-5 IMO

Stick a fork in Carolina. They are DONE.

[Cactus Jack]

I still think panthers can turn it around.
15-1 last year they have dug themselves a huge hole though they will need to go 11-5 IMO

Stick a fork in Carolina. They are DONE.

Idk. If they get things turned around, a wildcard might still be possible.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Yes, that game was kind of typical of a Chargers one. What is weird about the Chargers though is that they have lost their two best receivers, their two best pass catching RBs, their best corner and their best LB, all for the season, and have had a ton of OL injuries, and they STILL compete in every game.

I still hold out a little hope like you, but they have to reel out some wins, and they will be hard pressed to do so, since their next three games are home against Denver, then road games at Atlanta and Denver. Their last 8 are mostly easy except for playing you guys on the road. So they could go 6-2 or 7-1 in their last 8 if they shape up, so even if they lose 1 or 2 more before that they could conceivable finish 10-6 or 9-7 and squeeze into the playoffs but of course that is very doubtful.

They likely lose on Thursday, fire McCoy and then hopefully beat Atlanta and perhaps go on a run like KC did last year. I know that is extremely optimistic, but I am almost always optimistic until about the 4th qtr of the actual Chargers games.

See, the difference is though, the Chargers actually have an excuse. Actually a bunch of excuses. The Panthers really don't. Yeah, Cam was injured for this game and yeah, I think it would have gone differently with him in. But he lost three games before this one. SD is missing a TON of key pieces and they would still easily compete with the team that was on the field tonight.

After last week's performance, I realized pretty cut and dry that this isn't the same team that was wearing the black and blue last year. It's still kind of a mystery to me why. At this point, I've still got high hopes, but my expectations are sinking more and more until I see even a glimmer of the heart and skill that they played with last year. The schedule is front loaded, but next week @ New Orleans is in large part a do or die. With a win there, they can go into the bye 2-4 and hopefully figure some things out. With a loss, I think they need to start looking to the future.

Many losers of Super Bowls have hangovers. SF made the NFC Championship game twice and lost, and then made the Super Bowl and lost and suddenly were mediocre. This really happens quite often, except for the Pats. I am not sure why this is, but I think a lot of players just get deflated after that for obviously a good reason and they don't have quite as much drive as they did in seasons before when they fell short.

Patriots were not the only team. Cowboy's lost 1966 NFL Championship game and made it back the next year. Cowboys also lost Super Bowl V and came back and won Super bowl VI. Dolphins lost Super Bowl VI and came back next year and won Super Bowl VII.